Boy, Canada's Olympic team is a joke.

[MercenaryForHire]

Originally posted by: Aelius
I have lost plenty of arguments to know who walks away without a scratch and who walks away with a pie in the face.

I see no proof of conclusive, serious, victory-declared ownage from either side, frankly. 😛

- M4H

 

[JulesMaximus]

They should call it the Indoor Olympics.

 

[Stunt]

"Please tell me why you decided to bring up a UN quality of life report. I think the only explanation is blind nationalism."

Brought it up briefly to show that standings in the olympics are irrelevant to what really matter in life. Again this was a brief comment, the other 90% of the post was ignored. You know the main point/motive of the post, thanks for not addressing this.

"This is a good first step for you to cure your raging blind nationalism within you. You see, it's not so bad to say that Hawaii has warmer weather than Canada. There is no point in saying 'RAWWWWR Canada has a larger land mass though!!!!1!' and acting like a crazy patriot."

Put words in my mouth why don't you, this suspiciously looks like you want me to be nationalistic...sorry rabid as much as you want me to be...too bad.

which false comment or lie did i mention here that you felt you should come police?...and is it really relevant to the discussion, if not you are thread crapping.

"I'm actually focusing on your 'mommy mommy look at the UN life report and forget about the olympics' comment."

Again, i did not say this, it was a mere aside to my original post to this thread.

 

[Stunt]

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Nice that you omitted your last comment, Stunt.

So yeah, that is how i see the olympics standings. I hope Canada wins more medals, but what is the difference anyways? We are still ranked higher than the most countries in terms of UN's standard of living survey. This applies to over 30 million people not a select few athletes.

Hilarious. Please comment further on this and its importance in relation to the Olympics.

My comment was an aside askingwhy the medal standings really matter. This is a core issue in the original post, it questions the whole tread topic itself. I tried to subtly give an example of a ranking system that is important an should be considered when comparing countries.

The other 90% of my post is what i would have liked to have a discussion on. Until you nit picked and crapped all over the thread.

Thank you, you succeed in doing this yet again, go get a life.

 

[RabidMongoose]

Brought it up briefly to show that standings in the olympics are irrelevant to what really matter in life. Again this was a brief comment, the other 90% of the post was ignored. You know the main point/motive of the post, thanks for not addressing this.

Hilarious excuse for bringing up a UN quality of life report! Is this going to be your excuse for everything now?

My comments concerning you were only based on that comment.

Put words in my mouth why don't you, this suspiciously looks like you want me to be nationalistic...sorry rabid as much as you want me to be...too bad.

I wish you weren't so nationalistic. Why would anyone want someone to be a raging blind nationalist?

which false comment or lie did i mention here that you felt you should come police?...and is it really relevant to the discussion, if not you are thread crapping.

Nice selective reading you've got there Stunty boy. I said "you frequently post hilarious, incorrect and false comments/lies that often need to be discussed"...in this case you posted a hilarious comment. Your previous lies have been that Canada was not involved with the Korean War, refusing to acknowledge your own sources that you used in previous threads, lying about Canada's GDP, and so on. You have a bad history...

 

It wasn't even close. I have lost plenty of arguments to know who walks away without a scratch and who walks away with a pie in the face.

Only scratch I got was being called for trolling, which was true (you can't avoid it since you troll the second you reply to either one of your posts). You two however just never stop giving free ammo.

I suggest you stay away from rougher forums.

Cheers.

Rougher forums? I'm a seasoned veteran, but thanks for your concern. I know your bleeding Canadian heart cares about my well-being. 😉
Free ammo is called leaving something open expecting a retort, so the discussion can continue. In a dicussion like this there is no way to just end it in one post, it can't happen and it wouldn't be fun!

stunt: Make love not war!

 

[imported_Aelius]

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire

Originally posted by: Aelius
I have lost plenty of arguments to know who walks away without a scratch and who walks away with a pie in the face.

I see no proof of conclusive, serious, victory-declared ownage from either side, frankly. 😛

- M4H

If I could say what I want then God be with them for no one else will.

Sad fact is you can't get heavy ownage posts on this forum without getting banned and frankly they aren't worth it and neither are you.

*ouch*

Ok that's enough for one day. 😀

 

[Stunt]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
They should call it the Indoor Olympics.

I do like the fact that swimming is held with no roof, the natural light is quite attractive and makes for great photography.

Anybody know if it is a incomplete building/retractable roof or meant to stay open?

