Boy will get suspended if he joins girls bowling team

[zendari]

Originally posted by: SNiPeRX
So men sports take up 53% of total sports.. yet women represent 14% of the schools populations... Doesnt make sense. Shouldn't the number of teams be equal in percent to the population. I think so and most people should agree. But idiotic title IX retards don't see it that way.

The number of teams should reflect relative interest in athletics. In some schools girls might be less interested than boys in sports or vice versa.

 

[zendari]

Originally posted by: shira
Your assertions are completely illogical. You're thinking is so black and white that you don't seem to be understand that there's no law barring "discrimination", per se. Discrimination is unavoidable in a working society, and it is often a GOOD thing. Anti-discrimination laws have been put in place to eliminate or reduce HARMFUL discrimination.

We have age categories for sports teams because it is a GOOD thing that, say, five year olds compete against other youngters and not against 15 year olds. Would ANYONE think this is a BAD thing?

But there is also HARMFUL discrimination. It is harmful, for example, if a company has a policy (explicit or otherwise) to not hire people older than 50.

The sorts of sports discrimination this thread has been discussing has been 99% beneficial to women, with no negative affect on men. And whatever exceptions are allowed (Annika Sorenstam playing in a PGA event, for example) is also a good thing.

Yet you take these obvious, good types of discrimination and read into them motives that are not there.

You forgot to mention: It's Mr. God Shira that determines what is harmful discrimination and what isn't!

The top 125 earners on the PGA tour automatically retain their membership for the next year, while the remainder have to qualify again. I guess there's nothing wrong with the guys who lose their cards because Annika and Wie came onto their tour, because they can just go qualify on the other tour......oh wait, they can't.

No harm done indeed.

 

[PingSpike]

Originally posted by: deepred98

Originally posted by: Harvey

Originally posted by: zendari
Feminists don't want equality.

Great thinking, zendari. Has it occurred to you that there are very good reasons for female only sports competition>

In general, males are physically bigger and stronger than females, and typically, they outperform females. A few very gifted females may be able to compete on a par with males. Michelle Wie is a good example. She's 6' tall, 150 lbs., 16 years old, and she drives the ball further than most guys.

I see no problem with allowing females to enter any competition where they can compete on at the level of males.

The opposite is not necessarily a viable condition. Allowing all males to enter events where their physical size and strength would give them an advantage that would deprive almost all females of any place to compete, at all.

It has nothing to do with "feminists." It has everything to do with providing fair competion for everyone, especially in a scholastic environment.

soooo... men are better than females

i'm sure your argument, however true, would spark some hard criticism form feminists

No men aren't better! We're the same! But don't let the men play on our women's teams. Because...they're...equal? *head splodes*

 

[PingSpike]

Originally posted by: kogase

Originally posted by: zendari
There are some butch females like the Williams sisters that are bigger and stronger than all the other females. Should they not be allowed to compete in women's leagues because of their size and strength advantage?

Shaq is bigger than the rest of the NBA. Should he be not allowed to compete because of a size and strength advantage?

If the competition is bigger than you are, buck up and get some skill if you want to remain a professional, or back down and play in your minor/amateur leagues.


Funny how liberals have no problems with gender discrimination when it suits their purposes.

So should they get rid of weight classes in boxing? After all, that's... WEIGHT DISCRIMINATION <insert Dragnet theme>. In different sports, lines are drawn in different places. In many sports that line is drawn between different sexes. Bowling doesn't seem like a sport that needs a line, but whatever. The kid just sounds like somebody who wants to hammer home a petty little point. If he was really dead set on bowling he could join a real bowling team, but no, he's actually at it to pull the gender card. Lame.

The school does not have a boys bowling team.

What bowling team should he join? He should make his own? Oh, then why don't women that want to play football make their own football team to play on? Oh thats right...because that isn't fair. But its plenty fair when the shoe is on the other foot I see.

 

[BoberFett]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
This is a huge affront to those of us with dicks and large balls.

Moonie

We can't let YOU on the girls bowling team because your huge balls would give you a sustantial advantage of the girls who are only using bowling balls.

 

[BoberFett]

Originally posted by: kogase
Uh, yeah, yeah. Of course if you look at the letter of the law, the kid has a point. But like I was saying, it's quite petty. And like moshquerade said, even if the kid is right he's still just being a little bitch. He is simply trying to prove a petty little point, and you support him whole-heartedly in his miserable little endeavor. To paraphrase The Simpsons: "One person can make a difference, but, well... most of the time he probably shouldn't."

