Iraq is a good base in the middle east.
It was taken at a huge cost, but OK... here we are.
Yup, if we take Iran, we'll have 3 contiguous nations under our control, and we won't need to truck supplies into A-stan through Pakistan.
So we should kill them anyway?Good morning cultural relativism! I see some ideas thrown around here - "Is Iran Evil?" "Shouldn't we seize Church money too"?
Let me guess the speakers of these ideas are all American. You, my friends, have lost the notion of what side you're on. If you're claiming Iran - as a state entity - is not evil, you are a bunch of idiots.
The Iranian regime opposes EVERYTHING a Liberal is fond of, and yet to rally up to support them. Why? Because your anti establishment feeling towards the USA and the old Christian establishment (instinctively associated with the GOP for you, probably), as well as Israel, which is to you the ultimate expression to how the establishment fucks the poor (Palestinians). "The enemy of my enemy is my friend", right? Well, when enemy #1 is a religious dictatorship and enemy #2 is your own country, you're a short sighted idiot.
There should be NO question whether Iran is evil. You can debate whether Israel is evil nor not, and even argue that the USA is evil, but I just can't see how you can claim Iran is not evil. Their people are surely good and progressive, but they are not calling the shots.
So we should kill them anyway?
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Nope. Honestly there's no option of a forced regime change either. Just bomb their nuclear sites out of existence and let them do whatever the fuck they wish in their borders. You can't violently force people to love you, even I know that
Bomb Iran Now
But But But, the supreme Court says money is free speech, and free speech is a corner stone of our Country. We are for free speech aren't we?
And it sounds more like a property grab gone a muck to me, hopefully the courts will step in and assert due process of law before we all lose our rights also.
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Is that what you would wish for Israel also, just bomb Israeli nuclear sites and be done with it? With the rickety Dismona site that would be really bad, its a graphite reactor or the Chernoble type, one accident or malfunction that cuts the cooling water and its instant China syndrome. That will poison the environment for a huge radius around the Dismona and make it uninhabitable for thousands of years.
One has to label the SamurAchzar argument for what it is, manipulation pure plain and simple. Since Israel does not like Iran, lets trick Uncle Sucker into doing our heavy lifting for us.
As it is, I may think the Iranian agenda is problem, but I am far more convinced the Israeli agenda is evil and not conducive to any just mid east peace.
I'm sure your analogy is valid and well thought of, I just didn't understand it. You just might bomb France and Britain while you're at it. Let me help you: the idea is NOT to deprive allies from nuclear weapons, it's making sure the non-allies (not to say "enemies", as that might strike a tad too blatant to the liberals here who live in a world without enemies other than GOP) don't get them. Does this very basic evolutionary logic of self prevalence seem to work for you?
Iran should not have any nuclear weapons, just like any other Muslim country. I'm perfectly happy in a world where US is the main power and calls the shots. I'm very happy in an unbalanced world where democracy and capitalism are the main powers. I'm very happy in a world where backward Muslim countries are kept powerless, as this is why they don't threat my existence.
If history folded otherwise and USSR or the Nazis - or China - were the dominant powers, we'd not be having this discussion now - we wouldn't be having ANY discussion.
Says you!
No one should have Nukes, says I. It's not Practical, but just as Practical as your declaration. Which, I should point out, it is too late anyway.
Says you!
No one should have Nukes, says I. It's not Practical, but just as Practical as your declaration. Which, I should point out, it is too late anyway.
Actually, not so much.If you lived in Iran and saw all the people next door the Americans bombed to death who were not "government" you would have trouble seeing your own government as evil
If you were taught anything about the Americans involvement in the Iran-Iraq war then you have problems seeing who was evil and who wasn't
Funny, the Mosque I went to was telling us to return to God, rather than hate Americans. That sermon was a long time ago during the war.
Anyways, shutting down this company for sending money to Iran is interesting, but doesn't the US buy tons of Oil from Iran anyways?
It was but Cheney's been cast back to hell.Actually, not so much.
So, just for the record, do you believe that the U.S. Government is evil?
I do not want anyone who opposes my world view to have equal strength. What's the problem with that? Do you have out guns to burglars to level the playing field?
It is very practical from an operational point of view to destroy the nuclear program of Iran within 24 hours. It is not politically possible in the current climate, but that's another thing altogether.
The world should make sure Iran is NOT the next North Korea.
I think US should always have nukes, but this is because I'd always want to the US to remain the world most prominent power. I wouldn't want anyone else stepping up.
So let's say Iran gets nukes, and uses them against someone first. You understand that it will become a large glass parking lot right?