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coldmeat

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Quick question. Walt was offered $3mil for 3 months of work from Gus right? This deal didn't include Gabe, so Gabe's deal must have been separate. When Walt wanted to get Jesse in, he had to get Gabe fired, and split his $3mil 50/50. Why didn't Jesse just get Gabe's money?
 

Mike Gayner

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Quick question. Walt was offered $3mil for 3 months of work from Gus right? This deal didn't include Gabe, so Gabe's deal must have been separate. When Walt wanted to get Jesse in, he had to get Gabe fired, and split his $3mil 50/50. Why didn't Jesse just get Gabe's money?

Walt is just an contractor. His decision to get rid of Gale and bring in Jesse is a private arrangement - his employer didn't even want him to do it. There's no way they're going to help him fund it. Walk isn't privy to his employer's arrangement with Gale, and had no discretion over his pay.
 

daw123

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The latest episode was very disappointing. Surely it did not necessitate a 45 minute episode to show that Walt is feeling guilty and is losing the plot.
 
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GagHalfrunt

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The latest episode was very disappointing. Surely it did not necessitate a 45 minute episode to show that Walt is feeling guilty and is losing the plot.


I kept waiting for Walt to crack and spill that he let Jane die. What a waste of an episode, they could have handled the whole crisis in 20 minutes and then done something else. Season 3, episode 10, I guess they were due to have at least one stinker eventually.
 

bommy261

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i thought it was the worst episode of the whole series. it did a good job of setting up walt progressively loosing his mind however if they decide to go that direction.

other than that, HUGE fan of the series. can't decide whether i like this show or Dexter more.. tough call.
 

TwiceOver

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God that episode was painful. I mean they had some seriously bad episodes this season but none that I just wanted to stop watching. This episode really soured my thoughts on the show in general.
 

ScottFern

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God that episode was painful. I mean they had some seriously bad episodes this season but none that I just wanted to stop watching. This episode really soured my thoughts on the show in general.

I think I heard they have different writers for each episode? It's almost like they used a jr. writer and this was his first attempt.
 
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I think I heard they have different writers for each episode? It's almost like they used a jr. writer and this was his first attempt.

The complete opposite is true- Vince Gillian (the creator of the show) wrote this episode and a Hollywood director (of the very good Brick and the OK Brothers Bloom) directed it. I understand why the episode was disliked, but it was a deliberate change of pace and not a mistake. Remember - the episode where Hank takes out the Twins had more action than your usual season finale, and we're only half way in. They needed to slow things wayyy down.
 

gaidensensei

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I think it's just a filler ep for future things to come.. hopefully.

It was the same with the beginning of season 3, just not that terribly slow.
Then the whole hank and twin thing, boom!

I almost thought Walt was going to leak out the Jane bit but seems like he didn't.

And then the last minute part about him telling Jesse about taking the meth.. Foreshadowing?
 

Slick5150

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I liked how it ended. Walt and Jesse haven't gotten along at all for a long time, and this episode brought them back together, highlighted by Jesse taking Walt into the break room to sleep, taking his shoes off for him, and closing the door so he wouldn't wake him up. Then, right at the end, the meth and greed tear them back apart with Walt bringing up the missing Meth, obviously knowing Jesse is taking it, and Jesse being pissed about the whole thing.

3 episodes left this season, we'll see where it goes.
 

slayer202

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I really didn't like that episode. Just watched it, very dissapointed. I really like the show overall, but it seems like Vince Gilligan is getting wackier by the minute. I don't like his style
 

Mike Gayner

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Will people please stop calling the Marco cousins twins? There is an obvious age difference between them as children, and they aren't brothers, they're cousins.
 

Kev

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I thought it was an ok episode. The beginning of it really annoyed me, with walt acting like a bafoon trying to kill the fly. It just didn't fit with his character at all. He is not Curly from the 3 stooges.
 

slayer202

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I thought it was an ok episode. The beginning of it really annoyed me, with walt acting like a bafoon trying to kill the fly. It just didn't fit with his character at all. He is not Curly from the 3 stooges.

the people in charge of the show really seem to have no idea how real people act, it is really distracting sometimes
 

DayLaPaul

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Will people please stop calling the Marco cousins twins? There is an obvious age difference between them as children, and they aren't brothers, they're cousins.

If you rewatch the beginning of episode 7 you will clearly see they are brothers. They are Tuco's cousins. Not each others.
 

BrokenVisage

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Finally caught up! Another great season so far but after how good the 2nd one was I expected a bit of a letdown.

As for the latest episode I agree it wasn't all that good, but it had some interesting non-fly things going for it. For instance you didn't know if Walt was going to tell the truth about Jane to Jesse when he was on the verge of passing out. And of course he confirmed what we all knew, that he wanted to die and did all this thinking there's no risk because he was months away from death anyway. But what I liked most about it was him opening up to Jesse about not knowing how to explain what he's doing to Skyler. Now that she knows what's going on it should be easy for him to let her know why he's doing this. He tried standing in front of her with all the money and explaining what it could be used for, but he's still not telling her why he did it. It looks like she's figured it out for herself though and now that the money can be used to help Hank she might be more in favor of it.