I'd hate for it to be like Montreal's Olympic Stadium. That olympics was sooo poorly managed it isn't even funny. Hopefully Vancouver/Whitsler in 2010 is better run...Unforunately BC has a horrid track record of spending public money.

Olympics these days are becoming harder and harder to manage. A lot of venues are needed, transportation, security, housing, etc.

A fine line to walk. I think Sydney came out of it ok did it not?

 

[RabidMongoose]

Originally posted by: Stunt
My comment was an aside askingwhy the medal standings really matter. This is a core issue in the original post, it questions the whole tread topic itself. I tried to subtly give an example of a ranking system that is important an should be considered when comparing countries.

The other 90% of my post is what i would have liked to have a discussion on. Until you nit picked and crapped all over the thread.

Thank you, you succeed in doing this yet again, go get a life.

Nice to see that you now admit to being a troll. What a great idea, Stunt. How about you post the UN quality of life list in every single thread now? You know, since every thread is useless as the only important thing in life is a UN report.

Call me crazy, but a thread about the Olympics should be about the Olympics, not the UN. Too bad you had to bring your raging nationalism in an attempt to invalidate an entire thread.

 

[toant103]

Originally posted by: iamwiz82

Originally posted by: Skoorb
Wow, one bronze. Whoop dee doo! Australia, a country 2/3 the population, has 14 medals and Canada has a medal in syncro diving. Freaking North Korea has 3 medals, and even Cuba has 4. Great Britain is another one to keep your eye out for, and drink your sorrows away, as the GB athletes probably do too often (60 million people in the country and they can only produce two medals so far). I know that Canada does better in the winter olympics, but their summer program really needs to be taken outside and have some sense beaten into it. It makes me wish I had been an athlete, so that it wouldn't be so shameful, and maybe I could have won a medal 😀

Medal Standings

Let us not forget that Canada is tied with Mongolia.

play nice

 

[imported_Aelius]

Originally posted by: SampSon

It wasn't even close. I have lost plenty of arguments to know who walks away without a scratch and who walks away with a pie in the face.

Only scratch I got was being called for trolling, which was true (you can't avoid it since you troll the second you reply to either one of your posts). You two however just never stop giving free ammo.

I suggest you stay away from rougher forums.

Cheers.

Rougher forums? I'm a seasoned veteran, but thanks for your concern. I know your bleeding Canadian heart cares about my well-being. 😉
Free ammo is called leaving something open expecting a retort, so the discussion can continue. In a dicussion like this there is no way to just end it in one post, it can't happen and it wouldn't be fun!

stunt: Make love not war!

You'r welcome to try to find an open wound anywhere in what I said at anytime. (for fun, and I won't fight back either)

Good luck.

P.S. If you call this seasoned then I will take my meat extra crispy please with a side order of salad. 😀:beer:

 

[Stunt]

"I wish you weren't so nationalistic. Why would anyone want someone to be a raging blind nationalist?"

I have no idea, you are putting words in my mouth i didn't say. I'm lost on your reasoning, i'm just trying to discuss the OP, what are you doing?

"in this case you posted a hilarious comment."

I'm glad you found it funny, have a laugh and leave you are not contributing to the discussion. Thanks.

"Your previous lies have been that Canada was not involved with the Korean War, refusing to acknowledge your own sources that you used in previous threads, lying about Canada's GDP, and so on. You have a bad history..."

What does Korean War have to do with olympics, this is HILARIOUS!...sigh...draggin out discussions from months ago just proves a point i made a few posts back: get a life.

 

[RabidMongoose]

Originally posted by: Stunt
"I wish you weren't so nationalistic. Why would anyone want someone to be a raging blind nationalist?"

I have no idea, you are putting words in my mouth i didn't say. I'm lost on your reasoning, i'm just trying to discuss the OP, what are you doing?

"in this case you posted a hilarious comment."

I'm glad you found it funny, have a laugh and leave you are not contributing to the discussion. Thanks.

"Your previous lies have been that Canada was not involved with the Korean War, refusing to acknowledge your own sources that you used in previous threads, lying about Canada's GDP, and so on. You have a bad history..."

What does Korean War have to do with olympics, this is HILARIOUS!...sigh...draggin out discussions from months ago just proves a point i made a few posts back: get a life.

but..but..the UN quality of life report invalidates all thread topics from now on!

 

[MercenaryForHire]

Originally posted by: Aelius
If I could say what I want then God be with them for no one else will.

Sad fact is you can't get heavy ownage posts on this forum without getting banned and frankly they aren't worth it and neither are you.

