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Boy its hard being friends with religious people

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Originally posted by: Juked07
Why's it okay to group religious people together and generalize about them? I know my fair share of nutjobs who are religious, but I also know a number of very cool/interesting people who are religious.

It seems to me like saying something like "Man, I can't stand religious people" is really a failed attempt of saying "Man, I know a number of religious people I can't stand."

It would not be PC to say, "Man, I can't stand black people" or "All Mexicans are useless," so why is something like "Religious people are completely ignorant" considered okay, when obviously there exist objective thinkers who are theists (although I'll agree they are not the majority)?

Thoughts?

I'll also add that I'm sure we all have encountered plenty of atheists who are difficult to get along with. Why don't we then make the same mistake of overgeneralization and say that all atheists are jerks?

You're lumping them together, not me. Personally, when I make a generalization, I do it for convenience. It's easier to say "I can't stand religious people" than it is to say "I can't stand religious fanatics that attempt to force their religion on others."
 
Originally posted by: paulxcook
Originally posted by: MartyMcFly3
It isn't bad to say all religious people are bad, compared to "I hate black people" or "I hate mexicans", because religious people amount to a whole hell of a lot of races and backgrounds. Aside from religion, which is very questionable to begin with, there is nothing that bonds all these people together.

Its the equivalent of a person saying "I hate people". Granted the person saying it is an asshole but it doesn't make them politically incorrect or anything.

I'd rather be an asshole than politically correct. Or maybe being politically correct makes one an asshole. Hmm.

Dont get me wrong, Im an asshole myself. 😉
 
I wish we could group them together...on an island. And if a hydrogen bomb that was left there by mistake happens to go off, then it was just "what Gawd wanted", and "happened for a reason."
 
Originally posted by: Ocguy31
I wish we could group them together...on an island. And if a hydrogen bomb that was left there by mistake happens to go off, then it was just "what Gawd wanted", and "happened for a reason."

Pull your pants up, your swastika is showing.
 
Originally posted by: paulxcook
Originally posted by: Ocguy31
I wish we could group them together...on an island. And if a hydrogen bomb that was left there by mistake happens to go off, then it was just "what Gawd wanted", and "happened for a reason."

Pull your pants up, your swastika is showing.


Hmmm....not believing in gawd/allah/toothfairy etc makes you a early 20th century German politcal party that was bent on eliminating the Jews and anyone else not Aryan?

Im not connecting those dots, sorry.
 
Originally posted by: MetalMat
Thats fine, but if you come over to my place and see porn and a bong don't complain about it like my buddy did. I went over to his place and did not complain about the stuff over there. Im just venting cause he got into an argument over the ordeal.

Was he converned about your bong because he thought it was sinful, or was he just generally concerned for you as a person?

As far as being friends with religious people, it's kind of hard not to when most of the population believes in some sort of deity.

It doesn't bother me at all unless they are too forward about it. If they are, then I kindly tell them that I'm not interested. And if they don't listen, then we are no longer friends.
 
Originally posted by: RichardE
Originally posted by: Baked
What's the deal w/ Wednesday church?

Young Adult fellowship probably. We have ours Tuesday night.

Wednesday night prayer meeting, Wednesday night Bible study, etc.

We just call it Wednesday night service, we have prayer requests and a prayer time. Fewer specials (singers), maybe one, and a shorter song service, and then a sermon on whatever God laid on the pastors heart. Could be a Bible study type sermon or a rip into you type sermon. It's just church on Wednesday, I don't think it makes us crazy.
 
It really depends on where you are.

Religious attacks usually only fly uninhibited on the internet.

If you tried to group religious people together in a negative way where I used to live, you would get your ass whooped or receive the scorn of the whole community. Of course, that's the South.
 
Originally posted by: theprodigalrebel
Originally posted by: MetalMat
Thats fine, but if you come over to my place and see porn and a bong don't complain about it like my buddy did.
Oh yeah, when I started smoking pot it really irked some of my friends. I told them God can't be a cruel power-tripping nut to torture people for eternity simply because they smoked some pot.

They never quite got my point. /shrug

Wow...friends concerned that you're in possession of and using an illegal substance....what kind of assholes are they?
 
