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Bought me a new ride. 2010 Mazdaspeed 3

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fleabag said:
quoted for ownage.
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PhoKingGuy said:
I don't get it, last I checked cars only had 4 wheels. The ES has a donut spare so where does the 5th wheel come in
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i've rotated the spare in on my Jeep when I wanted to go to a larger size and wanted a matching spare. other than that, i can't figure out a reason to rotate the spare in, especially since it's extremely rare to have a full size spare on a car, and even more rare for the spare wheel to match the others.

wait, isn't fleabag the troll that is trying to convince ATOT that he inflates his tires to max tire pressure?

nevermind, i will stop feeding the troll and wait for the almighty banhammer to drop.
 
JDub02 said:
i've rotated the spare in on my Jeep when I wanted to go to a larger size and wanted a matching spare. other than that, i can't figure out a reason to rotate the spare in, especially since it's extremely rare to have a full size spare on a car, and even more rare for the spare wheel to match the others.

wait, isn't fleabag the troll that is trying to convince ATOT that he inflates his tires to max tire pressure?

nevermind, i will stop feeding the troll and wait for the almighty banhammer to drop.
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My GTI has a fullsize spare, but it plainly says that its for temporary use only. The only car i've ever seen that had a real tire spare was my aunt's S class Mercedes. But the wheel was mismatched to the other 4 so you wouldnt want to switch it out....
 
fleabag said:
I don't technically own any cars so that would be only a 1 (was done in my automotive tech class back in highschool). However this isn't to say I have limited automotive repair experience, it's just that I haven't done any maintenance items on the cars. I'd say the single task I've done the most frequently (opposed to the one odd time) would be the removal/rotation of tires. In fact, I just rotated all 5 tires on my Dad's ES350 because the dealership forgot to do it.
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Tire rotation is in no way "automotive repair experience." Since you're saying you don't have limited automotive repair experience, why don't you just list what you've done?
 
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looks like a car that only a d-bag would drive.

that said, i like the redesign and want one myself 🙂 nothing like a having a nice car, power, and long drive to melt the stress

gratz
 
PhoKingGuy said:
My GTI has a fullsize spare, but it plainly says that its for temporary use only. The only car i've ever seen that had a real tire spare was my aunt's S class Mercedes. But the wheel was mismatched to the other 4 so you wouldnt want to switch it out....
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Major fail.... The reason why they don't match is because she obviously has never changed that tire, let alone rotated it in.


The ES350 does NOT have a donut but a full size spare that even goes as far as to have a matching rim. The only reason why the tires would not be the same as the other four tires on the car is because the person driving the vehicle isn't aware they're suppose to rotate all 5 tires.
 
fleabag said:
Major fail.... The reason why they don't match is because she obviously has never changed that tire, let alone rotated it in.


The ES350 does NOT have a donut but a full size spare that even goes as far as to have a matching rim. The only reason why the tires would not be the same as the other four tires on the car is because the person driving the vehicle isn't aware they're suppose to rotate all 5 tires.
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Horribly off topic now

The 5th wheel was a different wheel entirely, it did not match the other 4. In addition, it was a different, cheaper tire than what was on the outer 4. Came like that from the factory.

I still dont see why you would rotate all 5 in that case, that just means one tire has significantly more tread than the rest. The service listings for the S class (dealer maintained since they've had it) specify only 4 wheel rotations, the mercedes manual says the same thing.

I trust das krauts more than you
 
PhoKingGuy said:
Horribly off topic now

The 5th wheel was a different wheel entirely, it did not match the other 4. In addition, it was a different, cheaper tire than what was on the outer 4. Came like that from the factory.

I still dont see why you would rotate all 5 in that case, that just means one tire has significantly more tread than the rest. The service listings for the S class (dealer maintained since they've had it) specify only 4 wheel rotations, the mercedes manual says the same thing.

I trust das krauts more than you
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The only question that needs to be answered is, did the rim match the rest of the rims? If the answer is yes, then yes it too needs to be rotated in. Even if the rim doesn't cosmetically match the other rims, it's best to rotate it in so that you get its useful life out of it before you have to replace the tire in its entirety. The possible reason why the tire didn't match the others is because the other tires were replaced shortly after. As for the slightly less worn tire thing, you're suppose to rotate your tires every 5k miles so that isn't an issue. You know it's a full size spare if you're not looking at a "donut", generic spare tire. The Lexus LS series has a full size spare and the Lexus ES350 has a full size spare, the Lexus IS has a donut spare. The majority of the time, people just replace four tires and forget about the 5th wheel which leads to having a 13 year old full size spare which is long past its expiration yet has a full tread life.
 
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JDub02 said:
nice. i wish the speed3 was around in 2006. i would have picked that over my 6 hatch. i was looking at the speed6, but was turned off by the serious lack of storage capacity.
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Ummm... I'm pretty sure you could have picked one up in Fall 05. I had to buy a car in the summer, and was peeved I couldn't wait till the fall. Then again, I'm glad I don't have to buy premium gas =)

I've been tempted to trade in my 05 3 for a 10 speed3, but the feeling of not having a car payment anymore outweighs it be a big margin (that and I need new windows for the home soon). I'm really anxious to see how the Genesis Coupe pans out over the next couple of years. It was really fun to drive at the Hyundai event.
 
zerocool84 said:
It's going to be different with everyone. Depends where you live, your age, and record. It's a boy racer car so it's going to be higher than a regular Mazda 3.
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Mostly women here. I am actually considering a SP23 for my wife. She wants a manual transmission and a hatchback with some 'pep'.
 
