Boy its hard being friends with religious people

[zinfamous]

Originally posted by: oogabooga

Originally posted by: Taejin

Originally posted by: Cogman
Boy its hard to be friends with atheist people.

They are always *concerned* that you are a sheeple and try to disprove what you believe it. I just tell them that I am mormon and they go all crazy about it.

Anybody else deal with this?

The problems not with the religion, it is with the person. Get more understanding friends rather then complain about them worrying for your soul.

pretty sure its the religious folk who are proselytizing, not the atheists..you know, since we don't actually believe in a religion

There are plenty on both sides who talk too much. And there are even more on both sides who don't talk that much but think the other side is dumb/retarded/won't listen to logic/etc and given the opportunity will say so.

Sadly with every point of view there are plenty of retarded/angry/dumb people who share it with otherwise normal decent folk (this I imagine is a reflection of the 'bad' people, not the belief)

too true.

the same can be said about politics. 😉

 

[DangerAardvark]

Originally posted by: OdiN

Originally posted by: ICRS

Originally posted by: JS80

Originally posted by: MartyMcFly3
My best friend in high school at the time was atheist. He and I got along swimmingly. He then went into the Marines and was shipped overseas. Because of this ordeal, he found religion while overseas. This wouldnt be a big deal but now everything that I do that goes against Catholicism (im Catholic) or Christianity according to him means that I am below what a human should be. Apparently I am now the scum of the earth and don't deserve to call myself Christian because of my actions. It really hurt our friendship now that he's found religion, and I am saddened by it. I basically lost my best friend, so I know how you feel OP.

He apparently missed the part where Jesus accepted everyone. It's amazing how people can claim to believe in Him and then miss the whole freaking point.

Luke 19:27
"But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me."

Yep jesus sure accepted everyone. :disgust:

Hooray for taking things out of context. Jesus didn't say that, meaning it literally, it was part of a parable.

The whole thing is basically about faith, and the last part (which you quoted without the entire preceding story it is a part of) is basically saying that those who do not accept Christ will not enter heaven.

Here's the parable in convenient Lego form! The moral of the story is that God's a huge dick.

 

[zinfamous]

Originally posted by: OdiN

Originally posted by: ICRS

Originally posted by: OdiN

Originally posted by: ICRS

Originally posted by: OdiN

Originally posted by: ICRS

Originally posted by: JS80

Originally posted by: MartyMcFly3
My best friend in high school at the time was atheist. He and I got along swimmingly. He then went into the Marines and was shipped overseas. Because of this ordeal, he found religion while overseas. This wouldnt be a big deal but now everything that I do that goes against Catholicism (im Catholic) or Christianity according to him means that I am below what a human should be. Apparently I am now the scum of the earth and don't deserve to call myself Christian because of my actions. It really hurt our friendship now that he's found religion, and I am saddened by it. I basically lost my best friend, so I know how you feel OP.

He apparently missed the part where Jesus accepted everyone. It's amazing how people can claim to believe in Him and then miss the whole freaking point.

Luke 19:27
"But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me."

Yep jesus sure accepted everyone. :disgust:

Hooray for taking things out of context. Jesus didn't say that, meaning it literally, it was part of a parable.

The whole thing is basically about faith, and the last part (which you quoted without the entire preceding story it is a part of) is basically saying that those who do not accept Christ will not enter heaven.

Are you an Xtian?

What is an Xtian? I'm not familiar with that term.

An Xtian is what people call Christians.

Perhaps you, but I've never heard anyone else say that.

nor had I. But I just now figured it out :light:

you know...the Xmas thing. Christ = X.

algebra, get it? 😉
:beer:

 

[OdiN]

Originally posted by: DangerAardvark

Originally posted by: OdiN

Originally posted by: ICRS

Originally posted by: JS80

Originally posted by: MartyMcFly3
My best friend in high school at the time was atheist. He and I got along swimmingly. He then went into the Marines and was shipped overseas. Because of this ordeal, he found religion while overseas. This wouldnt be a big deal but now everything that I do that goes against Catholicism (im Catholic) or Christianity according to him means that I am below what a human should be. Apparently I am now the scum of the earth and don't deserve to call myself Christian because of my actions. It really hurt our friendship now that he's found religion, and I am saddened by it. I basically lost my best friend, so I know how you feel OP.

