OK, I read through the link again (if you happen to care). Yeah, the site makes some good points. Moore used some pretty shady editing, particularly with the Heston stuff.
This is Moore's stock and trade. Nothing he has done, including his 'celebrated' "Roger and Me", is done without resorting to this kind of deception.
However, nothing I read on that site made me go "Michael LIED to me! His points are so wrong, his facts are way off!" Eh...no.
That's because you don't know any better.
As with all masters of deception, Moore rarely comes straight out and lies in a way which would leave him vulnerable to being pinned down hard on the issue, although I will show in a moment that Moore does in fact tell a bold-face lie on occassion. Instead, Moore relies upon regurgitating other people's lies. This way, he can say "Hey, this wasn't mine, I'm just the messenger."
A classic example is Moore's repeated regurgitation of an accusation against the Bush Administration which has made exhaustive rounds among the counterculture and socialist medias from which Moore pilfers 90% of his material. Not even four days after the terrorist attacks on New York and Washington, before even the last survivor had been pulled from the rubble,
Moore wrote in an almost unintelligible screed that placed blame squarely at the feet of the Bush Administration,
"Back in May, you gave the Taliban in Afghanistan $48 million dollars of our tax money. No free nation on earth would give them a cent, but you gave them a gift of $48 million because they said they had 'banned all drugs'."
Moore rarely ever cites his sources, for very good reason (they're always from highly questionable sources and usually inaccurate), but 90% of his information can be traced back to the counterculture and socialist medias he so fervently loves. So after a little research, I found the source of this claim.
It was originally written by
Bush-hating pundit Robert Scheer in an LA Times column entitled
Bush's Faustian Deal with the Taliban. Except Scheer put the number at $43 million, not $48 million. Moore can be found regurgitating this claim using a few different numbers. Faulty memory? Sure, whatever.
The reason you have to look elsewhere than the LA Times for this column is because it has since been retracted by the LA Times after
other publications began to print corrections and retractions:
"The Enemy With a Thousand Faces," published Sept 13, 2001, originally stated that the Taliban received $43 million from the United States to reward it for condemning opium growing as anti-Islamic. In fact, the United States aid did not go to the Taliban but to international aid organizations and NGOs. [Correction made 10/03/01]
Even Salon's correction only tells half the truth. Not only did the Taliban not see one red cent of the US State Department's $43 million humanitarian gift, it was not gifted as a reward to the Taliban for its efforts to combat drugs (opium production).
I could prove that Scheer's 'mistake' was a willfull lie, since Scheer
cites an announcement by Colin Powell himself as the source of his information, when in fact, Colin Powell, during that very same public announcement, specifically emphasized that aid from the US "bypasses the Taliban", but this isn't about Robert Scheer's proven penchant for lying (its about Moore's proven penchant for basing his positions in other people's lies).
I promised to show that Moore tells a bold-face lie from time to time, and I wouldn't think of disappointing you, my boy.
As we have all heard Moore tell it over and over, Moore's hometown is Flint, Michigan. Hey, what a coincidence, so is mine. So it came as quite a surprise to many Flint natives including myself, errr...well...ok. It didn't
really come as a surprise to Flint natives or myself. We've long been accustomed to Moore's lying and distortion of the truth. After all, while "Roger and Me" was a phenomenal hit elsewhere, it bombed in Flint and I mean badly.
Average Flint natives sunk in their seats as they watched Moore distort the record, exploiting Flint's misery for his own personal gain and to promote his far-left views, but mainly to line his own pockets. In the theatre I was in, approximately 30 people became so nauseated by Moore's treatment of an experience that was personal to them, they walked-out of the theatre. A typical reaction, according to many who were there.
But audiences elsewhere, knowing nothing of Flint, blissfully lapped it up in ignorance, as entertaining as Moore can be with his staged pranks and muck-raking ambushes. Oh, yes, let's not forget his masterful film and audio editing to create magical feats of anachronistic story-telling (with special emphasis on
story-telling). But I digress...
In his usual fashion of seizing upon a tragedy to dance in the blood of the victims for his own gain, Moore - a Flint native -
wrote in another nearly unintelligible screed only two days after 6 year-old Kayla Rolland was killed by a classmate,
"You have probably heard that this school shooting took place out in the 'suburbs,' in a place called 'Mount Morris Township'... 'somewhere near Flint.'
There is no such place [as Mount Morris Township]."
Moore has repeated this assertion elsewhere in speeches and interviews - 'no such place as Mount Morris Township, it doesn't exist.'
Well, Moore should know, right? After all, he's a Flint native. I mean, if Moore were wrong, and there was in fact 'such a place', he couldn't possibly be so uninformed about an area which he misses no opportunity to claim as his hometown, could he?
In fact, Mount Morris Township was
granted a charter by the Michigan Legislature in 1855, 19 years after the City of Flint itself was founded. Mount Morris Township
has a fire department. Mount Morris Township has an elected supervisor and other officials. Mount Morris Township
has a long history as it was one of the earliest townships in Genessee County.
The Detroit Free Press was
kind enough to provide a portion of a map showing the clear and age-old delineation between Flint and Mount Morris Township.
You cannot possibly claim to be born and raised in Flint, Michigan, while insisting there is no Mount Morris Township. It would be like claiming to have been born and raised in Detroit and insisting there is no Woodward Avenue.
So Moore is either lying about Flint being his hometown, as he mentions three or four times every week, or Moore is lying - not mistaken - but lying about the existance of Mount Morris Township.
No motive is required for being mistaken, but let's explore what Moore's motive for lying about Mount Morris Township could possibly be. Grace Lee Boggs, Moore's fellow leftwing kook,
sheds some light on the matter [and gives proper attribution to Moore]:
"In an article written the day after the tragedy (available on
www.michaelmoore.com), Moore, a Flint native, informs us that "there is no such place" as Mt. Morris Township...Buell Elementary School is in the Flint Beecher school district, and has a Flint address and a Flint phone number.
But Flint officials, in collusion with GM, deny that Beecher is in Flint, which has been known as Buick City. They want to dissociate GM from the devastation and violence that have overtaken the city since the Buick plant closed down."
Boy what a whopper! Of course, nobody but Greater Flint natives are going to spot the load of crap Ms. Boggs and Moore are trying to shovel.
It is all some big conspiracy, dating back to 1855 when the Michigan Legislature, magically predicting the economic and social demise of Flint nearly 150 years later, created Mount Morris Township so that Flint officials, who wouldn't be born for at least another 100 years, could deny that Beecher and Mount Morris were part of Flint...all to protect GM's reputation! WOW!
Just some of Moore's usual distortions and fabrications that he perfected in "Roger and Me".
Yeah, he presented them in a sensationalistic way, picking and choosing things just so, but I still agree with a lot of the points he made.
That's because you're either:
- A dimwitted fool who doesn't know a scoundrel and a liar when he is being deceived by one
- Too proud to admit when you're wrong
- Every bit as much of a lying sociopath as Moore
Do you not see how much of a fool you're making of yourself?
'Ok, big deal, so nothing Moore says is truthful or accurate. I still agree with him.'
Suit yourself, JohnJohn. I and others have proven more than enough to convince any
honest half-wit about the credibility of Moore's "good points" and his support for them.
Pop some more Benadryl and blissfully carry on with your mushy-headed ignorance. That's the way deceivers such as Michael Moore like you.
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