Breaking News -- Three Hotels in Amman, Jordan Bombed.

[jpeyton]

Originally posted by: dahunan

Originally posted by: jpeyton

Originally posted by: Braznor

Originally posted by: Aimster

Originally posted by: Braznor

Originally posted by: Aimster
This has what to do with the religion of Islam?

Last time I checked it wasn't in the Quran to go blow people up.

Another troll.

Sure, and all the Quranic verses inciting Muslims to chop off the Infidel's fingertips, Slaughter their necks were just inventions by time traveling neo-cons, right????

I'm sorry, but your sources are wrong. None of those are in the Quran. Thank you come again.

Also look up the definition of an Infidel.
Infidel does not equal non-believer.

You sir are a moron.

Lack of education? Don't worry I have plenty of trash for you to come pick up outside.

K 8:012
Set 28, Count 62 When your Lord revealed to the angels: I am with you, therefore make firm those who believe. I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them.

Do you want more???

Now don't come crying that these verses are taken out of context!!!!

You flatly denied it and I showed you proof you are lying.

Also it is funny how you frequently insult people on their education. Apparently it shows acute intolerance on your part and frankly I'am not surprised.

It was entirely relevent in the time of Mohammad. That time has long since passed.

Many of your brethren do not believe that time or society changes.. and that is what fuels extremism... MoeeeOnn does not believe that there is anything wrong with any verse in the Quran.. that they all apply today just as much as they did then.. That is the same with Sultan.. Please ask them

I'm not Muslim so I can't exactly say they are my brethren. But what exactly do you mean by "many"? Specifically, what percentage of the 1.5 billion Muslims worldwide did you poll to come to your conclusion?

*crickets*

 

[jpeyton]

Originally posted by: smack Down

Originally posted by: Aimster
This has what to do with the religion of Islam?

Last time I checked it wasn't in the Quran to go blow people up.

Another troll.

Why don't you tell use then why is it that when ever people are getting blown up mulisms tend to be involved?

You're right about that. Whether we're talking about a Palestinian suicide bomber in Israel, or a family of Iraqi civilians on the recieving end of a US munition, they DO seem to be involved.

The conflict has two sides.

I have a fun idea. Why don't you tally up your side and I'll tally up mine.

 

[smack Down]

Originally posted by: jpeyton

Originally posted by: Braznor

Originally posted by: Aimster

Originally posted by: Braznor

Originally posted by: Aimster
This has what to do with the religion of Islam?

Last time I checked it wasn't in the Quran to go blow people up.

Another troll.

Sure, and all the Quranic verses inciting Muslims to chop off the Infidel's fingertips, Slaughter their necks were just inventions by time traveling neo-cons, right????

I'm sorry, but your sources are wrong. None of those are in the Quran. Thank you come again.

Also look up the definition of an Infidel.
Infidel does not equal non-believer.

You sir are a moron.

Lack of education? Don't worry I have plenty of trash for you to come pick up outside.

K 8:012
Set 28, Count 62 When your Lord revealed to the angels: I am with you, therefore make firm those who believe. I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them.

Do you want more???

Now don't come crying that these verses are taken out of context!!!!

You flatly denied it and I showed you proof you are lying.

Also it is funny how you frequently insult people on their education. Apparently it shows acute intolerance on your part and frankly I'am not surprised.

It was entirely relevent in the time of Mohammad. That time has long since passed.

Not in the mulisim world. The only thing that has changed is better weapons.

 

[Braznor]

You made my day

 

[magomago]

Braznor, that is taking it out of context. First of all you have to realize its context in which it comes from (Btw...how come most people pick Shakir translations? I would think Yusif Ali is the most accepted)
Surah an Anfal (The spoils) was revealed directly after the Battle of Badr, when they were in the middle of a war. Where it is aimed is specifically in war time. Furthermore, much of this Surah has relevance specifically to the battle...Just reading the parts before and after show that it is addressing the scenario at the Battle of Badr. I don't want to say too much because I'm not an expert at interpretation, but this seems straight foreward

Go look at the entire section 2~ when you do that you will see what it is referring too. The way you have it quoted makes it seem like Muslims should run around karate chopping off heads
edit:
Also, Al Anfal deals with war in general....

