BP ordered to stop using toxic dispersant in Gulf oil clean-up

[tk149]

But but but but regulation is wrong! The free market will sort this out.

But but but they ARE regulated, so obviously, none of this has actually occurred and never will!

 

[CPA]

If I recall correctly, the EPA approved the use of those chemicals in the first place. Why are they changing their minds now?

Because some lib cried about it.

Really, what's worse the dispersant or the fucking oil itself?

 

[tk149]

I'm cynical enough to think the Russians might be sitting around saying, "hey, I have an idea on how we can get the USA to nuke themselves."

I see the humor in that.

 

[Daedalus685]

I don't understand what is wrong with this....

Dispersant is bad for you, but it is better than oil... Obviously the best solution would not to be leaking oil... but you play the hand you are dealt.

Someone in government has found out just how much oil (and thus dispersant) is leaking and has put up a fuss about using a 'less' bad version.. Bear in mind the 'less' bad version will still be powerfully shitty to the fish... but again better than the oil and likely better than what they are using now (though equally as likely far more expensive).

You know guys... we rational people are allowed to change our minds when new facts arise... What is so terrible about having approved chemical A only to find out actually how much is needed and then requiring a switch to chemical B?


I must add though... You guys are joking about the nuke right? No one could possibly think that is a good idea? Right? ... don't answer that please... Actually maybe you should as the folks at work might get a kick out of it.

 

[Brovane]

Worked for the Soviet Union 5 times (3 documented) so what makes you think it wouldn't work?

There is a lot of variables in doing something like this. This would be a last resort. Think about it. Do we even have a nuclear device that can survive the pressure at 5000 feet long enough to initiate? This isn't Abyss. There is a lot of procedures for using a nuclear device. Not even talking about the international outcry for setting of a nuke, even for peaceful purposes. We would be thumbing or noses at the Comprehensive Nuclear Test-Ban treaty. Yes I know that the treaty has been ratified. It isn't like Obama can just pick up the phone and go tell the navy to drop a nuclear device in the Gulf of Mexico. There is just way to much room for things to go wrong with doing this.

 

[JSt0rm]

There is a lot of variables in doing something like this. This would be a last resort. Think about it. Do we even have a nuclear device that can survive the pressure at 5000 feet long enough to initiate? This isn't Abyss. There is a lot of procedures for using a nuclear device. Not even talking about the international outcry for setting of a nuke, even for peaceful purposes. We would be thumbing or noses at the Comprehensive Nuclear Test-Ban treaty. Yes I know that the treaty has been ratified. It isn't like Obama can just pick up the phone and go tell the navy to drop a nuclear device in the Gulf of Mexico. There is just way to much room for things to go wrong with doing this.

according to patranus Obama is as bad a fuck up as bush because he didnt nuke the site on day 1

 

[dmcowen674]

BP ordered to stop using toxic dispersant in Gulf oil clean-up

Those Assholes used a chemical banned by Britain for a decade to the tune of 655,000 gallons

It truly has been turned into the Dead Sea of the West

 

[dmcowen674]

There is a lot of variables in doing something like this. This would be a last resort. Think about it. Do we even have a nuclear device that can survive the pressure at 5000 feet long enough to initiate? This isn't Abyss. There is a lot of procedures for using a nuclear device. Not even talking about the international outcry for setting of a nuke, even for peaceful purposes. We would be thumbing or noses at the Comprehensive Nuclear Test-Ban treaty. Yes I know that the treaty has been ratified. It isn't like Obama can just pick up the phone and go tell the navy to drop a nuclear device in the Gulf of Mexico. There is just way to much room for things to go wrong with doing this.

Detonate in an ROV, problem solved.

 

[dmcowen674]

You guys are joking about the nuke right?

No one could possibly think that is a good idea?

Problem would have been solved immediately, now it's over a month completely destroying the Gulf, what do you think?

 

[PottedMeat]

There is a lot of variables in doing something like this. This would be a last resort. Think about it. Do we even have a nuclear device that can survive the pressure at 5000 feet long enough to initiate? This isn't Abyss. There is a lot of procedures for using a nuclear device. Not even talking about the international outcry for setting of a nuke, even for peaceful purposes. We would be thumbing or noses at the Comprehensive Nuclear Test-Ban treaty. Yes I know that the treaty has been ratified. It isn't like Obama can just pick up the phone and go tell the navy to drop a nuclear device in the Gulf of Mexico. There is just way to much room for things to go wrong with doing this.

If it worked it would solve another problem. Doesn't the NNSA/Los Alamos want to know if our weapons still work? They can put an old one down and see if it works. Then they can decide on spending money on either developing new designs or just refurbishing the existing ones. They can call in observers or something to satisfy the international community.