Yes, it's very petty of him. He should just sit in the back of the bus where he belongs. I mean he shouldn't bowl. Yeah, that's what I mean.

 

[moshquerade]

Originally posted by: BoberFett

Originally posted by: kogase
Uh, yeah, yeah. Of course if you look at the letter of the law, the kid has a point. But like I was saying, it's quite petty. And like moshquerade said, even if the kid is right he's still just being a little bitch. He is simply trying to prove a petty little point, and you support him whole-heartedly in his miserable little endeavor. To paraphrase The Simpsons: "One person can make a difference, but, well... most of the time he probably shouldn't."

Yes, it's very petty of him. He should just sit in the back of the bus where he belongs. I mean he shouldn't bowl. Yeah, that's what I mean.

comparing him to Rosa Parks is a bit much.

 

[BoberFett]

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: BoberFett

Originally posted by: kogase
Uh, yeah, yeah. Of course if you look at the letter of the law, the kid has a point. But like I was saying, it's quite petty. And like moshquerade said, even if the kid is right he's still just being a little bitch. He is simply trying to prove a petty little point, and you support him whole-heartedly in his miserable little endeavor. To paraphrase The Simpsons: "One person can make a difference, but, well... most of the time he probably shouldn't."

Yes, it's very petty of him. He should just sit in the back of the bus where he belongs. I mean he shouldn't bowl. Yeah, that's what I mean.

comparing him to Rosa Parks is a bit much.

At the surface, where you sit on the bus is a petty thing to complain about. However the larger issue was equality, as it is here.

 

[shira]

Originally posted by: zendari

Originally posted by: shira
Your assertions are completely illogical. You're thinking is so black and white that you don't seem to be understand that there's no law barring "discrimination", per se. Discrimination is unavoidable in a working society, and it is often a GOOD thing. Anti-discrimination laws have been put in place to eliminate or reduce HARMFUL discrimination.

We have age categories for sports teams because it is a GOOD thing that, say, five year olds compete against other youngters and not against 15 year olds. Would ANYONE think this is a BAD thing?

But there is also HARMFUL discrimination. It is harmful, for example, if a company has a policy (explicit or otherwise) to not hire people older than 50.

The sorts of sports discrimination this thread has been discussing has been 99% beneficial to women, with no negative affect on men. And whatever exceptions are allowed (Annika Sorenstam playing in a PGA event, for example) is also a good thing.

Yet you take these obvious, good types of discrimination and read into them motives that are not there.

You forgot to mention: It's Mr. God Shira that determines what is harmful discrimination and what isn't!

The top 125 earners on the PGA tour automatically retain their membership for the next year, while the remainder have to qualify again. I guess there's nothing wrong with the guys who lose their cards because Annika and Wie came onto their tour, because they can just go qualify on the other tour......oh wait, they can't.

No harm done indeed.

No. It's not up to me to decide anything of the kind. You're creating controversy where virtually none exists (the fact that there are occasional controversies is just a reflection of the fact that no system is perfect).

By your completely confused logic, if ANY two people compete and one is better than the other, it's "harmful discrimination" if one is chosen for the team (or for a league) and the other left out. By your reasoning, we cannot have ANY sports teams based on skill (or sex, or age, or anything else), since less skillful players (or those of the other sex, or age, or whatever) are left out. By your reasoning, there shouldn't be contracts for anything (forget just the top 125 PGA golfers), since they "lock in place" jobs that less-skilled people should have access to.

This is how YOU interpret "discrimination"and anti-discrimination laws. You are wildly misinformed (as usual) and completely irrational.

 

[Zebo]

let him join.. bowing is not a sport where a man can just dominate women based on strength, power and speed. And since there is no option for him to bowl in a mens league why not? This is'nt taliban or Saudi country where men and women need to be separated till marriage.

 

[Zebo]

Is there an update on this story? They said tuesday for showing at hoffman lanes he'd be suspended, todays thursday...I hope he was suspended.. gunna be a multiillionaire.. first on discrimination then retribution on suspension.

