Breaking Bad

[Patranus]

I just cant get past the part in the preview where the hit man guy told Gus something along the lines of "this has cartel written all over it".

 

[slackerinabox]

In my mind, its "walt is a pussy, doesn't know what hes doing, he falling apart, chasing fucking flies, falling off railings, lying to gus who obviously knows he is lying" and then all of a sudden, "oh wait, forget all that, walt just capped a dude in the head"

I pick dexter over breaking bad 8 times out of 10

What are you talking about? Dexter fucked up all the time, and was a straight out idiot the final season. I mean, who could have killed Trinity time and again but always found a lame way not to.

Walt's human, he's not a king pin (yet) and lost his entire life and family. His motivation is human and his effort to rebuild natural. It doesn't make him a pussy.

 

[slayer202]

What are you talking about? Dexter fucked up all the time, and was a straight out idiot the final season. I mean, who could have killed Trinity time and again but always found a lame way not to.

Walt's human, he's not a king pin (yet) and lost his entire life and family. His motivation is human and his effort to rebuild natural. It doesn't make him a pussy.

you're right, there were some stupid mistakes by dexter, but that show is much more consistent. dexter is always awkward socially, and for the most part, expert in his "work"

with walt, one week he is one way, the next week he is totally different. its poor/cheap writing IMO.

There have been some highlights this season, but a lot of it has been weak also.

walt is in the perfect situation now with gus in control and all walt needs to do it go to work, cook, and go home. he is slowly getting his family back. now he risked fucking all that up. he would be fine without jesse, and he obviously puts his family before him.

 

[kevman]

WHat is the point of comparing the two shows? Both are equally entertaining IMO

 

[Slick5150]

you're right, there were some stupid mistakes by dexter, but that show is much more consistent. dexter is always awkward socially, and for the most part, expert in his "work"

with walt, one week he is one way, the next week he is totally different. its poor/cheap writing IMO.

There have been some highlights this season, but a lot of it has been weak also.

walt is in the perfect situation now with gus in control and all walt needs to do it go to work, cook, and go home. he is slowly getting his family back. now he risked fucking all that up. he would be fine without jesse, and he obviously puts his family before him.

That's the whole POINT, it's his Walt Vs. Heisenburg struggle that he's been dealing with since Season 2. He wants to be good boy Walt and just make meth on the side, but realizes he's falling more and more into the Heisenberg persona, and afraid that he actually likes it.

 

[ScottFern]

That's the whole POINT, it's his Walt Vs. Heisenburg struggle that he's been dealing with since Season 2. He wants to be good boy Walt and just make meth on the side, but realizes he's falling more and more into the Heisenberg persona, and afraid that he actually likes it.

Walt realizes he must adapt and be more like Heisenberg because in the drug cartel world Walt would get destroyed. He realizes this and he has to be this way in order to survive in the meth underworld. But, at the same time he is attempting to maintain his civilized family life but he will soon realize its not realistic to live in both worlds without them colliding. Which is what I believe we are going to see in the finale.

my 2 cents

 

[slayer202]

That's the whole POINT, it's his Walt Vs. Heisenburg struggle that he's been dealing with since Season 2. He wants to be good boy Walt and just make meth on the side, but realizes he's falling more and more into the Heisenberg persona, and afraid that he actually likes it.

he has never shown that he likes it or enjoys it. all we see is the exact opposite, how he does NOT like it and just wants his family

Walt realizes he must adapt and be more like Heisenberg because in the drug cartel world Walt would get destroyed. He realizes this and he has to be this way in order to survive in the meth underworld. But, at the same time he is attempting to maintain his civilized family life but he will soon realize its not realistic to live in both worlds without them colliding. Which is what I believe we are going to see in the finale.

my 2 cents

why? even though he might not like it, he realizes that gus is like walt in many ways. he plays by certain rules for the most part. walt likes that. he doesn't want to be a vigilante. he can cook and be seperate from the violence and bullshit. sure, it would be a cooler show if walt became top dog, but it just hasn't been set up like that so it seems forced if thats where they are going

 

[BrokenVisage]

he has never shown that he likes it or enjoys it. all we see is the exact opposite, how he does NOT like it and just wants his family

The 'Get off my turf' line sure sounded like he was into it. Not to mention he clearly takes pride in perfecting the "art" of cooking meth and finds comfort in applying his knowledge to do so after years of teaching basic chemistry to teenagers who couldn't care less about it.

 

[slayer202]

The 'Get off my turf' line sure sounded like he was into it. Not to mention he clearly takes pride in perfecting the "art" of cooking meth and finds comfort in applying his knowledge to do so after years of teaching basic chemistry to teenagers who couldn't care less about it.

I thought of that scene, but that was back when he needed to do stuff like that. he needed his own turf to succeed. now, gus handles that and walt has an easy job

 

[ScottFern]

he has never shown that he likes it or enjoys it. all we see is the exact opposite, how he does NOT like it and just wants his family





why? even though he might not like it, he realizes that gus is like walt in many ways. he plays by certain rules for the most part. walt likes that. he doesn't want to be a vigilante. he can cook and be seperate from the violence and bullshit. sure, it would be a cooler show if walt became top dog, but it just hasn't been set up like that so it seems forced if thats where they are going

If you take last week's episode as an example he felt incredibly guilty about Jessie getting into trouble with Gus and feels in some way he is responsible for Jessie and not to mention Jessie is barely an adult without any real parents so Walt has to take care of him in some ways like he is his pseudo-son even if he doesn't act like it.