fleabag said:
I don't technically own any cars so that would be only a 1 (was done in my automotive tech class back in highschool). However this isn't to say I have limited automotive repair experience, it's just that I haven't done any maintenance items on the cars. I'd say the single task I've done the most frequently (opposed to the one odd time) would be the removal/rotation of tires. In fact, I just rotated all 5 tires on my Dad's ES350 because the dealership forgot to do it.
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yeah i can see where they forgot to rotate the 5th tire...
o and your out of high school??? more insult to injury, i thought you had the maturity of a high schooler, I guess you haven't reached puberty yet...or gotten laid
im pushing it a little haha...done
 
fleabag said:
The only question that needs to be answered is, did the rim match the rest of the rims? If the answer is yes, then yes it too needs to be rotated in. Even if the rim doesn't cosmetically match the other rims, it's best to rotate it in so that you get its useful life out of it before you have to replace the tire in its entirety. The possible reason why the tire didn't match the others is because the other tires were replaced shortly after. As for the slightly less worn tire thing, you're suppose to rotate your tires every 5k miles so that isn't an issue. You know it's a full size spare if you're not looking at a "donut", generic spare tire. The Lexus LS series has a full size spare and the Lexus ES350 has a full size spare, the Lexus IS has a donut spare. The majority of the time, people just replace four tires and forget about the 5th wheel which leads to having a 13 year old full size spare which is long past its expiration yet has a full tread life.
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FYI: "Wheel" and "tire" are not the same thing. Not only did PhoKingGuy guy say that the wheel was different, he also specified that the tire was different. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to understand what he said.

I'm not going to rotate a plain black steel wheel in with the other four tires on my truck. Some of us care about looks.
 
jlee said:
FYI: "Wheel" and "tire" are not the same thing. Not only did PhoKingGuy guy say that the wheel was different, he also specified that the tire was different. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to understand what he said.

I'm not going to rotate a plain black steel wheel in with the other four tires on my truck. Some of us care about looks.
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Rocket science isn't difficult, just expensive. 😉

Some of you do indeed care about looks but when you're spending a good chunk of change on that full size spare just to sit there and rot, maybe you should reconsider some things. One thing you could do is when you go in for a rotation, have them mount and dismount the tire of your choosing and put it on the appropriate rim.

Another solution to a situation where you've got a full size spare with a cheap rim is to just buy a really cheap used tire with little tread wear left and just replace that whenever that tire expires/dry rots, then replace it with another like tire. The idea is to spend as little money on the spare tire as possible while keeping a usable spare in the event you need it. (Don't have a dry rotted tire that you spent a big chunk of change on).
 
fleabag said:
Rocket science isn't difficult, just expensive. 😉

Some of you do indeed care about looks but when you're spending a good chunk of change on that full size spare just to sit there and rot, maybe you should reconsider some things. One thing you could do is when you go in for a rotation, have them mount and dismount the tire of your choosing and put it on the appropriate rim.
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Tire life: 50,000 - 60,000 miles
Tire rotation: 5,000 miles
Number of mounting/balancing required: 20-ish (assuming ten rotations, moving two tires/wheels around each time)
Price per mount/balance: $20 for me, way more for fleabag (what were you saying, $30 or $40?)
Total cost over tire life: $400-800, give or take.

Maybe I'm not the one who should be doing the reconsidering.
 
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Jlee is right, the spare in the merc is a different finish wheel as well as being a different tire. Why don't they? When you spend 100k+ on a car, a 150 tire isnt going to break the bank every 30k miles.

My GTI has 18' directional tires. The spare is a 205/55/R16 steelie, no way in hell is that going to work

My tahoe has a full size spare, but its a black steelie that doesnt match the other wheels. As Jlee said above, new tires only cost 100ish for that car so its not worth it. I just take it off every once in awhile and put some air in it
 
jlee said:
Tire life: 50,000 - 60,000 miles
Tire rotation: 5,000 miles
Number of mounting/balancing required: 20-ish (assuming ten rotations, moving two tires/wheels around each time)
Price per mount/balance: $20 for me, way more for fleabag (what were you saying, $30 or $40?)
Total cost over tire life: $400-800, give or take.

Maybe I'm not the one who should be doing the reconsidering.
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If you buy and mount your tires at Costco, balancing, mounting and rotation are free for the life of the tire. I believe Costco also does repairs on tires you buy from them for free as well.
 
I dig the car, except for that front end. They definitely pulled an Acura with that one. >_<;
Also, the smile isn't as cute as the Mini Cooper.

Otherwise, great car, and I hope you like it. 😀
 
fleabag said:
If you buy and mount your tires at Costco, balancing, mounting and rotation are free for the life of the tire. I believe Costco also does repairs on tires you buy from them for free as well.
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If you expect Costco to swap tires to different wheels every time you go in for a free rotation, you should prepare to get laughed at. You should be used to that by now, though.
 
fleabag said:
If you buy and mount your tires at Costco, balancing, mounting and rotation are free for the life of the tire. I believe Costco also does repairs on tires you buy from them for free as well.
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how often do you mount and balance a tire on a wheel? oh yea once.

oh and i think there's an easier way to rotate the tires without taking them off the wheel.

how do you repair a tire?
 
ok seriously .. stop feeding the troll and arguing with this guy .. the entire thread had been derailed and it's clear he has no idea what he's talking about .. we know it .. he knows it. let's just get back on topic.
 
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