 

[kogase]

Originally posted by: BoberFett

Originally posted by: kogase
Uh, yeah, yeah. Of course if you look at the letter of the law, the kid has a point. But like I was saying, it's quite petty. And like moshquerade said, even if the kid is right he's still just being a little bitch. He is simply trying to prove a petty little point, and you support him whole-heartedly in his miserable little endeavor. To paraphrase The Simpsons: "One person can make a difference, but, well... most of the time he probably shouldn't."

Yes, it's very petty of him. He should just sit in the back of the bus where he belongs. I mean he shouldn't bowl. Yeah, that's what I mean.

Rosa Parks stood up to a culture of egregiously widespread racial discrimination and hatred. Not the case here.

 

[kogase]

Originally posted by: PingSpike
What bowling team should he join? He should make his own? Oh, then why don't women that want to play football make their own football team to play on? Oh thats right...because that isn't fair. But its plenty fair when the shoe is on the other foot I see.

He could either: ask the school to make a boys bowling team; join bowling league. Either of them is preferable to his little show of "fighting the man against reverse discrimination".

 

[zendari]

Originally posted by: kogase

Originally posted by: PingSpike
What bowling team should he join? He should make his own? Oh, then why don't women that want to play football make their own football team to play on? Oh thats right...because that isn't fair. But its plenty fair when the shoe is on the other foot I see.

He could either: ask the school to make a boys bowling team; join bowling league. Either of them is preferable to his little show of "fighting the man against reverse discrimination".

WTF is "reverse" discrimination?

 

[kogase]

Originally posted by: zendari

Originally posted by: kogase

Originally posted by: PingSpike
What bowling team should he join? He should make his own? Oh, then why don't women that want to play football make their own football team to play on? Oh thats right...because that isn't fair. But its plenty fair when the shoe is on the other foot I see.

He could either: ask the school to make a boys bowling team; join bowling league. Either of them is preferable to his little show of "fighting the man against reverse discrimination".

WTF is "reverse" discrimination?

I've had to ask the same question in these forums. Apparently, "reverse discrimination" is where men or whites complain of discriminiation.

 

[ExpertNovice]

Originally posted by: kogase

Originally posted by: zendari

Originally posted by: kogase

Originally posted by: PingSpike
What bowling team should he join? He should make his own? Oh, then why don't women that want to play football make their own football team to play on? Oh thats right...because that isn't fair. But its plenty fair when the shoe is on the other foot I see.

He could either: ask the school to make a boys bowling team; join bowling league. Either of them is preferable to his little show of "fighting the man against reverse discrimination".

WTF is "reverse" discrimination?

I've had to ask the same question in these forums. Apparently, "reverse discrimination" is where men or whites complain of discriminiation.

Thanks. I thought it meant where non-liberals complained about discrimination.

 

[MadRat]

Originally posted by: OrganizedChaos
that school is going to get its ass handed to under Title IX

The thread could of ended here. Quite frankly its one non-humorous quip - among many nonsensical postings - that had quite sound reason behind it. Title IX is going to bite the school if they come down on this boy. The reason volleyball is allowed "girls only" in schools that offer football is because football offers far more opportunities to males than females during that season. It is only in cases of seasonal-based gender inequity - there are not as many opportunities during the said season for one sex as opposed to the other - when special sports programs are allowed. If the bowling team pushes girl opportunities past the boy opportunities then it violates the precedent set in more than one Title IX case. This is true even if the bowling team helps push gender equality when considering the entire school year. The precedence has already been established, so in this case depending on the circumstances this boy may be rightful to sue.

 

[zendari]

Originally posted by: ExpertNovice
Thanks. I thought it meant where non-liberals complained about discrimination.

According to some liberals, only whites can be racist, and only men can be sexist.

 

[aidanjm]

Originally posted by: kogase

Originally posted by: PingSpike
What bowling team should he join? He should make his own? Oh, then why don't women that want to play football make their own football team to play on? Oh thats right...because that isn't fair. But its plenty fair when the shoe is on the other foot I see.

He could either: ask the school to make a boys bowling team; join bowling league. Either of them is preferable to his little show of "fighting the man against reverse discrimination".

why are you being so mean-spirited on this?

isn't it the kid's right to test this (in court, or wherever) if he thinks it is important?

 

[BoberFett]

Originally posted by: aidanjm

Originally posted by: kogase

Originally posted by: PingSpike
What bowling team should he join? He should make his own? Oh, then why don't women that want to play football make their own football team to play on? Oh thats right...because that isn't fair. But its plenty fair when the shoe is on the other foot I see.