*ouch*

Ok that's enough for one day. 😀

So basically, you'd call them a nasty name, but your Mommy would spank you? :roll:

- M4H

 

[CanOWorms]

It's because of the Canadian Queen. The athletes have her in mind over their athletic performance. Another example of monarchies destroying society's potential!

 

[Stunt]

rabid...cool it on the one comment and the personal attacks, come back to the OP and comment on this perhaps?

"If you want an explaination as to why the results in the olympics are as they are, here it is:

Canada:
We don't have the climate to encourage the types of sports offered in the olympics currently. This is why we do well in the winter sports, not so much the summer. Unlike the US we do not give scholarships to athletes coming out of highschool, we value academic performace over sports. Getting sponsors here is much more difficult because our companies are smaller and cannot afford to support a nation of athletes to train. Most olympians from canada cannot afford to live for this reason, they must hold down jobs on the side and cannot train as much as the average american athlete. Also the US has ten times our population.

Australia:
Australia's country recently had an olympics, including preparation time, this is almost a decade of the nation creating celebrities out of athletes, this encourages more kids ot get into competition. Also Australia's climate is very forgiving with regards to climate...stick them on skates and skiis and see what happens. Interesting side note: Australia's head swimming coach is the fired Canadian coach and he is willing to come back and serve his country under certain conditions. (we all saw how the aussies did in swimming)

Europe:
A much more left wing approach to politics, this allows for greater funding relative to canada and the US (sponsors compensate for this). Athletes are exposed again to the great coaches that the rest of the first world enjoys.

Third World:
Cheap cost of living allows the poorer countries to let their citizens train without working. Also sheer numbers helps this group. It all comes down to coaching, which is usually contracted out from countries like canada, large countries at least."

If you do not have anything to contribute to the OP at hand, you have made your point, thanks for the correction, you can move on to police the rest of the posts that are hilarious, there are lots.

 

[StageLeft]

OK, I'll try and respond to Stunt's first post, to get this back on track 😉

notice that there were 1558 americans sent to the games, 555 canadians

Well, all things considered, one would think that Canada should have around 1/3 the medals...?

We don't have the climate to encourage the types of sports offered in the olympics currently. This is why we do well in the winter sports, not so much the summer.

True.

Australia's country recently had an olympics, including preparation time, this is almost a decade of the nation creating celebrities out of athletes, this encourages more kids ot get into competition.

Perhaps so, but Australia aside, there are still other countries with less money and/or smaller than Canada, that are trouncing it.

A much more left wing approach to politics, this allows for greater funding relative to canada and the US (sponsors compensate for this). Athletes are exposed again to the great coaches that the rest of the first world enjoys.

If gov't influence is so important, wouldn't it make sense that the less socialized US would be at a disadvantage with this?

Cheap cost of living allows the poorer countries to let their citizens train without working. Also sheer numbers helps this group. It all comes down to coaching, which is usually contracted out from countries like canada, large countries at least.

I can't believe that poorer countries are better training grounds for elite athletes than rich ones. Their cost of living is low because so many people are out of work and starving to death, or uneducated. This is not an atmosphere conducive to athletic training. Surely a country in which people are very poor is going to put something as frivolous as the olympics at the bottom of the list? I'm sure that they do, and that's why a lot of these nations have very few athletes at the olympics.

I mean you can look at it from a poor country to a rich one, and athlete is an extreme in no group. It's not even an iceland, compared to all of these other countries being hot summer sport-encouraging countries. Although that definitely has some effect, it doesn't easily explain away Russia, and really more importantly doesn't explain away the fact that Canada's best athletes - and there were a good number sent to these olympics (It's not a tiny group) - are not sufficiently competitive on the world stage.

 

[Stunt]

Originally posted by: CanOWorms
It's because of the Canadian Queen. The athletes have her in mind over their athletic performance. Another example of monarchies destroying society's potential!

Norway rapes the winter olympics, it has a monarch.

 

[imported_Aelius]

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire

Originally posted by: Aelius
If I could say what I want then God be with them for no one else will.

Sad fact is you can't get heavy ownage posts on this forum without getting banned and frankly they aren't worth it and neither are you.

*ouch*

Ok that's enough for one day. 😀

So basically, you'd call them a nasty name, but your Mommy would spank you? :roll:

- M4H

No I wouldn't call them a nasty name. I'm not some crude retard.

There are far more eloquent ways to deal out punishment but knowing some people here they would be on me with the ban bat like a fat kid on smarties.

 

[CanOWorms]

Originally posted by: Stunt

Originally posted by: CanOWorms
It's because of the Canadian Queen. The athletes have her in mind over their athletic performance. Another example of monarchies destroying society's potential!