He apparently missed the part where Jesus accepted everyone. It's amazing how people can claim to believe in Him and then miss the whole freaking point.

Luke 19:27
"But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me."

Yep jesus sure accepted everyone. :disgust:

Hooray for taking things out of context. Jesus didn't say that, meaning it literally, it was part of a parable.

The whole thing is basically about faith, and the last part (which you quoted without the entire preceding story it is a part of) is basically saying that those who do not accept Christ will not enter heaven.

Here's the parable in convenient Lego form! The moral of the story is that God's a huge dick.

You shouldn't comment on something if you don't understand it.

 

[ICRS]

I am really shocked at the number of theist on ATOT. 🙁

 

[OdiN]

Originally posted by: zinfamous

nor had I. But I just now figured it out :light:

you know...the Xmas thing. Christ = X.

algebra, get it? 😉
:beer:

Nobody I know says "Xmas" either.

 

[zinfamous]

Originally posted by: OdiN

Originally posted by: DangerAardvark

Originally posted by: OdiN

Originally posted by: ICRS

Originally posted by: JS80

Originally posted by: MartyMcFly3
My best friend in high school at the time was atheist. He and I got along swimmingly. He then went into the Marines and was shipped overseas. Because of this ordeal, he found religion while overseas. This wouldnt be a big deal but now everything that I do that goes against Catholicism (im Catholic) or Christianity according to him means that I am below what a human should be. Apparently I am now the scum of the earth and don't deserve to call myself Christian because of my actions. It really hurt our friendship now that he's found religion, and I am saddened by it. I basically lost my best friend, so I know how you feel OP.

He apparently missed the part where Jesus accepted everyone. It's amazing how people can claim to believe in Him and then miss the whole freaking point.

Luke 19:27
"But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me."

Yep jesus sure accepted everyone. :disgust:

Hooray for taking things out of context. Jesus didn't say that, meaning it literally, it was part of a parable.

The whole thing is basically about faith, and the last part (which you quoted without the entire preceding story it is a part of) is basically saying that those who do not accept Christ will not enter heaven.

Here's the parable in convenient Lego form! The moral of the story is that God's a huge dick.

You shouldn't comment on something if you don't understand it.

The Brick Testament is awesome!

My mom, who is an Ordained Minister, absolutely loves it. I think Legos are the perfect medium for spreading The Word.

 

[MichaelD]

Nobody knows what Jesus, Mohammed, Buddha or any of those guys said b/c no one was around to hear it with their own two ears. The Bible, Koran and Buddhist equivalent (is there one?) were written by men. Created, changed, edited and distorted by men. What we have as religious books today are no more than cliffs notes.

 

[zinfamous]

Originally posted by: OdiN

Originally posted by: zinfamous

nor had I. But I just now figured it out :light:

you know...the Xmas thing. Christ = X.

algebra, get it? 😉
:beer:

Nobody I know says "Xmas" either.

perhaps he miss-typed. perhaps he should have "typed," "Everyone I know 'types' it this way."

I've said X-mas a few times, b/c I find it ridiculous. From where does that tradition derive anyway? I assume it has to do with the middle ages, or the days before the printing press, when the masses were illiterate.

EDIT:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xmas

ah, seems probable to be a commercial derivation. though, this is interesting:

The word "Christ" and its compounds, including "Christmas", have been abbreviated for at least the past 1,000 years, long before the modern "Xmas" was commonly used. "Christ" was often written as "XP"

:shocked:

 

[OdiN]

Originally posted by: MichaelD
Nobody knows what Jesus, Mohammed, Buddha or any of those guys said b/c no one was around to hear it with their own two ears. The Bible, Koran and Buddhist equivalent (is there one?) were written by men. Created, changed, edited and distorted by men. What we have as religious books today are no more than cliffs notes.

