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senseamp

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Maybe, depending on how much one trusts Daniel Borochoff. Unlike other watchdog organizations like Charity Navigator (the biggest and by far the most prestigious), Charity Watch neither follows GAAP nor publishes its methodology, so like the Clinton Family Foundation itself, you are required to take its ratings on faith.


:D +1

It's a wee bit different for the Clintons though, as their foundation is essentially a black hole.

OK, so you got nothing. Good to know. Meanwhile, conservative supported charities are fleecing them like idiots and just putting donor money given for troops in their own pockets.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articl...arity-pays-off-tea-party-cronies-instead.html
 

werepossum

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OK, so you got nothing. Good to know. Meanwhile, conservative supported charities are fleecing them like idiots and just putting donor money given for troops in their own pockets.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articl...arity-pays-off-tea-party-cronies-instead.html
Okay, you've convinced me that Move America Forward is a sham charity. Charity Navigator gives it zero stars out of four.
Charity watchdogs have long criticized Move America Forward for spending too much on administrative fees and having little outside oversight. For instance, it earned zero stars out of a potential four from the rating organization Charity Navigator.
Remember when Charity Navigator said the same of the Clinton Family Foundation?

http://nypost.com/2015/04/26/charity-watchdog-clinton-foundation-a-slush-fund/
The Clinton Foundation’s finances are so messy that the nation’s most influential charity watchdog put it on its “watch list” of problematic nonprofits last month.

The Clinton family’s mega-charity took in more than $140 million in grants and pledges in 2013 but spent just $9 million on direct aid.

The group spent the bulk of its windfall on administration, travel, and salaries and bonuses, with the fattest payouts going to family friends.

On its 2013 tax forms, the most recent available, the foundation claimed it spent $30 million on payroll and employee benefits; $8.7 million in rent and office expenses; $9.2 million on “conferences, conventions and meetings”; $8 million on fundraising; and nearly $8.5 million on travel. None of the Clintons is on the payroll, but they do enjoy first-class flights paid for by the foundation.

In all, the group reported $84.6 million in “functional expenses” on its 2013 tax return and had more than $64 million left over — money the organization has said represents pledges rather than actual cash on hand.

Some of the tens of millions in administrative costs finance more than 2,000 employees, including aid workers and health professionals around the world.

But that’s still far below the 75 percent rate of spending that nonprofit experts say a good charity should spend on its mission.

Charity Navigator, which rates nonprofits, recently refused to rate the Clinton Foundation because its “atypical business model . . . doesn’t meet our criteria.”

Charity Navigator put the foundation on its “watch list,” which warns potential donors about investing in problematic charities. The 23 charities on the list include the Rev. Al Sharpton’s troubled National Action Network, which is cited for failing to pay payroll taxes for several years.

Other nonprofit experts are asking hard questions about the Clinton Foundation’s tax filings in the wake of recent reports that the Clintons traded influence for donations.

“It seems like the Clinton Foundation operates as a slush fund for the Clintons,” said Bill Allison, a senior fellow at the Sunlight Foundation, a government watchdog group where progressive Democrat and Fordham Law professor Zephyr Teachout was once an organizing director.

In July 2013, Eric Braverman, a friend of Chelsea Clinton from when they both worked at McKinsey & Co., took over as CEO of the Clinton Foundation. He took home nearly $275,000 in salary, benefits and a housing allowance from the nonprofit for just five months’ work in 2013, tax filings show. Less than a year later, his salary increased to $395,000, according to a report in Politico.

Braverman abruptly left the foundation earlier this year, after a falling-out with the old Clinton guard over reforms he wanted to impose at the charity, Politico reported. Last month, Donna Shalala, a former secretary of health and human services under President Clinton, was hired to replace Braverman.

Nine other executives received salaries over $100,000 in 2013, tax filings show.

The nonprofit came under fire last week following reports that Hillary Clinton, while she was secretary of state, signed off on a deal that allowed a Russian government enterprise to control one-fifth of all uranium producing capacity in the United States. Rosatom, the Russian company, acquired a Canadian firm controlled by Frank Giustra, a friend of Bill Clinton’s and member of the foundation board, who has pledged over $130 million to the Clinton family charity.

The group also failed to disclose millions of dollars it received in foreign donations from 2010 to 2012 and is hurriedly refiling five years’ worth of tax returns after reporters raised questions about the discrepancies in its filings last week.

