Bought e-cig to quit dipping

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moonbogg

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Yeah I agree with all that. PERHAPS though, after E-cigs become the dominant device and regular cigs are more rare, public awareness will increase about E-cigs and they then might be allowed in restaurants, bars etc. Not too soon though because people simply see smoke and they still equate that to cigarettes and death. I am optimistic.
 

MongGrel

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I personally have a brewery I hang out and has bands and have seen people using them in there.

I have every intention of using mine inside after being run off from places like that I used to play at with in bands years ago.

As I've all ready seen people using them in a couple with no problem I plan to.

A nice restaurant might be a different situation, etc.

The place I work at actually has a no tabacco policy, though they've tended to look away a bit a long time.

One of the reasons I went the E-Cig thing, I think 25% of the people there are using them now, and several were not smokers to begin with, and don't even use nicotine.

They've become pretty much a common thing in the area here.

I won't even talk too much about my wife's work, shes still relatively new there. She has actually moved her work clothes into the guest bedroom closet, as she dresses in there ever morning anyway, but shortly after she started there they smelled smoke on her and had a minor fit.

And she has never smoked a day in her life, I'm trying to help her out here a bit too even though I've been smoking in my house 40 years where ever I have been.
 
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ZOXXO

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sze5003, I think you may have a bit of a misconception as to exactly what a drip tip does for you. A drip tip has become a generic term for what would more aptly be termed a mouthpiece.

Originally a popular type of atomizer looked like this.
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One would insert a cartridge(white plastic pieces pictured above) holding a small amount of liquid into the atomizer piercing the bottom allowing the liquid to slowly feed onto the atomizers coil and draw through the top flat part.

Soon people began to remove the spike in the atomizer and drip liquid directly onto the atomizer coil. Drawing through either the empty cartridge with the bottom cap removed, a flat or duck bill mouthpiece or a round mouthpiece which had a pencil lead sized draw hole.

From this the "drip tip" was born. A drip tip was just a normal round mouthpiece with an enlarged draw hole allowing for one to drip onto the atomizer coil without removing the tip.

Though dripping into the middle stem of a Protank would eventually produce some vapor, one would have gurgling and likely leaking issues. The Protank style tank atomizers are not designed for dripping.

To properly drip through a drip tip or otherwise one needs a rebuildable dripping atomizer(RDA) or a 510 atomizer similar to the one pictured above. If one is not prepared to rebuild coils then the 510 is a better choice as it only requires an occasional dry burn and cleaning. Look for the bridgeless or three hole 510 atomizer to avoid having to pry the spike section from the atomizer.

The odd thing about the term drip tip becoming the most common term for an atomizer's mouthpiece is it is rare to see someone actually drip through one. Most everyone removes the tip on 510 atties and the entire top section on RDAs.

Enjoy The Vape
 

MongGrel

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Thanks for that, I was unfamiliar with the term myself having seen it used here and there.
 

ZOXXO

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I give it 20 years and regular cigs will be kind of rare, at least in some countries.
When I first started to vape and was answering all the inevitable questions from my real life circle of friends I opined that in five years they would see as many ecigs as tobacco cigs in public areas. In ten years more ecigs and in twenty tobacco cigs would be like snuff(not snus) is today. When is the last time you saw someone sniffing a pinch of snuff?

I did throw in the caveat of barring government intervention.

Has already been interesting following the rapid growth of vaping and the political wrangling of public opinion of it.

Vape On
 

MongGrel

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When I first started to vape and was answering all the inevitable questions from my real life circle of friends I opined that in five years they would see as many ecigs as tobacco cigs in public areas. In ten years more ecigs and in twenty tobacco cigs would be like snuff(not snus) is today. When is the last time you saw someone sniffing a pinch of snuff?

I did throw in the caveat of barring government intervention.

Has already been interesting following the rapid growth of vaping and the political wrangling of public opinion of it.