I don't think Walt is being reckless...he is just protecting the people he cares about at all costs. Its over-simplistic to say Walt can just go to work everyday with blinders on and cook meth while his partner self destructs. Maybe its Walt's parenting instinct or just his conscience but he takes care of his own.

 

[slackerinabox]

you're right, there were some stupid mistakes by dexter, but that show is much more consistent. dexter is always awkward socially, and for the most part, expert in his "work"

with walt, one week he is one way, the next week he is totally different. its poor/cheap writing IMO.

There have been some highlights this season, but a lot of it has been weak also.

walt is in the perfect situation now with gus in control and all walt needs to do it go to work, cook, and go home. he is slowly getting his family back. now he risked fucking all that up. he would be fine without jesse, and he obviously puts his family before him.

Jesse was his only family after his own wife abandoned him. They have a pretty complex relationship - a father/son dynamic that's more "real" than his relationship with his own son (especially when his wife neutered him from being a father, not allowing him to see his own son).

*FAMILY* is of utmost importance to Walt - he washed cars for his family, he made meth for his family. He may not admit it with words, but action wise - Jesse is family. The Jane/Her father relationship was a warning to Walt - be there for his son at any cost, or he will lose him. The added guilt of killing Jane through inaction is just the perfect ingredient for guilt/protection based recklessness. Yes, some of his actions are reckless - but love makes you reckless. The fly episode, as dull as it was, spells out that man love.. hah.. It's actually a sweet, unique relationship..

And Dexter being an expert at anything - by season 3 I doubt he could tie his shoes without doing a narration about how tying shoes reminds him of his dark demon, or master, or whatever. It just got so heavy handed and his "genius" spoken not shown.

 

[slackerinabox]

THERE'S A NEW EPISODE NEXT WEEK, "HALF MEASURE" WAS NOT THE FINALE!!

http://www.amctv.com/videos/breaking-bad/?bcpid=9787693001&bclid=50629287001&bctid=88281132001

 

[BrokenVisage]

THERE'S A NEW EPISODE NEXT WEEK, "HALF MEASURE" WAS NOT THE FINALE!!

http://www.amctv.com/videos/breaking-bad/?bcpid=9787693001&bclid=50629287001&bctid=88281132001

"Everybody knows this" has never been more applicable than it is here. You seriously thought 'Half Measures' was the finale? Christ, right after "Run!" they even say "Stay turned for scenes from the next episode" or something to that effect. I'm glad you're happy there's 1 more to go, we all are, but it's hasn't exactly been a secret.

 

[AdamK47]

He moved the gun over. I don't think he shot him.

 

[Slick5150]

He moved the gun over. I don't think he shot him.

I agree. I think he's going to kidnap him or whatever so they'll think he either killed him or have him somewhere, and still can't kill Walt.

Awesome finale in any case.

 

[jme5343]

The crappy part is now that we have to wait

Good ep, though. I <3 this show.

 

[jme5343]

Also: I hope Rubicon is just a modicum as interesting. I need a good summer diversion.

 

[nageov3t]

I got really excited when Breaking Bad showed up as 2 hours on my DVR... and I was so pissed when I realized that it wasn't that I refused to even think about watching Rubicon.

I call shenanigans.

 

[oznerol]

These fuckers tricked me into thinking the finale was 2 hours long.

My DVR has "Breaking Bad" from 10-11:47. Apparently they included the Rubicon "preview".

Whatever. Incredible.

 

[Slick5150]

Yeah, people got all excited last week when the new DVR schedules downloaded and Breaking Bad showed up as 1:47 minutes long. AMC released something the next day saying that was an error and the last 47 minutes were Rubicon.

Didn't watch Rubicon, though it does look somewhat interesting anyway.

 

[Balt]

VG: Gotcha. That&#8217;s interesting, because I&#8217;m hearing that from some folks, that question. To me, for what it&#8217;s worth, it&#8217;s not actually meant to be ambiguous. It&#8217;s meant to be, &#8220;Oh my god, Jesse shot poor Gale.&#8221; But I&#8217;m realizing now that when people see the camera come dollying around so it&#8217;s looking down the barrel of the gun, some are reading that as maybe he&#8217;s changing his point of aim. But that&#8217;s not what we intended. Apparently it&#8217;s not as clear as I thought it would be.

From the mouth of Vince Gilligan himself. Gale is gone, folks.

 

[MiniDoom]

badass!

 

[BrokenVisage]

I think he killed him, hence the 'full measure' episode title. He knew what Walt did for him and he can only guess they killed him now so this would be the one way to avenage him or finally do something good for him if he did survive. Plus he could have thought with both of them dead he'd be the only one to carry on the formula, so that's colateral against being killed. Great episode overall, the cartel thing didn't fit but I'm guessing it sets up something in the future. Speaking of which, they finally made it official and renewed it for season 4. Big surprise!

http://tvbythenumbers.com/2010/06/13/breaking-bad-renewed-by-amc-for-a-fourth-season/53971

 

[Patranus]

Yeah, people got all excited last week when the new DVR schedules downloaded and Breaking Bad showed up as 1:47 minutes long. AMC released something the next day saying that was an error and the last 47 minutes were Rubicon.

Didn't watch Rubicon, though it does look somewhat interesting anyway.

What a way to get people to watch your new show.

Was it *really* a mistake?

 

[pyonir]

I hate when short season shows end like that. Rescue Me and The Shield would do the same thing...then you have to wait 9 months for the next season (assuming it starts on time again).

My favorite part of the finale is when Mike had his gun on Walt and as Walt was telling him the address of Gale...Mike's face changed...great moment.