He could either: ask the school to make a boys bowling team; join bowling league. Either of them is preferable to his little show of "fighting the man against reverse discrimination".

why are you being so mean-spirited on this?

isn't it the kid's right to test this (in court, or wherever) if he thinks it is important?

Because people like kogase are modern liberals. They stand for freedom and justice, as long as you goosestep to the same tune they do.

 

[aidanjm]

Originally posted by: BoberFett

Originally posted by: aidanjm

Originally posted by: kogase

Originally posted by: PingSpike
What bowling team should he join? He should make his own? Oh, then why don't women that want to play football make their own football team to play on? Oh thats right...because that isn't fair. But its plenty fair when the shoe is on the other foot I see.

He could either: ask the school to make a boys bowling team; join bowling league. Either of them is preferable to his little show of "fighting the man against reverse discrimination".

why are you being so mean-spirited on this?

isn't it the kid's right to test this (in court, or wherever) if he thinks it is important?

Because people like kogase are modern liberals. They stand for freedom and justice, as long as you goosestep to the same tune they do.

I am a liberal. Is kogase a liberal?

 

[moshquerade]

Originally posted by: BoberFett

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: BoberFett

Originally posted by: kogase
Uh, yeah, yeah. Of course if you look at the letter of the law, the kid has a point. But like I was saying, it's quite petty. And like moshquerade said, even if the kid is right he's still just being a little bitch. He is simply trying to prove a petty little point, and you support him whole-heartedly in his miserable little endeavor. To paraphrase The Simpsons: "One person can make a difference, but, well... most of the time he probably shouldn't."

Yes, it's very petty of him. He should just sit in the back of the bus where he belongs. I mean he shouldn't bowl. Yeah, that's what I mean.

comparing him to Rosa Parks is a bit much.

At the surface, where you sit on the bus is a petty thing to complain about. However the larger issue was equality, as it is here.

do you really believe there is an equality issue on the whole in this country where men are treated unfairly in situations involving women.
so much so that you want to compare it to blacks and the civil rights movement?

 

[Proletariat]

Why the hell does he want to join the girls bowling team?

Is it for the pussy?

 

[kogase]

Originally posted by: aidanjm

Originally posted by: kogase

Originally posted by: PingSpike
What bowling team should he join? He should make his own? Oh, then why don't women that want to play football make their own football team to play on? Oh thats right...because that isn't fair. But its plenty fair when the shoe is on the other foot I see.

He could either: ask the school to make a boys bowling team; join bowling league. Either of them is preferable to his little show of "fighting the man against reverse discrimination".

why are you being so mean-spirited on this?

isn't it the kid's right to test this (in court, or wherever) if he thinks it is important?

Because I was in a mean spirited mood yesterday. When it comes down to it, I don't care either way what he does. Won't effect me. I do find the whole deal with complaints and discrimination pretty silly, when either gender does it. I also don't see why he's so deadset on joining the female team rather than having the school make a male team. To me it looks like he's doing so because he wants to prove a point rather than because he really wants to bowl. If the former, it's just a ridiculous case of flogging the dead horse of modern racial/gender discrimination whining.

 

[aidanjm]

Originally posted by: kogase

Originally posted by: aidanjm

Originally posted by: kogase

Originally posted by: PingSpike
What bowling team should he join? He should make his own? Oh, then why don't women that want to play football make their own football team to play on? Oh thats right...because that isn't fair. But its plenty fair when the shoe is on the other foot I see.

He could either: ask the school to make a boys bowling team; join bowling league. Either of them is preferable to his little show of "fighting the man against reverse discrimination".

why are you being so mean-spirited on this?

isn't it the kid's right to test this (in court, or wherever) if he thinks it is important?

Because I was in a mean spirited mood yesterday. When it comes down to it, I don't care either way what he does. Won't effect me. I do find the whole deal with complaints and discrimination pretty silly, when either gender does it. I also don't see why he's so deadset on joining the female team rather than having the school make a male team. To me it looks like he's doing so because he wants to prove a point rather than because he really wants to bowl. If the former, it's just a ridiculous case of flogging the dead horse of modern racial/gender discrimination whining.

how can you have a male team of 1? where do you get he doesn't want a male team btw?