Originally posted by: MartyMcFly3
My best friend in high school at the time was atheist. He and I got along swimmingly. He then went into the Marines and was shipped overseas. Because of this ordeal, he found religion while overseas. This wouldnt be a big deal but now everything that I do that goes against Catholicism (im Catholic) or Christianity according to him means that I am below what a human should be. Apparently I am now the scum of the earth and don't deserve to call myself Christian because of my actions. It really hurt our friendship now that he's found religion, and I am saddened by it. I basically lost my best friend, so I know how you feel OP.

He apparently missed the part where Jesus accepted everyone. It's amazing how people can claim to believe in Him and then miss the whole freaking point.
 
Originally posted by: JS80
Originally posted by: MartyMcFly3
My best friend in high school at the time was atheist. He and I got along swimmingly. He then went into the Marines and was shipped overseas. Because of this ordeal, he found religion while overseas. This wouldnt be a big deal but now everything that I do that goes against Catholicism (im Catholic) or Christianity according to him means that I am below what a human should be. Apparently I am now the scum of the earth and don't deserve to call myself Christian because of my actions. It really hurt our friendship now that he's found religion, and I am saddened by it. I basically lost my best friend, so I know how you feel OP.

He apparently missed the part where Jesus accepted everyone. It's amazing how people can claim to believe in Him and then miss the whole freaking point.

Actually, there is a verse in the Bible which says that those who call themselves followers of Jesus but do not follow His example (don't repent, don't try to do what they are suppsoed to, etc.) - it says with these people, do not even drink.

Someone who claims to be a Christian but is still willingly living contrary to what is taught - this is not a good thing. Why claim to be something you aren't?

Here you go:

But realize this, that in the last days difficult times will come. For men will be lovers of self, lovers of money, boastful, arrogant, revilers, disobedient to parents, ungrateful, unholy, unloving, irreconcilable, malicious gossips, without self-control, brutal, haters of good, treacherous, reckless, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, holding to a form of godliness, although they have denied its power; Avoid such men as these. (2 Timothy 3:1-5)

But now I am writing you that you must not associate with anyone who calls himself a brother but is sexually immoral or greedy, an idolater or a slanderer, a drunkard or a swindler. With such a man do not even eat. (1 Corinthians 5:11)
 
Originally posted by: OdiN
Originally posted by: JS80
Originally posted by: MartyMcFly3
My best friend in high school at the time was atheist. He and I got along swimmingly. He then went into the Marines and was shipped overseas. Because of this ordeal, he found religion while overseas. This wouldnt be a big deal but now everything that I do that goes against Catholicism (im Catholic) or Christianity according to him means that I am below what a human should be. Apparently I am now the scum of the earth and don't deserve to call myself Christian because of my actions. It really hurt our friendship now that he's found religion, and I am saddened by it. I basically lost my best friend, so I know how you feel OP.

He apparently missed the part where Jesus accepted everyone. It's amazing how people can claim to believe in Him and then miss the whole freaking point.

Actually, there is a verse in the Bible which says that those who call themselves followers of Jesus but do not follow His example (don't repent, don't try to do what they are suppsoed to, etc.) - it says with these people, do not even drink.

Someone who claims to be a Christian but is still willingly living contrary to what is taught - this is not a good thing. Why claim to be something you aren't?

If I had a friend who "strayed away" I would not downgrade him to sub human status and see him as scum. That was what I was getting at.
 
Originally posted by: JS80
Originally posted by: OdiN
Originally posted by: JS80
Originally posted by: MartyMcFly3
My best friend in high school at the time was atheist. He and I got along swimmingly. He then went into the Marines and was shipped overseas. Because of this ordeal, he found religion while overseas. This wouldnt be a big deal but now everything that I do that goes against Catholicism (im Catholic) or Christianity according to him means that I am below what a human should be. Apparently I am now the scum of the earth and don't deserve to call myself Christian because of my actions. It really hurt our friendship now that he's found religion, and I am saddened by it. I basically lost my best friend, so I know how you feel OP.

He apparently missed the part where Jesus accepted everyone. It's amazing how people can claim to believe in Him and then miss the whole freaking point.

Actually, there is a verse in the Bible which says that those who call themselves followers of Jesus but do not follow His example (don't repent, don't try to do what they are suppsoed to, etc.) - it says with these people, do not even drink.

Someone who claims to be a Christian but is still willingly living contrary to what is taught - this is not a good thing. Why claim to be something you aren't?

If I had a friend who "strayed away" I would not downgrade him to sub human status and see him as scum. That was what I was getting at.