An accountant for the Clinton Foundation did not return The Post’s calls seeking clarification on its expenses Friday, and a spokesperson for the group refused comment.
Of course, under intense political pressure Charity Navigator changed its rating from D to "No rating", citing the Foundation's "atypical business model". However, Charity Navigator can adequately evaluate and rate such charities as Direct Relief (provides emergency medical care, materials and grants for ongoing health care initiatives), Doctors without Borders USA (provides emergency medical care, advocacy, and volunteer services), MAP International (delivering medicine to the world's worst stricken regions), Meds and Food for Kids (fighting childhood malnutrition by delivering food to desperately poor children in Haiti), and Save the Children (direct food and medical aid, providing and training front-line medical workers, advocacy for aid, and providing and training teachers in poverty-stricken, war-torn, and other badly broken regions of the world.) These are all four star agencies operating in some of the worst, most dangerous regions in the world, yet they manage to document where their money is spent. Furthermore, when they claim salaries as program expenses, they are salaries of employees IN the regions being helped, not Friends Of Clintons who "earn" six figure salaries by flying around the world, staying in luxury hotels, giving speeches and attending conferences.

https://www.charitynavigator.org/index.cfm?bay=search.summary&orgid=3626
https://www.charitynavigator.org/index.cfm?bay=search.summary&orgid=3628
https://www.charitynavigator.org/index.cfm?bay=search.summary&orgid=4042
https://www.charitynavigator.org/index.cfm?bay=search.summary&orgid=13238
https://www.charitynavigator.org/index.cfm?bay=search.summary&orgid=4438

Yeah, clearly I've got nothing. If you want a very highly paid elite to tell other elites that it's important to feed a hungry child, donate to the Clinton Family Foundation. If you want that child fed, or housed or checked by a health care provider, look elsewhere.
 

senseamp

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Rupert Murdoch's rag doesn't like Clinton Foundation. More at 11.
Also, it's not really unusual to pay $400K to run a huge foundation. Most university presidents make far more than that. Maybe you can hire someone from McKinsey to run your company for $20K a year.
 
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Jhhnn

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Okay, you've convinced me that Move America Forward is a sham charity. Charity Navigator gives it zero stars out of four.

Remember when Charity Navigator said the same of the Clinton Family Foundation?

http://nypost.com/2015/04/26/charity-watchdog-clinton-foundation-a-slush-fund/

Of course, under intense political pressure Charity Navigator changed its rating from D to "No rating", citing the Foundation's "atypical business model". However, Charity Navigator can adequately evaluate and rate such charities as Direct Relief (provides emergency medical care, materials and grants for ongoing health care initiatives), Doctors without Borders USA (provides emergency medical care, advocacy, and volunteer services), MAP International (delivering medicine to the world's worst stricken regions), Meds and Food for Kids (fighting childhood malnutrition by delivering food to desperately poor children in Haiti), and Save the Children (direct food and medical aid, providing and training front-line medical workers, advocacy for aid, and providing and training teachers in poverty-stricken, war-torn, and other badly broken regions of the world.) These are all four star agencies operating in some of the worst, most dangerous regions in the world, yet they manage to document where their money is spent. Furthermore, when they claim salaries as program expenses, they are salaries of employees IN the regions being helped, not Friends Of Clintons who "earn" six figure salaries by flying around the world, staying in luxury hotels, giving speeches and attending conferences.

https://www.charitynavigator.org/index.cfm?bay=search.summary&orgid=3626
https://www.charitynavigator.org/index.cfm?bay=search.summary&orgid=3628
https://www.charitynavigator.org/index.cfm?bay=search.summary&orgid=4042
https://www.charitynavigator.org/index.cfm?bay=search.summary&orgid=13238
https://www.charitynavigator.org/index.cfm?bay=search.summary&orgid=4438

Yeah, clearly I've got nothing. If you want a very highly paid elite to tell other elites that it's important to feed a hungry child, donate to the Clinton Family Foundation. If you want that child fed, or housed or checked by a health care provider, look elsewhere.

Still nothing, huh?

Oh, yeh-

https://www.charitywatch.org/ratings-and-metrics/bill-hillary-chelsea-clinton-foundation/478
 

sportage

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The absurdity of it all, where Donald Trump and his skeletons in the closet are a complete unknown.
He will not tell anyone what is in his taxes, showing how "Donald" conducts his business.
People have no idea if Trump gives anything at all to any charity.
Trump and his dealing are completely unknown and kept tightly locked away in the dark, yet he dare attack the Clinton's. And others...
The heights of absurdity to say the least.

And...AND what we do know about Trump looks as fishy as fishy can be.
The American Vets had to threaten Trump over Trump's failure to follow thru with promised donations.
Trump's campaign head had and has shady ties to the Soviets and to communist leader Vladimir Putin.
And it is questionable whether Trump's very own wife followed the law concerning her own immigration.
Whether his own wife was indeed in America legally.
And then, Trump dare assault the Clinton's credibility ???

This is the art and the skills of the con artist.
Donald Trump, selling nothing, nothing at all except lies, delusion, and dishonesty.
And the people instead focus on Hillary? Go figure....

If and should Trump become president, Trump's administration would make Richard Nixon's administration took like an episode of Sesame Street.
Trump would personally profit to extents never before seen within the corruption of politics.
And unlike others such as the Clinton's who are investigated endlessly, if any individual, reporter, or congress dare challenge or question the legitimacy of a Donald Trump administration means of operation Trump would simple refuse to comply adding in response "GO F@@K YOURSELF".

As I always say, when it comes to Trump and his attacks made towards others, you have to take it all in perspective.
What is that old saying about living in a glass house and tossing stones?

