Brand new desktop for SWTOR

[AyashiKaibutsu]

Here is the best I could do with your budget, the hard drive prices are hurting it, but TOR will benefit A LOT from an SSD.



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That hard drive isn't big enough for windows + swtor. I haven't played it myself, but a friend in the beta said it was 40+ GB.

 

[RavenSEAL]

Thanks for helping me. What is thermal paste for?

Spreading heat from the CPU to it's cooler.

Watch these:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPIXAtNGGCw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_56kyib-Ls
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxaVBsXEiok

 

[RavenSEAL]

That hard drive isn't big enough for windows + swtor. I haven't played it myself, but a friend in the beta said it was 40+ GB.

I find that hard to believe...

Link...?

 

[andrewboon]

That hard drive isn't big enough for windows + swtor. I haven't played it myself, but a friend in the beta said it was 40+ GB.

Yea, I played the Beta and it took forever to download. It is definitely over 40 GB

 

[andrewboon]

40GB MMO? Really?

Is all that you posted really all I need to build my own PC? Also, I have never built a PC and I have no idea how to. The only thing I have done is upgraded the RAM on an old PC I used to have.

edit : oops just saw the vids you posted, will watch.

 

[RavenSEAL]

Yea, I played the Beta and it took forever to download. It is definitely over 40 GB

Buy this NOW and forget about the SSD.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-Western...403?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_2&hash=item231631a42b

Not kidding, lol.

 

[M0oG0oGaiPan]

You might want to wait a couple weeks for the Black Friday/Cyber Monday deals. I picked up most of my stuff for a great price last year around this time. Newegg had a big deal on parts.

Also, you have a lot more options if you're located near a Fry's or Microcenter. There's a MC about an hour away and they have the best deals on processers.

 

[RavenSEAL]

You might want to wait a couple weeks for the Black Friday/Cyber Monday deals. I picked up most of my stuff for a great price last year around this time. Newegg had a big deal on parts.

Also, you have a lot more options if you're located near a Fry's or Microcenter. There's a MC about an hour away and they have the best deals on processers.

He might be able to chip a few parts for cheap, but hard drives isn't one of them.

Only thing I can consistently think of where he could save money is a monitor and maybe the video card.

 

[Bateluer]

That leaves 150 to spend on a video card, but I also need to buy a computer case, power supply, and all that. This is a BRAND new desktop. I am starting from nothing.

The DIY kit I linked to included a case and power supply, but no monitor.

6-cores vs 4 cores in budget gaming is better, specially when you can't upgrade every 6 months.

OP, i'm working on it.

The SnB CPUs best even the Phenom II X6s and Bulldozer 8 cores. Even the lowly Core i3 21xx outperform the X6s, so you're statement doesn't stand up. TOR isn't going to make much use of a 6 core system to begin with, and going with a CPU thats 1)obsolete, and 2)was outperformed its entire market life, and 3)a CPU that gets beaten by a low end CPU isn't a good buy.

I also disagree with the choice of an SSD. Load times will be decreased, but once the game is started, its irrelevant. At least, that's been the case with all games up to this point. And with TOR allegedly taking 40GB, and Windows 7 taking ~15GB, you're going to need to spend much more on storage than you would with a traditional hard drive. You'll get more bang for the money with a better video card and CPU than an SSD. And I'd expect that there will be many expansions, DLC, and patches for TOR that WILL eat up more space.

To the OP, building a PC from scratch isn't difficult at all, so long as you can follow simple instructions and match up a shape to a hole.

But, I would wait until AFTER the game officially ships before making any purchases. You always want to know how hardware performs on a title before you spend money on hardware. Put off buying new parts until Christmas or New Years, the game will be out by then and you could potentially take advantage of holiday sales.

 

[RavenSEAL]

The DIY kit I linked to included a case and power supply, but no monitor.



The SnB CPUs best even the Phenom II X6s and Bulldozer 8 cores. Even the lowly Core i3 21xx outperform the X6s, so you're statement doesn't stand up. TOR isn't going to make much use of a 6 core system to begin with, and going with a CPU thats 1)obsolete, and 2)was outperformed its entire market life, and 3)a CPU that gets beaten by a low end CPU isn't a good buy.

I also disagree with the choice of an SSD. Load times will be decreased, but once the game is started, its irrelevant. At least, that's been the case with all games up to this point. And with TOR allegedly taking 40GB, and Windows 7 taking ~15GB, you're going to need to spend much more on storage than you would with a traditional hard drive. You'll get more bang for the money with a better video card and CPU than an SSD. And I'd expect that there will be many expansions, DLC, and patches for TOR that WILL eat up more space.

To the OP, building a PC from scratch isn't difficult at all, so long as you can follow simple instructions and match up a shape to a hole.

But, I would wait until AFTER the game officially ships before making any purchases. You always want to know how hardware performs on a title before you spend money on hardware. Put off buying new parts until Christmas or New Years, the game will be out by then and you could potentially take advantage of holiday sales.

Which is why I changed it to Llano. Llano combined with an HD 6850 will give him a hell of a lot better graphical performance than a 2500k with an HD6770.