 

[JSt0rm]

I read something I don'thave the link but I think its in the big bp thread, the guy seemed to know what he was talking about and he addressed the nuke issue and said it was a bad idea. He said if that pocket of oil is ruptured we are FUCKED as in there is so much oil in that reserve it could pump 500,000 barrels a day for 15 years! The pressure is 127,000psi and there is 10x as much natural gas in there. I dunno...my gut tells me not to blow that up.

 

[CallMeJoe]

according to patranus Obama is as bad a fuck up as bush because he didnt nuke the site on day 1

According to Patranus, President Obama is a much worse fuckup than President Bush no matter what he does.
President Obama could release a video encouraging elementary school students to practice good personal hygiene and Patranus would see harbingers of the decline of Western Civilization.

 

[Patranus]

According to Patranus, President Obama is a much worse fuckup than President Bush no matter what he does.
President Obama could release a video encouraging elementary school students to practice good personal hygiene and Patranus would see harbingers of the decline of Western Civilization.

So the government tells people to leave and they don't and then bitch because the government doesn't came and rescue them is as bad as allowing this oil fiasco to go on for a month?

Are you kidding me?

 

[JSt0rm]

So the government tells people to leave and they don't and then bitch because the government doesn't came and rescue them is as bad as allowing this oil fiasco to go on for a moth?

Are you kidding me?

Yeah thats exactly what happened

Are you this retarded in real life? I bet you aren't. I bet you sit in the cafeteria and eat alone. I bet you secretly look around at all the people having fun without you...and you hate them.

 

[Patranus]

Yeah thats exactly what happened

Are you this retarded in real life? I bet you aren't. I bet you sit in the cafeteria and eat alone. I bet you secretly look around at all the people having fun without you...and you hate them.

Typical "progressive".
Deflect instead of addressing the issue.

 

[Throckmorton]

Nuking it has a great chance of creating more leaks... Picture trying to shut off the water to your house with a big wad of firecrackers.

 

[JSt0rm]

Typical "progressive".
Deflect instead of addressing the issue.

whats the issue? The poor and sick in hospitals should of left and somehow the oil leak should of been nuked by now? Those are the issues? In your mind yes...that's why you're retarded. Your cognitive dissonance is so great it is unfathomable to my mind.

 

[Sclamoz]

So the government tells people to leave and they don't and then bitch because the government doesn't came and rescue them is as bad as allowing this oil fiasco to go on for a month?

Are you kidding me?

Just to be clear you WANT the federal government to step in and take control of the cleanup and repairing oil well from BP? That the government would do a better job than BP?

I've always heard from the right wingers that leaving the private sector in control and keeping the nanny state out will result in the best and most efficient outcome.

 

[JSt0rm]

whats funny is day 3 of the spill patranus was downplaying the oil spill saying it wasn't that bad... Fast forward a month and obama should of known to nuke it day 1. fucking idiot.

 

[Patranus]

whats funny is day 3 of the spill patranus was downplaying the oil spill saying it wasn't that bad... Fast forward a month and obama should of known to nuke it day 1. fucking idiot.

That is not what I said, I said to wait and see instead of jumping on the bandwagon slamming BP.

You still haven't said what makes the lack of a response by the Obama administration any different than the lack of response to Katrina by BOOOSH.

Secondly I really don't understand why everyone thinks nuking something is all that bad. The USA tested nuclear bombs everywhere, land, sea, and air.

Hell, you can go to where the first nuke test was as a tourist attraction.
Hiroshima is a flourishing city now.

Use a nuke as a tool to solve a problem.

 

[JSt0rm]

That is not what I said, I said to wait and see instead of jumping on the bandwagon slamming BP.

So how does wait and see become it should of been nuked?

 

[dahunan]

Because some lib cried about it.

Really, what's worse the dispersant or the fucking oil itself?

Those fucking worthless libs... life would be so much better if it were like Nazism and there were only one party..

 

[dahunan]

Everyone.. please just stop wasting talk about the nuke option... wow... lets take one hole and make it 100x bigger.. that will fix it

instead of duct tape I brought my hammer... ooh.. nice..

 

[JSt0rm]

You still haven't said what makes the lack of a response by the Obama administration any different than the lack of response to Katrina by BOOOSH.

ok edit your posts...whatever. This is obama's fault... He's been in office 18 months and he should of reviewed all this crooked oil shit from bushes 8 years of complete fuck up.

 

[CallMeJoe]

So the government tells people to leave and they don't and then bitch because the government doesn't came and rescue them is as bad as allowing this oil fiasco to go on for a month?
Are you kidding me?

You're doing a Heck of a Job here, Pattie!

If the Obama administration had taken over the drill site on day one, you'd be bitching about them sidelining the BP experts, who you would assure us would have stopped the leak in a few hours.