Norway rapes the winter olympics, it has a monarch.

Makes sense, monarchs are cold and cruel folks.

Actually, maybe the Canadian Queen doesn't like Canada as much or wants to make Australia look much better, so she's forcing the Canadian athletes to perform poorly.

 

[RabidMongoose]

Originally posted by: Stunt
rabid...cool it on the one comment and the personal attacks, come back to the OP and comment on this perhaps?

blah blah blah

If you do not have anything to contribute to the OP at hand, you have made your point, thanks for the correction, you can move on to police the rest of the posts that are hilarious, there are lots.

Again, I'm focusing on your comment now that nothing matters except for the UN quality of life report. You tried to invalidate this entire thread with a UN quality of life report. Nice! Hopefully now you have realized your mistake.

I did contribute to the OP with a post. I mentioned that many of the athletes, such as one from Zimbabwe, are actually living, studying, or train in the US so that makes it a little better for Canada.

 

[Stunt]

Thank you Skoorb, I didn't mean to encourage immature comments by the other members in your thread, i didnt realize posts had to be perfect such that any sentance out of line gets ridiculed like nothing else. Had i known people here were so anal, i'd have edited this out.

Well, all things considered, one would think that Canada should have around 1/3 the medals...?

Or with 10 times the GDP and 10 times the population the US should be sending 5500 athletes, same sort of reasoning.

Perhaps so, but Australia aside, there are still other countries with less money and/or smaller than Canada, that are trouncing it.

Agreed, Canada's performance this round is very poor, i attribute this to having to work and little access to sponsors like americans are.

If gov't influence is so important, wouldn't it make sense that the less socialized US would be at a disadvantage with this?

Oh and it is, just it is countered by the immense money donated by sponsors and colleges. Look at the Atlanta Olympics, it was highly criticized for all the advertising!...US has sooo many corporate sponsors, it isn't even funny. So i guess you could say the companies are compensation for the Gov't.

Their cost of living is low because so many people are out of work and starving to death, or uneducated. This is not an atmosphere conducive to athletic training.

True, that is why they bring in coaches. Starving people are light and run fast 🙂 Also poorer nations do not have the funds to send ALL their athletes.

Although that definitely has some effect, it doesn't easily explain away Russia

Russia has a rich history of gymnasts and again has low cost of living. It's like Canada and hockey, it is already in our culture, there is no shortage of people interested in going into this field.

canada did send a lot of athletes, but if you have the best facilities and an environment that encourages sport (through college, country culture) this is what makes the difference. Canada lacks the funding of our athletes and should encourage professional sports. I do not know anybody who is a professional athlete. They are a dying breed.

Any ideas on how to encourage this without spending massive amounts of money on 'athlete welfare' if you will?....that's an interesting way to analyze the observation you have made about the Canadian team.

 

[ectx]

Anthoer worthless thread.

 

[RabidMongoose]

Or with 10 times the GDP and 10 times the population the US should be sending 5500 athletes, same sort of reasoning.

Actually countries have the opportunity to only send a limited number of athletes. As in the US can only send in one basketball team even though it's population is 10x more than Canada. The US couldn't send 5500 athletes just as China can't send 20,000.

I can't believe that poorer countries are better training grounds for elite athletes than rich ones.

I would imagine that a large amount of the 'poorer countries' have athletes that train elsewhere. You brought up Zimbabwe - I believe their silver medalist actually lives and trains and studies in the US.

 

[CanOWorms]

Originally posted by: Stunt

Well, all things considered, one would think that Canada should have around 1/3 the medals...?

Or with 10 times the GDP and 10 times the population the US should be sending 5500 athletes, same sort of reasoning.

I think there's an upper limit to the number of athletes you can send since there isn't an infinite number of events.

Perhaps so, but Australia aside, there are still other countries with less money and/or smaller than Canada, that are trouncing it.

Agreed, Canada's performance this round is very poor, i attribute this to having to work and little access to sponsors like americans are.

So why do other countries have access to sponsors? Do you have any links to this having to work thing? I think most of the Olympic athletes in any country work. Many of them are still in school, too. I read an article about this recently regarding many of the Olympic athletes.

Their cost of living is low because so many people are out of work and starving to death, or uneducated. This is not an atmosphere conducive to athletic training.

True, that is why they bring in coaches. Starving people are light and run fast 🙂 Also poorer nations do not have the funds to send ALL their athletes.

Poorer nations do horrible overall at the Olympics, like Canada. But Canada isn't poor!