Vape On
Sounds about like me and some of the people I used to work with about the internet just a bit over 20 years ago :)
 

Kwatt

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Could someone explain what the advantages if any are there in the lower or higher ohm ratings?

The ones I am using can be had in either the 1.5 ohm or 2.1 ohm.

I have 2.1 ohm now. That is all the local store carries. I would have to order the 1.5's.

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Phoenix86

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Well as long as the fda doesn't ban ecigs and liquids. In Philly they have been banned in public places such as restaurants and bars because they don't know what the effects of vapor has and how the many liquids are made.

I never really used mine in a restaurant or public place anyway.
That's one of the larger slices of FUD pie I have ever seen.

How many new products are introduced that never get a whiff of public attention and we have no idea what the side effects are. Oh, but if it looks like a cigarette, ban it. Just in case.
 

Squeetard

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Okay, so my starter kit arrived on Wednesday. Charged it up and filled it. 3 hits and I was sold! Tossed my cigars and dip in the garbage. Spent the rest of the night, about 4 hours, taking a puff every minute or 5. I take quite small puffs, about a second, inhale slowly and exhale slowly. Didn't get all jazzed up, fell asleep easily, slept great

Woke up yesterday morning nauseous as fuck. Just the smell of the flavors (I tried 2 flavors, cherry and vanilla, liked them both) made my stomach churn. Did not want nor use the ecig, a cigar or any dip yesterday. Had one small puff last night, didn't make me sick

So, a couple questions.

I have the 24mg nic juice, what is the equivalent of that to real smoke? More or less nic than a cigarette?

How much do you vape yourself, has it ever made you a bit ill?
 

ZOXXO

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Could someone explain what the advantages if any are there in the lower or higher ohm ratings?

The ones I am using can be had in either the 1.5 ohm or 2.1 ohm.

I have 2.1 ohm now. That is all the local store carries. I would have to order the 1.5's.

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Fed the same voltage, provided the wick stays wet, a lower Ω coil will produce a larger amount of warmer vapor but draw more amps thus depleting your battery quicker.
 

sze5003

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Okay, so my starter kit arrived on Wednesday. Charged it up and filled it. 3 hits and I was sold! Tossed my cigars and dip in the garbage. Spent the rest of the night, about 4 hours, taking a puff every minute or 5. I take quite small puffs, about a second, inhale slowly and exhale slowly. Didn't get all jazzed up, fell asleep easily, slept great

Woke up yesterday morning nauseous as fuck. Just the smell of the flavors (I tried 2 flavors, cherry and vanilla, liked them both) made my stomach churn. Did not want nor use the ecig, a cigar or any dip yesterday. Had one small puff last night, didn't make me sick

So, a couple questions.

I have the 24mg nic juice, what is the equivalent of that to real smoke? More or less nic than a cigarette?

How much do you vape yourself, has it ever made you a bit ill?

First few times with high nicotine and puffing away like you did will make you sick. 24mg of actual nicotine is more than 3 times I think a marboro light. At least 12mg is equivalent to light/medium.

I've gotten sick like that before. Lower the nic or use Vg to cut the juices a bit. Also vape a little less.
 

Phoenix86

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First few times with high nicotine and puffing away like you did will make you sick. 24mg of actual nicotine is more than 3 times I think a marboro light. At least 12mg is equivalent to light/medium.

I've gotten sick like that before. Lower the nic or use Vg to cut the juices a bit. Also vape a little less.
You can't equate X mg to Y cigarette. The efficiency of the vaporizer and the length of the draw vary too much.

I wouldn't recommending starting above 18mg for the average person.
 

Squeetard

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So it was too much nic? I didn't get buzzed or anything. Could it have been just too much vapor? It was the smell that made me ill the next day.
 

sze5003

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So it was too much nic? I didn't get buzzed or anything. Could it have been just too much vapor? It was the smell that made me ill the next day.

