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Both parties don't really represent black people.

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GettyRoad said:
The problem with you liberals is that you assume anyone who doesn't support you are Russian. You're foolish. I voted for Hillary but post-2016, the Democrats are to the left of Marx. I'm not a Republican or Democrat. I'm an Independent. The Democratic Party thinks that every black voter must be a Democrat. Black people are not monolithic. You don't understand that people voted for Trump for a reason. He won the Electoral College for a reason. The Democratic Party did not have a message.
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The Democrats are to the left of Marx? This is insane. They are a center-left party, more moderate than the dominant liberal party in every other developed nation on earth.
 
GettyRoad said:
The problem with you liberals is that you assume anyone who doesn't support you are Russian. You're foolish. I voted for Hillary but post-2016, the Democrats are to the left of Marx. I'm not a Republican or Democrat. I'm an Independent. The Democratic Party thinks that every black voter must be a Democrat. Black people are not monolithic. You don't understand that people voted for Trump for a reason. He won the Electoral College for a reason. The Democratic Party did not have a message.
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You're a clumsy concern troll trying to tell Dems what they believe. We don't think every black voter needs to be a Democrat. The vast majority of black voters align with Democrats because they want to. Democrats have championed civil rights from LBJ forward.
 
GettyRoad said:
The problem with you liberals is that you assume anyone who doesn't support you are Russian. You're foolish. I voted for Hillary but post-2016, the Democrats are to the left of Marx. I'm not a Republican or Democrat. I'm an Independent. The Democratic Party thinks that every black voter must be a Democrat. Black people are not monolithic. You don't understand that people voted for Trump for a reason. He won the Electoral College for a reason. The Democratic Party did not have a message.
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Boring, another #walkaway troll

I totally believe he voted Hillary in 2016 it’s totally believable.....for an idiot.
 
ch33zw1z said:
He appears unfamiliar with Marx as well.
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Reminds me of slow saying he voted Democrat and implying it was until the last election, his posts told a different story, then the claim changed to voted Obama in 2008, again posting history said something else, finally it became he *may* have voted Democrat in some local elections and that may have happened in the mid to late 90s.
 
Fanatical Meat said:
Reminds me of slow saying he voted Democrat and implying it was until the last election, his posts told a different story, then the claim changed to voted Obama in 2008, again posting history said something else, finally it became he *may* have voted Democrat in some local elections and that may have happened in the mid to late 90s.
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At the very least this walkaway shite is sort of semi coordinated ... they are getting their marching orders from somewhere..
 
GettyRoad said:
At least 30%-40% of white Americans vote Democratic. If you are a black person, you vote Republican you get attacked. There needs to be more political options in this country.
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It was after the Civil Rights Act when the Democratic Party had a fissure, and so-called "white" people in the South switched parties. Those developments would certainly have driven many blacks into the Democratic fold.

But I don't criticize blacks for voting Republican. I criticize Republicans for voting Republican. I once thought I was a Republican, and I criticize myself for it.

So again, as I said, many of us emerged from the 1980s and 1990s to think we were in a "post-racial" America. We're not. And the reason we are not derives from racial-identity insecurities. I've witnessed more than just a sample of people expressing revulsion for the Obama presidency, and they did so explicitly on the grounds of race.

If others didn't do so explicitly, they still showed their hand in the way they constructed criticism of the Obama presidency. I saw the Speaker of the House get up and demand "Where are the jobs?!" when Obama had been in office for a mere month. Another man I encountered argued "Obama is the worst president -- ever!" when he'd been in office merely five months.

Righties were faced with the cultural dilemma of sorting out their criticism of the Obama administration for acceptably legitimate reasons, and their criticisms which really had an origin in racial animus. That's why there was an epidemic of pundits and others whining about "political correctness" and all the little conniption fits occurring on college campuses: because they couldn't say "N****r". And that's why the GOP acted in lockstep against any thought of cooperative bipartisanship with the Obama presidency. It follows the logic of the quote from Lincoln about fooling some of the people. An office holder can be wrong about some of the things some of the time, but he can't be wrong about all of the things all of the time.

If Obama had been "white" -- the same person with the same party and the same policies, the same public presence, same voice, same words, same ideas -- would have been treated altogether differently. So the "B" in Republican stands for "Bigot". And bigots are neither honest with themselves, nor honest with anyone else. Bigots or not, they've elected the most dishonest piece of disgusting filth in modern history. It's not his race that lies at the bottom of my despite. IT's one thing to hate someone for altogether acceptable reasons. It's another when the reasons are totally unacceptable, as affirmed by the progress of the last 50-plus years.
 
Jhhnn said:
That's a non sequiter given that the Russians merely mimic the GOP message & put their own calculated spin on it. They don't control our thoughts. They help our most divisive politicians like Trump persuade us to burn down common decency & mutual respect along with the Institutions of the Government of the People. A weak & divided America means a stronger Russia in relative terms.

They picked a team in the American political divide & that's Trump & the GOP. They're not trying to do us any favors.
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Kinda like what those "Russians" did during Roy Moore's election?
 
brandonbull said:
Kinda like what those "Russians" did during Roy Moore's election?
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Oh look, it's a Trump drone trying to distract from the reality that Russia explicitly, enthusiastically supports Trump because he sows chaos and division (and is soft on Russia, I'd add).

This is a pretty shoddy attempt at whataboutism, even by your low standards.
 
Jhhnn said:
Kinda like trying to deny the veracity of what I offered, which is confirmed by 17 US intelligence agencies, Twitter, Facebook & multiple cyber security firms.
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You're not fooling anyone. brandon knows about the deep state conspiracy, infowars filled him in. Here, take these supplements to increase neuroplasticity and you too could be in on the game. Act now while supplies last.
 
Both parties don't "really" support poor people in general. They both are geared to help the ultra-rich stay that way.

One more so than the other. Long ago I came to the conclusion that the perfect is the enemy of the good (or even the "meh"). Do I get excited about voting against the GOP (for whoever might defeat them)? Not really. But it's what we have.

One side is far more tolerant/less promoting of racism than the other...guessing that has a wee bit to do with black support for the Democrats and lack of support for people like Trump. Black women have some tiny freaking percent of support for him, go figure! It's a complete mystery!
 
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Stokely said:
Both parties don't "really" support poor people in general. They both are geared to help the ultra-rich stay that way.

One more so than the other. Long ago I came to the conclusion that the perfect is the enemy of the good (or even the "meh"). Do I get excited about voting against the GOP (for whoever might defeat them)? Not really. But it's what we have.

One side is far more tolerant/less promoting of racism than the other...guessing that has a wee bit to do with black support for the Democrats and lack of support for people like Trump. Black women have some tiny freaking percent of support for him, go figure! It's a complete mystery!
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That's not true at all. Given their way, the GOP would make savage cuts to social welfare programs while Dems seek to expand them. We're in no position to see how far Dems might go simply because they don't have the power to even begin.
 
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