Conversely, the episode before this last one was easily the best of the season. I loved the opening faux Los Pollos commercial and how it rolled into showing how they transport the meth to all the Pollos locations. Also the lies Skyler tells Marie about Walt to explain the money/his behavior at the end of the episode was pretty powerful, you even think she's going to hug him at the end for a second. But more importantly it reinforced Jesse's recklessness and touched on the fact that he doesn't even have a plan for his money and is basically begging to be caught. Not to mention we now know Gus is planning on taking over the cartels and Walt knows it but doesn't seem to care, in fact he respects him for it. Skyler basically dumping Ted at the doorstep was pretty significant too, she's still a bitch for sleeping with him just to spite Walt though.
 
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jme5343

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Wow, surprised there are no comments about last night's show. I enjoyed it, a little more development, a little more connection between everything that's happening.

So, for the chicken man's supper with Walt, is he talking about Jesse?

And maybe I'm warming up to Skyler a little :)
 

GagHalfrunt

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So, for the chicken man's supper with Walt, is he talking about Jesse?

And maybe I'm warming up to Skyler a little :)

I think Gus was talking to Walt about the money laundering. The comment that anyone can be poor, but you have to learn to be rich seemed to point in that direction. He wanted to make sure Walt was being safe in how he handled his new wealth. Although, in retrospect the last thing Gus said was about not making the same mistake twice. Thinking about just that line it was very likely about Jesse.

And yeah, this was the first episode where I didn't want to smack Skylar. So I guess that's the new direction the show will take. Instead of a divorce they're going to reconcile and she'll come into the business as the money person.

I'm getting more interested in Jesse after this episode, I can't figure out where they're going with him. Him hooking up with the mom of the kid that whacked Combo was pretty strange and it seemed way too coincidental to be plausible, but the writers seem to like those giant leaps of logic. So what's Jesse going to do? Is he going to get revenge for that gang killing his friend and try to retake that turf?
 
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BrokenVisage

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I think Gus was talking to Walt about the money laundering. The comment that anyone can be poor, but you have to learn to be rich seemed to point in that direction. He wanted to make sure Walt was being safe in how he handled his new wealth. Although, in retrospect the last thing Gus said was about not making the same mistake twice. Thinking about just that line it was very likely about Jesse.

I thought he was talking about Jesse too at first, but if you remember from Season 2 Gus tells him "You can never trust a drug addict" and Jesse isn't addicted anymore. Whether or not Gus knows that can be speculated, but I'm not sure what he could be referring to if not Jesse. I mean Walt made a bunch of mistakes but most of them were before meeting Gus, now things have calmed down even though Hank was shot and the cartel Gus is after looks to be in trouble. Anyone can see that Gus knows Jesse is the biggest liability to his operation, especially if he knows Jesse was trying to skim meth to sell on his own. I think the writers are hiding something that might be brought out via flashback in the first couple of minutes in one of the last 2 shows.

And yeah, this was the first episode where I didn't want to smack Skylar. So I guess that's the new direction the show will take. Instead of a divorce they're going to reconcile and she'll come into the business as the money person.

The story had to play out like this, afterall Walt's main motivation for doing this is for his family, plus it's almost a sure bet that Skylar will have something to do with how the money is laundered now that she's involved. My guess is she'll use her job at Benake to launder the money, the fact that she saw what Tom was doing and called him on it makes me think she can do this and he'll have to play ball if he ever finds out because she can just blackmail him. Aside from that she can just lay on the charm to throw him off the trail. I never hated Skylar as much as others do (aside from the infidelity-out-of-spite BS) because looking at all this from her POV she was helpless and didn't have many options but to be a bitch to Walt for lying/deceiving her after the first 2 seasons. But I think she finally understands what he did and why he did it now even though Walt could never find the right words and she's willing to forgive him, but we'll see.

I'm getting more interested in Jesse after this episode, I can't figure out where they're going with him. Him hooking up with the mom of the kid that whacked Combo was pretty strange and it seemed way too coincidental to be plausible, but the writers seem to like those giant leaps of logic. So what's Jesse going to do? Is he going to get revenge for that gang killing his friend and try to retake that turf?

As usual Jesse is the wildcard in all this. Kinda ironic he's in a a reverse relationship compared to Jane where he was addicted and got her using again to be with him. Now he's the one who's clean and she's obviously looking to blow off rehabing and use again, which might have worked fine until he found out she has a kid, and we all know Jesse has a soft spot for kids from the junkie/ATM episode in Season 2. So now he's in a moral dilemma, knowing what he did to Jane could happen again here, plus he might have a relapse and start using again too if things go further. But tying the kid Thomas into this kind of throws a monkey wrech into it all. If he decides Combo being killed caused everything around him to crash, including Jane dying, then no doubt I think he'll be out for revenge. The question is who and how, and will he tell Walt before doing anything.
 

slayer202

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I liked the last episode. Bob Odenkirk as Saul might be my favorite character.

One thing I didn't like was how walt was careful not to discuss jessie stealing product, but dumb enough to go crazy over a stupid fly, lie to gus about not working, who his brother in law was etc etc. the characters are all over the place