Maybe the flavors or the pg and Vg is mix. I've been a little nauseous before when I first started.
 

rudeguy

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You can't equate X mg to Y cigarette. The efficiency of the vaporizer and the length of the draw vary too much.

I wouldn't recommending starting above 18mg for the average person.

Yep. Weaker tasting liquids give me a headache. I finally figured out it was because I had to suck so much harder (yea yea) to get a hit I could taste. With the strong menthol I usually use, I don't have to hit very hard at all.
 

moonbogg

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Okay, so my starter kit arrived on Wednesday. Charged it up and filled it. 3 hits and I was sold! Tossed my cigars and dip in the garbage. Spent the rest of the night, about 4 hours, taking a puff every minute or 5. I take quite small puffs, about a second, inhale slowly and exhale slowly. Didn't get all jazzed up, fell asleep easily, slept great

Woke up yesterday morning nauseous as fuck. Just the smell of the flavors (I tried 2 flavors, cherry and vanilla, liked them both) made my stomach churn. Did not want nor use the ecig, a cigar or any dip yesterday. Had one small puff last night, didn't make me sick

So, a couple questions.

I have the 24mg nic juice, what is the equivalent of that to real smoke? More or less nic than a cigarette?

How much do you vape yourself, has it ever made you a bit ill?

I've been vaping 24mg quite a lot for a solid week now. Never felt sick in any way at all. The worst thing that's happening is I lose the ability to taste the smoke because I get used to it, and that sucks, but also my throat has been tender and sore while taking a hit. The 24mg can be harsh I think if vaped a lot. Other than that, no issues. Tossed two full cans of dip in the trash and wasn't bothered by it.
Your nausea does sound familiar and I have experienced nausea at bed time, after dipping late at night. The insane levels of nic right before bed would make me feel like throwing up once I laid down to rest in the dark. Haven't had any of that bullshit happen since vaping and I don't miss it.
 

poofyhairguy

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I got my wife some 24mg at first and she liked it but she said it was too strong for her to use it as much as cigarettes. She said part of the habit was all the action of smoking, so it was hard to quit without an equivalent. So I got her some 11mg and we will see how that goes.
 

moonbogg

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Yeah its time to turn down the nic already. 24mg was good to get me through the first week of not dipping, but I can't enjoy 24mg as much as I want. Going down to 18 very soon.
Good luck with your wife. Let us know how it works out.

EDIT: Tanks are delivered and the rest should be here tomorrow (didn't expect it all so soon, excellent). Can't wait! Just gotta grab some 16 or 18mg juice so I can take some monster vapes and i'll be all set.
 
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Brian Stirling

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I went to the Indy 500 last month and right beside the RV we were staying in was a booth selling E-cigarettes. The funny/ironic thing is that several of the salesman would go behind the booth during there break to ... wait for it ... to smoke a cigarette! No not an e-cigarette, but the real kind...


Brian
 

sze5003

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I went to the Indy 500 last month and right beside the RV we were staying in was a booth selling E-cigarettes. The funny/ironic thing is that several of the salesman would go behind the booth during there break to ... wait for it ... to smoke a cigarette! No not an e-cigarette, but the real kind...


Brian

That's odd I guess they never bothered to try any of the liquids. A lot of places like that just have generic crappy liquids which doesn't help if someone is looking into ecigs.
 

moonbogg

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My mini came and I've been vaping it. I'll post pics tomorrow with the rest of the gear. Too lazy right now. But here are some impressions.
At first, I thought the tank was either defective or just sucked because I couldn't get hardly any vapor. Turns out I didn't let the wick soak long enough. Once it was nice and soaked, that little tank vapes like a beast!
My original tank works really well, but this new tank provides a very different vapor and I didn't expect that it could be this different.
This vapor is warm, rich and thick and full of flavor. Its very different. Its also much less harsh on my throat for some reason and its still 24mg. Maybe its the juice, I don't know, but I really like this tank a lot. Its a sexy little beast and i'll have pics tomorrow.

As always, vape on!