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Breaking News...Bush in Iraq
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Lemon law
Lifer
Well this just in from yahoo news----Bush makes security assessement.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/bus..._xt7AxBjkobvhmMwqs0NUE
Now GWB further straddles the fence by suggesting that some troops withdrawals may become possible if the security situation in Iraq continues to improve.
Possibly thereby keeping Sen. Warner happier and the GOP congressional base in the fold a while longer.
From the withdraw from Iraq camp, the whole affair has got to be a disappointment because a negative Patraeus report would have given them the ammunition to say the surge has flopped. And failing a flop, the Patraeus report will become just meaningless because it answers nothing while kicking the can even further down the road. Unless the Iraqi insurgents have some preplanned offensive cooked up pre-report, the withdraw from Iraq camp will not get their post labor day present. My guess is that they won't go away but they will have to regroup and wait for more favorable times.
Leaving the only remaining questions, how much time will the Patraeus report buy GWB and how restless will the congress be? I could be wrong but I doubt congress will grant more than an additional three months funding.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/bus..._xt7AxBjkobvhmMwqs0NUE
Now GWB further straddles the fence by suggesting that some troops withdrawals may become possible if the security situation in Iraq continues to improve.
Possibly thereby keeping Sen. Warner happier and the GOP congressional base in the fold a while longer.
From the withdraw from Iraq camp, the whole affair has got to be a disappointment because a negative Patraeus report would have given them the ammunition to say the surge has flopped. And failing a flop, the Patraeus report will become just meaningless because it answers nothing while kicking the can even further down the road. Unless the Iraqi insurgents have some preplanned offensive cooked up pre-report, the withdraw from Iraq camp will not get their post labor day present. My guess is that they won't go away but they will have to regroup and wait for more favorable times.
Leaving the only remaining questions, how much time will the Patraeus report buy GWB and how restless will the congress be? I could be wrong but I doubt congress will grant more than an additional three months funding.
dmcowen674
No Lifer
Exactly, I posted that earlier in the thread.
I can post why but it would be considered a security breach.
trenchfoot
Lifer
defending bush seems to be quite the monumental task of late. i tip my hat to those who try though, but it does seem mission impossible.
everything that has ever come out of bush's mouth has been laundered and spit shined for political advantage from way back when and it's still the exact same way.
worse still, his words have been overly/overtly spun and tweaked for damage control over the last few years as his numbers started tumbling such that there is not a drop of sincerity to be found anywhere in his comments any more. it's all pure political spin at every opportunity. let the facts be either denied or grotesquely twisted to fit his agenda. sad really.
he's so overdosed and punchdrunk with his spin and madison avenue grandstanding that he and his handlers can't see how obvious it is how they are manipulating the media for pure political advantage nor do they realize how bad this makes them look.
well, i guess the one trick pony he's been riding on is limp in all four legs and needs to be put out to pasture or put out of it's misery.
georgie, enough already. watching and listening to you is like having a recurring nightmare over and over and over again.
everything that has ever come out of bush's mouth has been laundered and spit shined for political advantage from way back when and it's still the exact same way.
worse still, his words have been overly/overtly spun and tweaked for damage control over the last few years as his numbers started tumbling such that there is not a drop of sincerity to be found anywhere in his comments any more. it's all pure political spin at every opportunity. let the facts be either denied or grotesquely twisted to fit his agenda. sad really.
he's so overdosed and punchdrunk with his spin and madison avenue grandstanding that he and his handlers can't see how obvious it is how they are manipulating the media for pure political advantage nor do they realize how bad this makes them look.
well, i guess the one trick pony he's been riding on is limp in all four legs and needs to be put out to pasture or put out of it's misery.
georgie, enough already. watching and listening to you is like having a recurring nightmare over and over and over again.
LegendKiller
Lifer
How is the surge working?
Troop deaths are way up over last year. Civvy deaths are way up over last year. The other metrics, as far as progress, are falling. The politicians are looking for ways to sugarcoat this whole thing.
While I think Bush can talk to Patreus privately without flying to Iraq, the tin-foil comment is also off-base insofar as the Bush administration is hardly above the accusation.
It's not as if they have their top lawyers off writing up new novel legal findings to increase secrecy, as if they secretly planned to use GOP party e-mail addresses to evade the laws requiring tracking of e-mail by White House officials (thousands of e-mails from Karl Rove missing), etc.
My interpretation: Pabster's partisan misguided claim that the wrongs of the right are matched equally by the left.
It's just the typical denial the cultists are in, how they respond when cornered with wrongdoing by their side. All part of demonizing the 'enemy', i.e., the left.
manowar821
Diamond Member
And I hate Clinton, almost (alright, not nearly) as much as bushie and his followers. What's your point? That's she's retarded? I AGREE!
Stoneburner
Diamond Member
She never said any such thing.
LegendKiller
Lifer
How funny that kids can be so easily compared to adults supporting Bush. Little to no moral character, a lack of reasoning abilities, and prolific gullibility.
Perhaps we should take away most of their rights and responsibilities, such as drinking, driving, voting, marriage, sex with individuals of higher intellect...etc.
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