Actually if you look in a Bible, it should say that it was translated by many different people (and not one individual) from the earliest available texts (greek, aramaic, whatever it may be) - also the Bible is historically accurate, archaeology has confirmed things in it, etc.

 

[OdiN]

Originally posted by: zinfamous

Originally posted by: OdiN

Originally posted by: zinfamous

nor had I. But I just now figured it out :light:

you know...the Xmas thing. Christ = X.

algebra, get it? 😉
:beer:

Nobody I know says "Xmas" either.

perhaps he miss-typed. perhaps he should have "typed," "Everyone I know 'types' it this way."

I've said X-mas a few times, b/c I find it ridiculous. From where does that tradition derive anyway? I assume it has to do with the middle ages, or the days before the printing press, when the masses were illiterate.

It stems from old english.

 

[ICRS]

Originally posted by: zinfamous

Originally posted by: OdiN

Originally posted by: DangerAardvark

Originally posted by: OdiN

Originally posted by: ICRS

Originally posted by: JS80

Originally posted by: MartyMcFly3
My best friend in high school at the time was atheist. He and I got along swimmingly. He then went into the Marines and was shipped overseas. Because of this ordeal, he found religion while overseas. This wouldnt be a big deal but now everything that I do that goes against Catholicism (im Catholic) or Christianity according to him means that I am below what a human should be. Apparently I am now the scum of the earth and don't deserve to call myself Christian because of my actions. It really hurt our friendship now that he's found religion, and I am saddened by it. I basically lost my best friend, so I know how you feel OP.

He apparently missed the part where Jesus accepted everyone. It's amazing how people can claim to believe in Him and then miss the whole freaking point.

Luke 19:27
"But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me."

Yep jesus sure accepted everyone. :disgust:

Hooray for taking things out of context. Jesus didn't say that, meaning it literally, it was part of a parable.

The whole thing is basically about faith, and the last part (which you quoted without the entire preceding story it is a part of) is basically saying that those who do not accept Christ will not enter heaven.

Here's the parable in convenient Lego form! The moral of the story is that God's a huge dick.

You shouldn't comment on something if you don't understand it.

The Brick Testament is awesome!

My mom, who is an Ordained Minister, absolutely loves it. I think Legos are the perfect medium for spreading The Word.

Does your mom love this one too.

http://www.thebricktestament.c...children/dt21_18a.html

spread the love of god and kill your kids. :disgust:

 

[zinfamous]

Originally posted by: OdiN

Originally posted by: MichaelD
Nobody knows what Jesus, Mohammed, Buddha or any of those guys said b/c no one was around to hear it with their own two ears. The Bible, Koran and Buddhist equivalent (is there one?) were written by men. Created, changed, edited and distorted by men. What we have as religious books today are no more than cliffs notes.

Actually if you look in a Bible, it should say that it was translated by many different people (and not one individual) from the earliest available texts (greek, aramaic, whatever it may be) - also the Bible is historically accurate, archaeology has confirmed things in it, etc.

yes, many locations have been confirmed. Some still remain a mystery. Miracles, of course, will never be confirmed. Much of the Old Testament God-smiting is confirmable through evidence of mass floods, fires, and such which have proven to have been naturally-occurring.

Of course, much of the civilization-based stories (towns mentioned only in the Bible), depend on Carbon dating for proof. And the proof is there. Theists love it when such proof is found, but then criticize the validity of carbon dating when, 'gasp!' the subject of evolution is raised....not to mention all the other science that is involved in archaeology, and necessary for the proof that the Bible--a parable of life not necessarily meant to be taken literally--needs for some reason....

 

[DangerAardvark]

Originally posted by: OdiN

Originally posted by: DangerAardvark

Originally posted by: OdiN

Originally posted by: ICRS

Originally posted by: JS80

Originally posted by: MartyMcFly3
My best friend in high school at the time was atheist. He and I got along swimmingly. He then went into the Marines and was shipped overseas. Because of this ordeal, he found religion while overseas. This wouldnt be a big deal but now everything that I do that goes against Catholicism (im Catholic) or Christianity according to him means that I am below what a human should be. Apparently I am now the scum of the earth and don't deserve to call myself Christian because of my actions. It really hurt our friendship now that he's found religion, and I am saddened by it. I basically lost my best friend, so I know how you feel OP.