If people want Trump, go ahead. Elect the con.
BUT...
DO NOT come a crying when you realize the extents of this con artist, or realize the extent that YOU personally have been conned.
You buy it, you won it, you live with it.
You are the idiot.
 
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ivwshane

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Lol! Peddle your bullshit somewhere else. Your claim has been refuted multiple times on this site. If you had an honest bone in your body you would have seen right through that nypost shit article.

Okay, you've convinced me that Move America Forward is a sham charity. Charity Navigator gives it zero stars out of four.

Remember when Charity Navigator said the same of the Clinton Family Foundation?

http://nypost.com/2015/04/26/charity-watchdog-clinton-foundation-a-slush-fund/

Of course, under intense political pressure Charity Navigator changed its rating from D to "No rating", citing the Foundation's "atypical business model". However, Charity Navigator can adequately evaluate and rate such charities as Direct Relief (provides emergency medical care, materials and grants for ongoing health care initiatives), Doctors without Borders USA (provides emergency medical care, advocacy, and volunteer services), MAP International (delivering medicine to the world's worst stricken regions), Meds and Food for Kids (fighting childhood malnutrition by delivering food to desperately poor children in Haiti), and Save the Children (direct food and medical aid, providing and training front-line medical workers, advocacy for aid, and providing and training teachers in poverty-stricken, war-torn, and other badly broken regions of the world.) These are all four star agencies operating in some of the worst, most dangerous regions in the world, yet they manage to document where their money is spent. Furthermore, when they claim salaries as program expenses, they are salaries of employees IN the regions being helped, not Friends Of Clintons who "earn" six figure salaries by flying around the world, staying in luxury hotels, giving speeches and attending conferences.

https://www.charitynavigator.org/index.cfm?bay=search.summary&orgid=3626
https://www.charitynavigator.org/index.cfm?bay=search.summary&orgid=3628
https://www.charitynavigator.org/index.cfm?bay=search.summary&orgid=4042
https://www.charitynavigator.org/index.cfm?bay=search.summary&orgid=13238
https://www.charitynavigator.org/index.cfm?bay=search.summary&orgid=4438

Yeah, clearly I've got nothing. If you want a very highly paid elite to tell other elites that it's important to feed a hungry child, donate to the Clinton Family Foundation. If you want that child fed, or housed or checked by a health care provider, look elsewhere.
 

Jaskalas

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So we're going with if more people repeat the same source it must be the truth. That's how an echo chamber works.

Looks like the AP in now in on this vast right wing conspiracy to out your criminal.

Many donors to Clinton Foundation met with her at State
More than half the people outside the government who met with Hillary Clinton while she was secretary of state gave money
But don't worry, our government did its best to serve the DNC.
Feds Stonewalled Blockbuster AP Report For 3 Years...
 

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This thread gives me hope. I think we're gonna get to the bottom of something here, and when we do, it's gonna be yuge!!! :D
 

pcgeek11

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I wonder how the Clintons went from dead broke and in debt when they left the Whitehouse to a worth of in excess of 120 million in such a short time.
 
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pcgeek11

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As I was implying Paid Corporate whores. Who's interest do you think they have in mind yours or theirs.

The Clintons are millionaires, thanks to big businesses paying them sizable sums to speak at corporate events. It's a great way to make money, but it also comes with questions about whether the Clintons are too tied to corporate cash.
 

Jhhnn

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As I was implying Paid Corporate whores. Who's interest do you think they have in mind yours or theirs.

Gawd. You act like collecting speaking fees is somehow nefarious. It's one of the purest expressions of supply & demand in a market economy.

Your hero, the Trumpster, has commanded some very, very high fees himself-

Donald Trump: Trump reportedly earned $1.5 million per speech for a series of seminars in a private online learning company’s “real estate wealth expos,” Forbes reports. That was in 2006 and 2007, though. In light of recent news, his star power may be decreasing.

http://qz.com/441327/yes-hillary-clintons-speaking-fees-are-high-but-only-compared-with-other-women/
 
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ivwshane

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As I was implying Paid Corporate whores. Who's interest do you think they have in mind yours or theirs.

We know what you were implying and its a stupid claim backed by zero facts.

How many corporate speeches have you been to? None and because your world experience is lacking in that area you let your weak mind be manipulated to thinking that something common and non trivial is actually part of some nefarious act.

Once again, ignorance trumps reality.
 

pcgeek11

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I'm sure we would all love to see your "evidence".

“It seems like the Clinton Foundation operates as a slush fund for the Clintons,” said Bill Allison, a senior fellow at the Sunlight Foundation, a government watchdog group where progressive Democrat and Fordham Law professor Zephyr Teachout was once an organizing director.

Their 2013 Tax Form 990 shows that the Clintons used the money raised by the foundation to pay for their travel expenses, which included "travel by charter or in first class."

In 2015, $1 million out of Bill and Hillary's $1,042,000 in charitable deductions was due to the Clinton Family Foundation.

"The Clintons get nothing from the foundation except free travel on chartered jets and first-class airline seats and hotel stays and, oh yes, control over a giant operating budget to steer to the charities and good causes that they prefer,"