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Bountiful Utah 1/21/2012, VERY SLICK ROADS. Meyhem caught on camera

lol

i see a lot of people (from the looks of it) going far to fast for that road. Though i suspect it wouldn't matter.

We had to drive into chicago sunday for my daughters gymanstics tourny. We seen 5 vehicles in the ditch. 4 of them were 4x4 trucks or suv's.
 
waggy said:
lol

i see a lot of people (from the looks of it) going far to fast for that road. Though i suspect it wouldn't matter.

We had to drive into chicago sunday for my daughters gymanstics tourny. We seen 5 vehicles in the ditch. 4 of them were 4x4 trucks or suv's.
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Yes, I'm always amused by drivers that believe 4-wheel drive can magically create friction where none exists.
 
People fear teh ice and shit, and yeah, black ice can be scary... but I'll tell you as an experienced driver from upstate New York, there's absolutely NOTHING worse to drive on than a couple inches of that heavy, wet slushy shit on the road. You can't drive on it, you can't stop on it, you can't steer on it. That's what this shit is.
 
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i love videos like that. so many people who just have to go out when its a snowstorm and think they can handle it. if its weather like that you just plain stay home.
 
lol @ the White Cavalier still covered in snow at around 2 minutes into the video, pretty much does a 360 and comes out of it undamaged.
 
SunnyD said:
People fear teh ice and shit, and yeah, black ice can be scary... but I'll tell you as an experienced driver from upstate New York, there's absolutely NOTHING worse to drive on than a couple inches of that heavy, wet slushy shit on the road. You can't drive on it, you can't stop on it, you can't steer on it. That's what this shit is.
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As a guy from North Dakota, yeah roads can be pretty bad, but how can a street be that bad? Or is it inexperienced drivers? Different cement than what we use here? Not all-weather tires? I have a basic FWD 4-door sedan and I get around just fine, even in our absolute worst conditions.

There's so many videos like this on the web - I just can't help but wonder _what_ makes it so different or if it's all of the reasons I mentioned above. I see people spinning their tires like mad and turning their wheels the wrong way, so I'm sure experience has some play in these recordings.
 
SunnyD said:
People fear teh ice and shit, and yeah, black ice can be scary... but I'll tell you as an experienced driver from upstate New York, there's absolutely NOTHING worse to drive on than a couple inches of that heavy, wet slushy shit on the road. You can't drive on it, you can't stop on it, you can't steer on it. That's what this shit is.
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From the looks of it, it may be laying down on some ice as well.
 
SunnyD said:
People fear teh ice and shit, and yeah, black ice can be scary... but I'll tell you as an experienced driver from upstate New York, there's absolutely NOTHING worse to drive on than a couple inches of that heavy, wet slushy shit on the road. You can't drive on it, you can't stop on it, you can't steer on it. That's what this shit is.
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No, "this shit" is a very light dusting of snow on top of solid black ice and that is 1000 times worse than slush.
 
SunnyD said:
People fear teh ice and shit, and yeah, black ice can be scary... but I'll tell you as an experienced driver from upstate New York, there's absolutely NOTHING worse to drive on than a couple inches of that heavy, wet slushy shit on the road. You can't drive on it, you can't stop on it, you can't steer on it. That's what this shit is.
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I'd much rather have heavy, wet snow than black ice. Heavy snow allows traction, black ice allows none.

It looks like some people in the video need to invest in some snow tires... I wouldn't drive without them in any northern states, no matter if its east coast, west coast, or anywhere in between.
 
jamesbond007 said:
As a guy from North Dakota, yeah roads can be pretty bad, but how can a street be that bad? Or is it inexperienced drivers? Different cement than what we use here? Not all-weather tires? I have a basic FWD 4-door sedan and I get around just fine, even in our absolute worst conditions.
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I would have thought better of Utah snow drivers. It seemed like there was a lot of car passing going on when there shouldn't have and just general bad driving (That guy who went flying by even though there were a bunch of accidents on the road)

I also think a lot of people don't bother getting good tires on their cars or replace them often enough. I see people buying shit tires almost every time I go in to replace ours
 
96Firebird said:
I'd much rather have heavy, wet snow than black ice. Heavy snow allows traction, black ice allows none.

It looks like some people in the video need to invest in some snow tires... I wouldn't drive without them in any northern states, no matter if its east coast, west coast, or anywhere in between.
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Heavy wet snow != 2 inches of slush on the road. I too would rather have just heavy wet snow on the road too. But once the stuff underneath is mostly slush, most tires can't channel it away fast enough like it could with water alone, and it doesn't compact and create a surface with traction on it as you drive over it. You're basically driving on the same thing that happens under an ice skater's blade at that point.

Black ice on the other hand, if you hit it and briefly lose traction, big deal. Just don't do anything stupid and you'll keep going straight, let off the gas and as soon as you coast down to a proper speed your tires will stick (even to the ice). That WON'T happen on the type of slush I'm talking about, because the surface your tires are on is constantly moving with you.

I'll agree with most of you guys above me though - these idiots really don't know how to drive. Period.
 
That was more steep then it appears to be. The incline is what was screwing people but ya there was some retards that were going way to fast like that truck.
 
A lot of it is having most drivers being experienced on driving with ice or snow. Go to some Southern States that rarely get ice or snow, and even a inch paralyzes them. While a thousand miles to the North, six inches of snow is handles by those drivers with little problems.

But it only takes a few nuts driving way too fast for the conditions to really screw things up for everybody.
 
From what I saw, many people did not have appropriate tires. I understand the fact that this winter has been shit until 2 days ago, but I still kept winter tires on, whereas many people switched back to summer rubber. Well... that is the result of all sliding.

Note: Whoever said to pump brakes is an idiot.
 
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