Nor should you - but say I were to call myself a Christian but would continue to pickup prostitutes or something. Imagine someone you know seeing you do that, knowing you call yourself a Christian - not exactly the example you want to give to others.

But yes there is the whole hate the sin, love the sinner thing as well. But I can see where the guy is coming from, though in this case probably a bit misguided.
 
Originally posted by: JS80
Originally posted by: MartyMcFly3
My best friend in high school at the time was atheist. He and I got along swimmingly. He then went into the Marines and was shipped overseas. Because of this ordeal, he found religion while overseas. This wouldnt be a big deal but now everything that I do that goes against Catholicism (im Catholic) or Christianity according to him means that I am below what a human should be. Apparently I am now the scum of the earth and don't deserve to call myself Christian because of my actions. It really hurt our friendship now that he's found religion, and I am saddened by it. I basically lost my best friend, so I know how you feel OP.

He apparently missed the part where Jesus accepted everyone. It's amazing how people can claim to believe in Him and then miss the whole freaking point.

Luke 19:27
"But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me."

Yep jesus sure accepted everyone. :disgust:
 
One could argue that "normal" religious people create an accepting atmosphere for religion that enables the nutjobs to exist without much resistance.
 
Originally posted by: ICRS
Originally posted by: JS80
Originally posted by: MartyMcFly3
My best friend in high school at the time was atheist. He and I got along swimmingly. He then went into the Marines and was shipped overseas. Because of this ordeal, he found religion while overseas. This wouldnt be a big deal but now everything that I do that goes against Catholicism (im Catholic) or Christianity according to him means that I am below what a human should be. Apparently I am now the scum of the earth and don't deserve to call myself Christian because of my actions. It really hurt our friendship now that he's found religion, and I am saddened by it. I basically lost my best friend, so I know how you feel OP.

He apparently missed the part where Jesus accepted everyone. It's amazing how people can claim to believe in Him and then miss the whole freaking point.

Luke 19:27
"But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me."

Yep jesus sure accepted everyone. :disgust:

Hooray for taking things out of context. Jesus didn't say that, meaning it literally, it was part of a parable.

The whole thing is basically about faith, and the last part (which you quoted without the entire preceding story it is a part of) is basically saying that those who do not accept Christ will not enter heaven.
 
Originally posted by: Taejin
Originally posted by: Cogman
Boy its hard to be friends with atheist people.

They are always *concerned* that you are a sheeple and try to disprove what you believe it. I just tell them that I am mormon and they go all crazy about it.

Anybody else deal with this?

The problems not with the religion, it is with the person. Get more understanding friends rather then complain about them worrying for your soul.

pretty sure its the religious folk who are proselytizing, not the atheists..you know, since we don't actually believe in a religion

Please, the millitant athiest anti-religion has zealots as fervent as any religion. And I classify atheism as a religion. A group of people with beliefs in common, in this case, believing there is no God.

I am a religeous individual, but I dont push it on friends, enemies, coworkers, the mailman, ect. If someone asks, I'll tell them. If they want to engage in inteligent debate, Ill be more than happy to listen to their side as long as they give me the same courtesy. Thats why I usually stay away from the religion threads here, as it turns into all those who think being atheist and putting the religeous down is the cool thing to do.
 
Originally posted by: OdiN
Originally posted by: ICRS
Originally posted by: JS80
Originally posted by: MartyMcFly3
My best friend in high school at the time was atheist. He and I got along swimmingly. He then went into the Marines and was shipped overseas. Because of this ordeal, he found religion while overseas. This wouldnt be a big deal but now everything that I do that goes against Catholicism (im Catholic) or Christianity according to him means that I am below what a human should be. Apparently I am now the scum of the earth and don't deserve to call myself Christian because of my actions. It really hurt our friendship now that he's found religion, and I am saddened by it. I basically lost my best friend, so I know how you feel OP.

He apparently missed the part where Jesus accepted everyone. It's amazing how people can claim to believe in Him and then miss the whole freaking point.

Luke 19:27
"But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me."

Yep jesus sure accepted everyone. :disgust:

Hooray for taking things out of context. Jesus didn't say that, meaning it literally, it was part of a parable.

The whole thing is basically about faith, and the last part (which you quoted without the entire preceding story it is a part of) is basically saying that those who do not accept Christ will not enter heaven.

Are you an Xtian?
 
