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Zorkorist

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beloved patriot = China
Wet Back = Mexico
Canadian Commies = Canada

Or some nuclear plants in Iran.

You pick.
 

iGas

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beloved patriot = China
Wet Back = Mexico
Canadian Commies = Canada

Or some nuclear plants in Iran.

You pick.
Why not bomb nucular plants in other countries as well? Specially rogue people that steals and spies on the US?
 

Zorkorist

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Why not bomb nucular plants in other countries as well? Specially rogue people that steals and spies on the US?
You stopped short of mentioning people that believe they will have 72 virgins waiting for them in heaven, after they kill an infidel or two.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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The people are supporting the government. You dont have to kill all the people. Just take out the nuclear facilities and blow up their refinery and let them kill each other. Many people in Iran are not aligned with their government. We could do to Iran what Iran does to other countries. Give arms and money to the factions that would destroy it like the Kurds and the college students. Iran is like a powder keg.

Keep in mind that when you help your enemy's enemy, that the new faction could be worse than the one in power. The USA has learned the hard way many times. One side can be worse than the other.

It is obvious that Iran is shipping arms and ammunitions to other groups like the Palestinians. Se we should start by blockading Iran as much as possible.

Isreal would probably bomb Iran if we let them. If we both attacked at the same time we could probably take out their defenses and their ability to attack Iraq. Of course then the world oil supply would be disrupted and we would pay for it financially. So we just cant win. Only thing left is to try to box them in or keep an eye on them and show the rest of the world their true intent.

If there were a poorer understanding of Iranian society I don't think I've ever seen it. Iran isn't like Iraq at all. There may be different opinions about the internal politics, but they aren't going to start shooting each other. It's not a cobbled together society. They were developing mathematics, art, and science when the Romans dancing half naked.

If Bush hadn't shot off his mouth like the fool he was, the moderates would most likely have eliminated the extremists. Nope, not content to let things work themselves out, he decided to call them evil and suddenly the pro-west people (and there were many) were shown to be fools and cast out.

So yeah, in another generation we might be back to where we were 8 years ago. Hopefully then we won't have a talking H-bomb as President.
 

Zorkorist

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Lol... are you saying that Iran isn't dominated by it's Government? That the people there won't be tortured, executed, or worse, for speaking their mind?

Both Iraq and Iran are despoted regimes, and their people are trampled.
 

iGas

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Lol... are you saying that Iran isn't dominated by it's Government? That the people there won't be tortured, executed, or worse, for speaking their mind?

Both Iraq and Iran are despoted regimes, and their people are trampled.
Wait a minute, the US government, corporations, religious zealot, and sheeple aren't a bunch of despot thieving liars, and killers?

The pot call the kettle black.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Lol... are you saying that Iran isn't dominated by it's Government? That the people there won't be tortured, executed, or worse, for speaking their mind?

Both Iraq and Iran are despoted regimes, and their people are trampled.
Because their government dominates them does not mean that the people themselves are fragmented like Iraq. It's not like the Kurds and Shias. There isn't a great centuries long division between the people, so bringing in the kurds in any discussion is completely specious.
 

Zorkorist

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What the hell does it matter how fragmented the people are when they are booted by a Government?
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Wait a minute, the US government, corporations, religious zealot, and sheeple aren't a bunch of despot thieving liars, and killers?

The pot call the kettle black.
Precisely when during the last disputed US Presidential election were the newspapers closed, the internet shut off, and citizens shot?

We have our faults, but please don't be silly.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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What the hell does it matter how fragmented the people are when they are booted by a Government?

Because at some point that government will change. It took a long time to get from taking our troops hostage to where people who wanted to peacefully approach the west were close to control. Yet it will change, and when it does it won't be the same. there won't be one faction killing another. The government is bad to be sure, but the reality of the situation isn't like Iraq at all.
 

Zorkorist

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Russia, China, changed, so you may be right, Hayabusa.

Can we please re-elect Ronald Reagan?

;)
 

piasabird

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We should drop all of their own bombs right on top of their heads. This is the fair way to handle it.
 

ElFenix

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If Bush hadn't shot off his mouth like the fool he was, the moderates would most likely have eliminated the extremists. Nope, not content to let things work themselves out, he decided to call them evil and suddenly the pro-west people (and there were many) were shown to be fools and cast out.
maybe bush's axis of evil declaration had some effect but i very much doubt it changed the course of the iran regime. the conservatives were on the move after khatami's landslide election in 2001.
 
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maybe bush's axis of evil declaration had some effect but i very much doubt it changed the course of the iran regime. the conservatives were on the move after khatami's landslide election in 2001.
It most certainly did considering they offered support beforehand.

You can't have missed that, it's IMPOSSIBLE that you missed that, it was in every single report...

It was one of the standing points before the speech, one that was presented in the UN by Powell.

Of course, it might not matter considering what you said, but then again, with fixed elections (and we are not retarded enough to not know that they have always been) what does it matter?
 

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