Breaking Bad Season 5 - Official Discussion Thread

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Kev

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Regarding the pants...

Ozymandias

I met a traveller from an antique land
Who said: Two vast and trunkless legs of stone
Stand in the desert. Near them, on the sand,
Half sunk, a shattered visage lies, whose frown,
And wrinkled lip, and sneer of cold command,
Tell that its sculptor well those passions read
Which yet survive, stamped on these lifeless things,
The hand that mocked them and the heart that fed:
And on the pedestal these words appear:
"My name is Ozymandias, king of kings:
Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!"
Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare
The lone and level sands stretch far away.


This show is brilliant
 

purbeast0

No Lifer
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were those his pants from his first cook out there with jessie? in that opening scene he wasn't wearing any pants.
 

Gibsons

Lifer
Aug 14, 2001
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Regarding the pants...

Ozymandias

I met a traveller from an antique land
Who said: Two vast and trunkless legs of stone
Stand in the desert. Near them, on the sand,
Half sunk, a shattered visage lies, whose frown,
And wrinkled lip, and sneer of cold command,
Tell that its sculptor well those passions read
Which yet survive, stamped on these lifeless things,
The hand that mocked them and the heart that fed:
And on the pedestal these words appear:
"My name is Ozymandias, king of kings:
Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!"
Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare
The lone and level sands stretch far away.


This show is brilliant

The shattered visage lying on the ground is seen a few posts up as well.

Amazing.

were those his pants from his first cook out there with jessie? in that opening scene he wasn't wearing any pants.

Have to be, don't they? Iirc, they showed them blowing away in that ep.
 

Exophase

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Apr 19, 2012
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I'm a little disappointed, starting near the end of the last episode.

Walt should have manned up, called in the cavalry, and let them take out Hank, Gomez and Jessie in one fell swoop.

His money would have been safe, Hank would have never made that call to Marie, and life would more/less go back to normal.

But now he has no family, a fraction of his money, and a few dead bodies on his collar. I hope the finale isn't some suicide by cop BS. I already know rescuing Jessie is coming up, which is a shame, since he was the root of all of Walt's troubles.

Walt called as soon as he realized Jesse was coming with reinforcements. Jack and his crew got there as quickly as they could, meaning they would have gotten there after Hank called Marie regardless of what Walt's intentions were.

Then if Walt just quietly let Jack kill Hank, Jesse and Gomez like you said Jack would have probably made him go back and cook for him right then, since he not only fulfilled the hit on Jesse but also saved Walt's life. I don't know what complications this would have made for Walt (not so sure if they'd let him go after just one cook now either) but I don't think it'd have been better for him. The way it happened he has only a fraction of his money but Jack feels sorry for him and is willing to let him go without any cooks, also feeling good because of all the money he took.

Whenever Walt did get back home I don't see why he would have acted any differently than he did, which would have had the same effect. He was desperate to get the family out of there because he knows with Hank and Gomez missing it's only a matter of time before the DEA picks up on it, plus who knows what trail he left (Walt probably doesn't realize the extent to which Hank was acting on his own here)

I don't think anything would have worked out better for Walt here, except living with even more guilt that he did nothing to try to save Hank. He'd have more money but it's meaningless at this point.
 
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It may be premature to rule BB the greatest episodic TV drama of all time, though I tend to think it is, but I don't see how we can't all agree this is the greatest final season of all time. Ozymandias was more consistently jaw-dropping than anything I have ever seen on TV. I am leaning toward thinking it was the best episode of any TV show I've ever seen.
 

Brigandier

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Feb 12, 2008
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It may be premature to rule BB the greatest episodic TV drama of all time, though I tend to think it is, but I don't see how we can't all agree this is the greatest final season of all time. Ozymandias was more consistently jaw-dropping than anything I have ever seen on TV. I am leaning toward thinking it was the best episode of any TV show I've ever seen.

Why is that? With only a couple episodes left, there really is nothing they can do to stop BB from being the GOAT.
 

Brigandier

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Feb 12, 2008
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Hal wakes up, turns to Lois, and says "I dreamed I was a chemistry teacher..." :awe:

Still wouldn't ruin the show, they can have Hal jumping over sand sharks for all I care. BB has given me the most enjoyment out of any TV show I've seen, and any fictional endeavor since I saw Star Wars when I was 8.
 
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Why is that? With only a couple episodes left, there really is nothing they can do to stop BB from being the GOAT.

I think we need the benefit of a little time and hindsight before reaching that conclusion, to see where it fits in the history of other, similar shows. I will say that for my personal sensibilities, there has never been another show that combined BB's blend of incredibly smart, clever writing, great acting, inventive cinematography, sense of humor . . . I could go on and on.

I think, as Chuck Klosterman wrote - http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/6763000/bad-decisions - that Breaking Bad's core concept of being about a character's change is fundamentally different from, and more compelling than, the way any other show has ever been conceived, particularly since it makes later episodes intrinsically darker and more exciting than earlier ones. Obviously last night's took that to its logical extreme - I have just never seen anything like that, and certainly not on TV.
 

purbeast0

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Sep 13, 2001
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so if todd's uncles crew now has 69 million dollars, which is more than enough for anyone to live the rest of their lives doing whatever they want pretty much, why do they still want to be in the meth business and force jessie to cook?
 

Gibsons

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so if todd's uncles crew now has 69 million dollars, which is more than enough for anyone to live the rest of their lives doing whatever they want pretty much, why do they still want to be in the meth business and force jessie to cook?

Todd wants to hook up with Lydia. Jack might not know what Todd's doing.
 

OCGuy

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Jul 12, 2000
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so if todd's uncles crew now has 69 million dollars, which is more than enough for anyone to live the rest of their lives doing whatever they want pretty much, why do they still want to be in the meth business and force jessie to cook?

That is one slight gap in the story line.

They didn't have time to really develop the Neo-Nazi story line. I'm surprised they kept the episode length at around 60 min. The last 8 episodes easily could have done what SoA on FX does and go 1:30.

I think artificially restraining such awesome writing and directing is something that should not happen to art...and BB is art.