 

[jpeyton]

Originally posted by: magomago
Braznor, that is taking it out of context. First of all you have to realize its context in which it comes from (Btw...how come most people pick Shakir translations? I would think Yusif Ali is the most accepted)
Surah an Anfal (The spoils) was revealed directly after the Battle of Badr, when they were in the middle of a war. Where it is aimed is specifically in war time. Furthermore, much of this Surah has relevance specifically to the battle...Just reading the parts before and after show that it is addressing the scenario at the Battle of Badr. I don't want to say too much because I'm not an expert at interpretation, but this seems straight foreward

Go look at the entire section 2~ when you do that you will see what it is referring too. The way you have it quoted makes it seem like Muslims should run around karate chopping off heads
edit:
Also, Al Anfal deals with war in general....

That is what most of the idiots on this forum don't realize. Islam was being attacked when the Quran was written and these texts were written in the context of war and defense of the religion.

People like Braznor do well to preach to the easily influenced. Typically those who need very little convincing in the name of ignorance and fear.

Enjoy living your lives in terror. :roll:

 

[maluckey]

If it is the caes that the Koran texts are being misrepresented and taken out of context, why is it not in the texts that you may take the texts to be anything other than as they are? The "old' ways are still the ONLY ways according to the Koran right???

The Old Testament of the Jews was revised (at least to the Christions) so to speak by the Christian Messiah. He made a Fourth Covenant, basically re-writing the laws and how the new Covenant would act to others.

Why do we see nothing that would suggest that the Koran may be modified to suit the reader such as in the New Testament of the Christions?

I'm not trolling, just seeing if there is such a passage about this.

 

[jpeyton]

Well Islam covets the Quran as the word of God; any interpretation is done in the mind of the reader, not as an appendage to the book.

 

[magomago]

Originally posted by: maluckey
If it is the caes that the Koran texts are being misrepresented and taken out of context, why is it not in the texts that you may take the texts to be anything other than as they are? The "old' ways are still the ONLY ways according to the Koran right???

The Old Testament of the Jews was revised (at least to the Christions) so to speak by the Christian Messiah. He made a Fourth Covenant, basically re-writing the laws and how the new Covenant would act to others.

Why do we see nothing that would suggest that the Koran may be modified to suit the reader such as in the New Testament of the Christions?

I'm not trolling, just seeing if there is such a passage about this.

Could you be a little more clear? MAybe its the fact its 1AM and I'm dead tired, but I'm having trouble understanding what is said...or maybe I should just sleep now

 

[maluckey]

O.K.

The New Testament of the Christians is the revision/companion to the Old Testament, and is the guideline for the Fourth Covenant with Jehova. It does supercede, when applicable, parts of the Old Testament.

Is there anything in the Koran that allows for any interpretation of the text as anything other than what is written and taught?

 

[Aegeon]

Originally posted by: Aimster
How can you tell an Israeli from a Palestinian?

You cannot tell if one is Muslim or Jew simply by looking at them unless they are dressed in their religious outfits and have the beards growing or whatever it is they are doing.

Wonder how many Jews died here vs Muslims.

I'm placing my bet on more Arab deaths.

Like I said they kill their own probably themselves too

It currently looks like they killed no Jews, but killed some top Palestinian government officials in the process!

Two high-ranking Palestinian security officials, a senior Palestinian banker and the commercial attache at the Palestinian embassy in Cairo have died in the bombings in Jordan, the Palestinian envoy to Amman said.

Major-General Bashir Nafeh, the head of military intelligence in the West Bank, and Colonel Abed Allun, a Preventive Security Forces official, were killed in the attack at the Grand Hyatt Hotel, Ambassador Attala Kheri told The AP.

Jihad Fatouh, the commercial attache at the Palestinian Embassy in Cairo, and Mosab Khorma, Deputy Chairman of Cairo-Amman Bank in the Palestinian territories, too, were killed in the three nearly simultaneous bombings on three hotels in the Jordanian capital on Wednesday night, Kheri said.

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/071F0869-5B22-41DD-AE5F-1F9D56787B82.htm

It also appears most of the casualties were at a wedding reception being held in one of the hotels. The thing is it was a Jordanian couple getting married, and the guests were almost exclusively Muslims.

Actually in alot of ways I view this as a good sign that many member of Al Queda are morons. By launching a terrorist attack in a non-occupied Muslim country and managing to mostly kill Muslims in the process, they are doing a good job of turning most of the moderate Muslim world against Al Queda.