Also, SSD was just thought, which is the reason i linked the hard drive on eBay.

EDIT:Before anyone derps, its called HybridXFIRE.

 

[AyashiKaibutsu]

Am I missing something? It seems the i3 2100 beats the amd processor in every game listed almost doubling it in many cases. http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/403?vs=289

Also the retail heatsink will come with paste or pads. When you're going for cheap maxing out your cooling isn't a top priority (which there's much more significant ways of doing it than with retail paste)

 

[RavenSEAL]

Am I missing something? It seems the i3 2100 beats the amd processor in every game listed almost doubling it in many cases. http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/403?vs=289

Also the retail heatsink will come with paste or pads. When you're going for cheap maxing out your cooling isn't a top priority (which there's much more significant ways of doing it than with retail paste)

Again, it's from the logical standpoint that:

A) He's on a budget
B)The HD6850 should Hybrid XFIRE with the onchip GPU.

So at the end of the day, its either i3+6770 or A8 w/HD6530+HD6850

 

[AyashiKaibutsu]

Again, it's from the logical standpoint that:

A) He's in a budget
B)The HD6850 should Hybrid XFIRE with the onchip GPU.

I highly doubt hybrid xfire is worth the loss on the cpu side. The i3 2100 costs 5 dollars more for 40-100% more performance.

 

[RavenSEAL]

I highly doubt hybrid xfire is worth the loss on the cpu side. The i3 2100 costs 5 dollars more for 40-100% more performance.

At this point, you're really blowing it out of proportion. None of the gaming benchmarks you linked show a "100%" difference.

The guy simply wants to play TOR and AMD offers the best graphical solution, there is really nothing else to it.

 

[AyashiKaibutsu]

At this point, you're really blowing it out of proportion. None of the gaming benchmarks you linked show a "100%" difference.

The guy simply wants to play TOR and AMD offers the best graphical solution, end of story.

Oh sorry I was glancing at the giant differences in the bars and made a guesstimate. It's still 50+% difference and always soundly beats it in games. How you can gloss over such a difference is beyond me.

It more than obviously DOES NOT provide the best solution.

 

[andrewboon]

So if I buy that eBay harddrive, will I need the SSD?

 

[RavenSEAL]

So if I buy that eBay harddrive, will I need the SSD?

Nope

 

[RavenSEAL]

Oh sorry I was glancing at the giant differences in the bars and made a guesstimate. It's still 50+% difference and always soundly beats it in games. How you can gloss over such a difference is beyond me.

It more than obviously DOES NOT provide the best solution.

Hell, if he had $100 more, i'd be all for an Intel build with an nVidia GPU. Not to mention he also needs a monitor. And honestly, getting all that for under $600 after rebate and still have a potent package to play games with is a really good deal IMO.

SAPPHIRE Radeon HD 6850 100315L Video Card with Eyefinity
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AMD Gift - Dirt3 Game Coupon
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CORSAIR Builder Series CX430 V2 430W Power Supply
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G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory
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Crucial RealSSD C300 CTFDDAC064MAG-1G1 2.5" MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
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GIGABYTE GZ-KF03B Black Computer Case
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AMD A6-3650 2.6GHz Socket FM1 Quad-Core Desktop APU with DirectX 11 Graphic
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Hanns·G HZ201DPB Black 20" WideScreen LCD Monitor w/Speakers
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ASRock A75M-HVS Micro ATX AMD Motherboard with UEFI BIOS
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+ Hard drive

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-Western...403?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_2&hash=item231631a42b

Grand Total:$619

 

[AyashiKaibutsu]

Hell, if he had $100 more, i'd be all for an Intel build with an nVidia GPU. Not to mention he also needs a monitor. And honestly, getting all that for under $600 after rebate and still have a potent package to play games with is a really good deal.

Grand Total:$619

What's your objective misleading him? Are you really that hardcore into AMD that'll you'll completely ignore the obvious? OP you should probably take this to general hardware where hopefully there's some people with sense.

 

[RavenSEAL]

What's your objective misleading him? Are you really that hardcore into AMD that'll you'll completely ignore the obvious? OP you should probably take this to general hardware where hopefully there's some people with sense.

Alright, ****, then by all means you do it. i'm trying to help the guy get his dream built while keeping him in budget. I'm done contributing to this thread.

Good luck with your PC andrew, enjoy TOR!

 

[andrewboon]

Alright, ****, then by all means you do it. i'm trying to help the guy get his dream built while keeping him in budget. I'm done contributing to this thread.

Good luck with your PC andrew, enjoy TOR!

Alright thanks for your help and time.

 

[andrewboon]

Don't I need a disk drive or optical drive or whatever it's called to install windows and put disks into?

 

[RavenSEAL]

Don't I need a disk drive or optical drive or whatever it's called to install windows and put disks into?

Sorry, I forgot to copy it from the cart!

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827135204

 

[AyashiKaibutsu]

OP You should really go something along the lines of

asrock mobo 65$

i3 2100

total: 190$

It's completely silly what seal is suggesting to you. He's basically completely shut himself from one company because of his bias even though the choice is blatantly one sided.

 

[RavenSEAL]

I would buy that HDD soon OP