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Tweak155

Tweak155

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RavenSEAL said:
I simply gave my opinion, I'm not holding a gun to the guy's head. Get over yourself.
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I think the point he's making is your only defense is budget, where the i3 is just as cheap so let's revert to the numbers for performance, where your setup loses, yet you keep defending it. His assumption is because you are die hard AMD.

Really, this is what it appears to be. So it is beyond just giving opinion, it is forcing opinion at this point, because there is no fact.

Either come up with something else that justifies the AMD given the evidence or an alternate solution that fits the budget, or leave it alone.

My suggestion:

Find some decent used parts on the FS/FT and get a new case / cheap new parts where they fit. You can probably easily find an excellent mobo / cpu / ram combo in the FS / FT for cheap. Sometimes there are full systems where you don't have to do a thing - that is what I did last time. Got a 25" monitor, i7 920, 6gb triple channel, blu ray, SSD & 5770 video card ~1 year ago for $850 shipped. Was nearly top of the line back then minus the video card.

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And as I typed this response, you came up with something. Thank you.
 
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AyashiKaibutsu

AyashiKaibutsu

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RavenSEAL

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Tweak155 said:
I think the point he's making is your only defense is budget, where the i3 is just as cheap so let's revert to the numbers for performance, where your setup loses, yet you keep defending it. His assumption is because you are die hard AMD.

Really, this is what it appears to be. So it is beyond just giving opinion, it is forcing opinion at this point, because there is no fact.

Either come up with something else that justifies the AMD given the evidence or an alternate solution that fits the budget, or leave it alone.
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Read above, sorry for having a job to be busy in :rolleyes:
 
AyashiKaibutsu

AyashiKaibutsu

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RavenSEAL said:
No, you didn't, you went to newegg and linked an overpriced pre-built with a sub par, low end GPU meant to be used for Bluray.

Oh yeah, and you forgot the monitor, gf.
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What the hell are you talking about? Re-read the thread. I posted a motherboard and processor and he could use the rest of the parts you suggested.
 
Bateluer

Bateluer

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RavenSEAL said:
Again, it's from the logical standpoint that:

A) He's on a budget
B)The HD6850 should Hybrid XFIRE with the onchip GPU.

So at the end of the day, its either i3+6770 or A8 w/HD6530+HD6850
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You linked to an A6, not an A8. I have not seen any benchmarks of the A6, but since an i3 2100 outperforms and A8, I don't expect the A6 to be worth while.

RavenSEAL said:
The guy simply wants to play TOR and AMD offers the best graphical solution, there is really nothing else to it.
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AMD does, and if the OP wanted to stay with an integrated video solution, then Llano might have been worth it. But he wants to play TOR, which is going to need more GPU power than the IGP in any Llano CPU. The Intel HD2000 in the i3 2100 sucks major balls, but he's not going to be using the IGP. A Sandy Bridge CPU and a discrete card is the better combo and won't break his budget either.

andrewboon said:
Don't I need a disk drive or optical drive or whatever it's called to install windows and put disks into?
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Yes, but they're all pretty much the same for the most part. The generic ones usually run ~20 dollars, plus or minus a few bucks. Newegg has some Lite-On models for 18 dollars and free shipping. There won't be a lot of back and forth debate on optical drives. :p
 
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RavenSEAL

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Bateluer said:
AMD does, and if the OP wanted to stay with an integrated video solution, then Llano might have been worth it. But he wants to play TOR, which is going to need more GPU power than the IGP in any Llano CPU. The Intel HD2000 in the i3 2100 sucks major balls, but he's not going to be using the IGP. A Sandy Bridge CPU and a discrete card is the better combo and won't break his budget either.
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Again, the IGP xFires with the HD6850 I linked and the build stays UNDER $600 WITH THE MONITOR. It's not about performance as much as it is budget. If the guy had $1000, i'd have him firing up GTX570s and 2600Ks all over the place.
 
Red Hawk

Red Hawk

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RavenSEAL said:
Again, it's from the logical standpoint that:

A) He's on a budget
B)The HD6850 should Hybrid XFIRE with the onchip GPU.

So at the end of the day, its either i3+6770 or A8 w/HD6530+HD6850
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Hybrid XFire only works with DirectX 11 games (and at launch many DX11 games didn't even work with it. Not sure what the situation is now). AFAIK The Old Republic isn't a DX 11 game.
 
NoSoup4You

NoSoup4You

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He needs to purchase an installation of Windows as well... Generally speaking, building your own pc is only cheaper when you're ready to upgrade it a couple years down the line. That's when the cost savings become immense.

Also, with hard-drives at their current prices and new video cards being released soon, now's an especially bad time to build a pc. Although you could argue prices on RAM have never been better.
 
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