He apparently missed the part where Jesus accepted everyone. It's amazing how people can claim to believe in Him and then miss the whole freaking point.

Luke 19:27
"But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me."

Yep jesus sure accepted everyone. :disgust:

Hooray for taking things out of context. Jesus didn't say that, meaning it literally, it was part of a parable.

The whole thing is basically about faith, and the last part (which you quoted without the entire preceding story it is a part of) is basically saying that those who do not accept Christ will not enter heaven.

Here's the parable in convenient Lego form! The moral of the story is that God's a huge dick.

You shouldn't comment on something if you don't understand it.

You said it yourself: "the last part (which you quoted without the entire preceding story it is a part of) is basically saying that those who do not accept Christ will not enter heaven."

Well, let's see... what's the alternative to Heaven? Hmm... oh right, eternal torture. So infinite suffering for a finite sin. Maybe it's just me, but that seems like a pretty dick move.

 

[zinfamous]

Originally posted by: ICRS

Originally posted by: zinfamous

Originally posted by: OdiN

Originally posted by: DangerAardvark

Originally posted by: OdiN

Originally posted by: ICRS

Originally posted by: JS80

Originally posted by: MartyMcFly3
My best friend in high school at the time was atheist. He and I got along swimmingly. He then went into the Marines and was shipped overseas. Because of this ordeal, he found religion while overseas. This wouldnt be a big deal but now everything that I do that goes against Catholicism (im Catholic) or Christianity according to him means that I am below what a human should be. Apparently I am now the scum of the earth and don't deserve to call myself Christian because of my actions. It really hurt our friendship now that he's found religion, and I am saddened by it. I basically lost my best friend, so I know how you feel OP.

He apparently missed the part where Jesus accepted everyone. It's amazing how people can claim to believe in Him and then miss the whole freaking point.

Luke 19:27
"But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me."

Yep jesus sure accepted everyone. :disgust:

Hooray for taking things out of context. Jesus didn't say that, meaning it literally, it was part of a parable.

The whole thing is basically about faith, and the last part (which you quoted without the entire preceding story it is a part of) is basically saying that those who do not accept Christ will not enter heaven.

Here's the parable in convenient Lego form! The moral of the story is that God's a huge dick.

You shouldn't comment on something if you don't understand it.

The Brick Testament is awesome!

My mom, who is an Ordained Minister, absolutely loves it. I think Legos are the perfect medium for spreading The Word.

Does your mom love this one too.

http://www.thebricktestament.c...children/dt21_18a.html

spread the love of god and kill your kids. :disgust:

they're all good.

I think your non-faith has blinded you to the ability of the educated (yes, even those of faith have humor), to criticize and dispel the clear irony in the text.

by the way, I am not to be mistaken as a person of Faith. Far from it. I just know a lot of 'em. Know some crazies (meth heads, a few of them..... born-again, naturally), and some legit good folks.

If you can't discern the intent of my posts, then I don't know what to tell you...

 

[So]

Originally posted by: Leros
One could argue that "normal" religious people create an accepting atmosphere for religion that enables the nutjobs to exist without much resistance.

One could argue that.

More importantly, religion is a choice. Just like I can hate stoners or I can hate punks, I can hate people for a choice they've made.

Not that I personally do, mind you, but there is a fundamental difference between picking someone out because they were born black and doing so because they choose to believe a certain thing.

 

[Xylitol]

this is something that annoys me
not all religious people are against pro-choice
not all religious people are perfect (and if not perfect, should be belittled)
not all religious people are annoying door-to-door evangelists and talk about how everyone's going to hell
etc.