Originally posted by: ICRS
Originally posted by: OdiN
Originally posted by: ICRS
Originally posted by: JS80
Originally posted by: MartyMcFly3
My best friend in high school at the time was atheist. He and I got along swimmingly. He then went into the Marines and was shipped overseas. Because of this ordeal, he found religion while overseas. This wouldnt be a big deal but now everything that I do that goes against Catholicism (im Catholic) or Christianity according to him means that I am below what a human should be. Apparently I am now the scum of the earth and don't deserve to call myself Christian because of my actions. It really hurt our friendship now that he's found religion, and I am saddened by it. I basically lost my best friend, so I know how you feel OP.

He apparently missed the part where Jesus accepted everyone. It's amazing how people can claim to believe in Him and then miss the whole freaking point.

Luke 19:27
"But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me."

Yep jesus sure accepted everyone. :disgust:

Hooray for taking things out of context. Jesus didn't say that, meaning it literally, it was part of a parable.

The whole thing is basically about faith, and the last part (which you quoted without the entire preceding story it is a part of) is basically saying that those who do not accept Christ will not enter heaven.

Are you an Xtian?

What is an Xtian? I'm not familiar with that term.
 
Originally posted by: OdiN
Originally posted by: ICRS
Originally posted by: OdiN
Originally posted by: ICRS
Originally posted by: JS80
Originally posted by: MartyMcFly3
My best friend in high school at the time was atheist. He and I got along swimmingly. He then went into the Marines and was shipped overseas. Because of this ordeal, he found religion while overseas. This wouldnt be a big deal but now everything that I do that goes against Catholicism (im Catholic) or Christianity according to him means that I am below what a human should be. Apparently I am now the scum of the earth and don't deserve to call myself Christian because of my actions. It really hurt our friendship now that he's found religion, and I am saddened by it. I basically lost my best friend, so I know how you feel OP.

He apparently missed the part where Jesus accepted everyone. It's amazing how people can claim to believe in Him and then miss the whole freaking point.

Luke 19:27
"But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me."

Yep jesus sure accepted everyone. :disgust:

Hooray for taking things out of context. Jesus didn't say that, meaning it literally, it was part of a parable.

The whole thing is basically about faith, and the last part (which you quoted without the entire preceding story it is a part of) is basically saying that those who do not accept Christ will not enter heaven.

Are you an Xtian?

What is an Xtian? I'm not familiar with that term.

An Xtian is what people call Christians.
 
Originally posted by: ICRS
Originally posted by: OdiN
Originally posted by: ICRS
Originally posted by: OdiN
Originally posted by: ICRS
Originally posted by: JS80
Originally posted by: MartyMcFly3
My best friend in high school at the time was atheist. He and I got along swimmingly. He then went into the Marines and was shipped overseas. Because of this ordeal, he found religion while overseas. This wouldnt be a big deal but now everything that I do that goes against Catholicism (im Catholic) or Christianity according to him means that I am below what a human should be. Apparently I am now the scum of the earth and don't deserve to call myself Christian because of my actions. It really hurt our friendship now that he's found religion, and I am saddened by it. I basically lost my best friend, so I know how you feel OP.

He apparently missed the part where Jesus accepted everyone. It's amazing how people can claim to believe in Him and then miss the whole freaking point.

Luke 19:27
"But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me."

Yep jesus sure accepted everyone. :disgust:

Hooray for taking things out of context. Jesus didn't say that, meaning it literally, it was part of a parable.

The whole thing is basically about faith, and the last part (which you quoted without the entire preceding story it is a part of) is basically saying that those who do not accept Christ will not enter heaven.

Are you an Xtian?

What is an Xtian? I'm not familiar with that term.

An Xtian is what people call Christians.

Perhaps you, but I've never heard anyone else say that.
 
Grouping religious people together makes it easier for the rest of us to know which ones to kill when judgment day arrives. After all, armageddon is the religious people's fault for coming up with the damn idea to begin with.
 
Originally posted by: RichardE
I have people that are friend with me and I go to church and am pretty active in that community. I also drink with them and party though so meh.

when I was in Youth Group through High School, my peers were drunks/stoners. sometimes both. I actually didn't indulge in anything until college, but we all got along great.

It's funny, several of us are still the best of friends, and I think some 98% of my current friends come from that same group. None of us are religious. We were pretty much there for the girls. (Those who came up after us were into the whole "God thing." Bleh 😛)

Some of the best years of my life 😉

...of course, we occasionally interacted with other Youth groups that were quite different. Needless to say, we never quite got along with such groups.
 
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