 

[DangerAardvark]

Originally posted by: zinfamous

Originally posted by: OdiN

Originally posted by: MichaelD
Nobody knows what Jesus, Mohammed, Buddha or any of those guys said b/c no one was around to hear it with their own two ears. The Bible, Koran and Buddhist equivalent (is there one?) were written by men. Created, changed, edited and distorted by men. What we have as religious books today are no more than cliffs notes.

Actually if you look in a Bible, it should say that it was translated by many different people (and not one individual) from the earliest available texts (greek, aramaic, whatever it may be) - also the Bible is historically accurate, archaeology has confirmed things in it, etc.

yes, many locations have been confirmed. Some still remain a mystery. Miracles, of course, will never be confirmed. Much of the Old Testament God-smiting is confirmable through evidence of mass floods, fires, and such which have proven to have been naturally-occurring.

Of course, much of the civilization-based stories (towns mentioned only in the Bible), depend on Carbon dating for proof. And the proof is there. Theists love it when such proof is found, but then criticize the validity of carbon dating when, 'gasp!' the subject of evolution is raised....not to mention all the other science that is involved in archaeology, and necessary for the proof that the Bible--a parable of life not necessarily meant to be taken literally--needs for some reason....

Yeah, I hate the claim that the Bible is historically accurate because it cites real locations and historical figures. So does the Odyssey.

 

[yhelothar]

i have a hardcore christian friend.
he loves to tell me how much god helped him, but he doesn't push his views onto me.
he listens to my atheist views too. he doesn't care that i smoke weed either
no complaints

 

[daniel1113]

I find it hard to be friends with people with zero capacity for rational thought, religious or otherwise.

 

[paulxcook]

Originally posted by: Ocguy31

Originally posted by: paulxcook

Originally posted by: Ocguy31
I wish we could group them together...on an island. And if a hydrogen bomb that was left there by mistake happens to go off, then it was just "what Gawd wanted", and "happened for a reason."

Pull your pants up, your swastika is showing.

Hmmm....not believing in gawd/allah/toothfairy etc makes you a early 20th century German politcal party that was bent on eliminating the Jews and anyone else not Aryan?

Im not connecting those dots, sorry.

You want to exterminate a certain group of people based on their religion. Seig heil.

 

[Anubis]

Originally posted by: paulxcook

Originally posted by: Ocguy31

Originally posted by: paulxcook

Originally posted by: Ocguy31
I wish we could group them together...on an island. And if a hydrogen bomb that was left there by mistake happens to go off, then it was just "what Gawd wanted", and "happened for a reason."

Pull your pants up, your swastika is showing.

Hmmm....not believing in gawd/allah/toothfairy etc makes you a early 20th century German politcal party that was bent on eliminating the Jews and anyone else not Aryan?

Im not connecting those dots, sorry.

You want to exterminate a certain group of people based on their religion. Seig heil.

some people beleive the world would be a better place if there were ZERO faith based religions in the world

he looks like he is one of them, i also am

 

[DangerAardvark]

Originally posted by: paulxcook

Originally posted by: Ocguy31

Originally posted by: paulxcook

Originally posted by: Ocguy31
I wish we could group them together...on an island. And if a hydrogen bomb that was left there by mistake happens to go off, then it was just "what Gawd wanted", and "happened for a reason."

Pull your pants up, your swastika is showing.

Hmmm....not believing in gawd/allah/toothfairy etc makes you a early 20th century German politcal party that was bent on eliminating the Jews and anyone else not Aryan?

Im not connecting those dots, sorry.

You want to exterminate a certain group of people based on their religion. Seig heil.

No kidding. If Atheists want the moderates of any religion to police their own ranks for extremists, then we have to do the same to ours and call people who even suggest shit like what Ocguy did out for the cunts they are. Like we need more comparisons to Stalin.

 

[Red Dawn]

It's just the fanatics, you know the Fund A Mental Cases, that are nutjobs be them Christian, Muslim or Jewish.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: Xylitol
this is something that annoys me
not all religious people are against pro-choice
not all religious people are perfect (and if not perfect, should be belittled)
not all religious people are annoying door-to-door evangelists and talk about how everyone's going to hell

Not all Religious People are Fund A Mental Cases.