Both parties don't really represent black people.

[GettyRoad]

The Democratic Party is overreliant on black voters. Black people vote 80%-95% for Democrats. The Republican Party usually ignores black voters, but they do have black people in the party. However, they call them "Uncle Tom" and other slurs because they don't think like black leftists.

Neither party represents black voters, like this Virginia Gov. Ralph Northam.

Sad state of affairs.

 

[Jhhnn]

The Democratic Party is overreliant on black voters. Black people vote 80%-95% for Democrats. The Republican Party usually ignores black voters, but they do have black people in the party. However, they call them "Uncle Tom" and other slurs because they don't think like black leftists.

Neither party represents black voters, like this Virginia Gov. Ralph Northam.

Sad state of affairs.

Keep drinking the koolaid-

https://www.washingtonpost.com/powe...ory.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.67933406ad92

 

[Vic]

Except for a possible indiscretion some 30 years ago, what has Northam done to demonstrate he doesn't represent black people?

 

[sandorski]

lol, ok. Seems like Black people disagree.

 

[blackangst1]

Youre an idiot.

 

[Moonbeam]

Your thread title confuses me. Did you mean to say that neither party properly represents blacks. "Both parties don't" just sounds awkard to my ear and as there are Black people living in America and we have a representative form of government consisting of two primary parties, both parties do represent them. There can be a debate about how well they represent them, however.

So, owing to the fact, as I have noted with greater and greater experiential detail in recent years, that this is a forum on which judgments, and mostly of the negative kind are arrived at instantly arrived , I then, not to be left out, and given the facts above, pronounce you to be a Russian Psyops agent. Learn English and take a course in American government, comrade.

 

[dank69]

Only one party actively and unabashedly works towards suppressing the black vote.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Only one party actively and unabashedly works towards suppressing the black vote.

Pointing that out makes you a racist

 

[cytg111]

The Democratic Party is overreliant on black voters. Black people vote 80%-95% for Democrats. The Republican Party usually ignores black voters, but they do have black people in the party. However, they call them "Uncle Tom" and other slurs because they don't think like black leftists.

Neither party represents black voters, like this Virginia Gov. Ralph Northam.

Sad state of affairs.

Thats a funny dance.....

American Taleban vs. Democracy.

 

[BonzaiDuck]

The basic assertion of the thread reflects the fly in the ointment of prevailing right-wing thinking. It would be the imaginary resentment people had for the Obama presidency, with the idea that his race determined his priorities to groups based on their color. You could observe it in the reaction some people had to the invitation to beer on the WH lawn extended to the police officers who had mistakenly arrested the black college professor. Or to Obama's reaction to the Trayvon Martin shooting in Florida during 2012.

Once you identify this kind of backward thinking, it is usually obvious where it's coming from. I don't bring my partisan affiliation into this discussion to determine my observations, assertions and conclusions. Instead, those things determine my partisan affiliation.

It is an understatement to say that the basic problem with core Trump supporters can be found in their underlying white identity obsession, whether they are forthright about it or not so. Some of us have long ago shed those insecurities. But the Trump presidency shows that it isn't going to disappear too soon.

 

[Zorba]

For some reason I was actually thinking about this stupid line of reasoning a couple of days ago.

Here are a few of the things Democrats support that directly benefit people living in poverty, which unfortunately a disproportionate number of blacks do.

1) Head start programs, public pre-k, public assistance for daycare, state funding of public schools, etc
2) Support higher minimum wages throughout the country and national efforts
3) Support AA as a factor in college acceptance
4) Put PoC in positions of power, which can not only act as role models but also bring diversity of thought/ideas to the table
5) Support various welfare programs that the working poor unfortunately depend on
6) Push for criminal justice reform to decrease the number of people in prison
7) Support the voting rights act and actively try to increase participation in elections
8) Support public transportation that many working poor depend on to get to and from work
9) Passed and continue to fight for ACA that covered huge numbers of the working poor

That's just off the top of my head. The "both sides are the same" with regards to minorities is just propaganda that attempts to convince minority to not vote.

 

[jman19]

Pointing that out makes you a racist

Talking about race makes you the real racist. And now that I've posted about talking about racism I must be a racist too.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Talking about race makes you the real racist. And now that I've posted about talking about racism I must be a racist too.

Yes, you're the racist. And I'm the racist for acknowledging your racism

 

[HomerJS]

The Democratic Party is overreliant on black voters. Black people vote 80%-95% for Democrats. The Republican Party usually ignores black voters, but they do have black people in the party. However, they call them "Uncle Tom" and other slurs because they don't think like black leftists.

Neither party represents black voters, like this Virginia Gov. Ralph Northam.

Sad state of affairs.

A more accurate post would be Repuublicans are openly hostile towards blacks by ignoring and implicitly condoning racism and promoting policies that are inherently racist (aka voter suppression).

Why do you think Steve King is still in office?

 

[jman19]

Yes, you're the racist. And I'm the racist for acknowledging your racism

I wish we could learn to be less racist - like Slow, UC and Tugger. Alas...

 

[Greenman]

Your thread title confuses me. Did you mean to say that neither party properly represents blacks. "Both parties don't" just sounds awkard to my ear and as there are Black people living in America and we have a representative form of government consisting of two primary parties, both parties do represent them. There can be a debate about how well they represent them, however.

So, owing to the fact, as I have noted with greater and greater experiential detail in recent years, that this is a forum on which judgments, and mostly of the negative kind are arrived at instantly arrived , I then, not to be left out, and given the facts above, pronounce you to be a Russian Psyops agent. Learn English and take a course in American government, comrade.

I so hope you're right about this! I've been dying to actually chat with a Russian mind bender.

 

[Paratus]

For some reason I was actually thinking about this stupid line of reasoning a couple of days ago.

Here are a few of the things Democrats support that directly benefit people living in poverty, which unfortunately a disproportionate number of blacks do.

1) Head start programs, public pre-k, public assistance for daycare, state funding of public schools, etc
2) Support higher minimum wages throughout the country and national efforts
3) Support AA as a factor in college acceptance
4) Put PoC in positions of power, which can not only act as role models but also bring diversity of thought/ideas to the table
5) Support various welfare programs that the working poor unfortunately depend on
6) Push for criminal justice reform to decrease the number of people in prison
7) Support the voting rights act and actively try to increase participation in elections
8) Support public transportation that many working poor depend on to get to and from work
9) Passed and continue to fight for ACA that covered huge numbers of the working poor

That's just off the top of my head. The "both sides are the same" with regards to minorities is just propaganda that attempts to convince minority to not vote.

So you see 3 & 4 there? Well first the racists put the blacks in chattel slavery and took 100% of their labor. Then through racist applications of law and direct threats of violence during reconstruction, Jim Crow, and red-lining blacks and other POCs were kept out of political power and prevented from wealth accumulation.

Now scientific studies have shown that people who suffer the effects of poverty and racism suffer from cognitive performance issues.

The US is supposed to be a meritocracy. So when the Dems elect POCs or use AA to get them into college aren’t they the real racists since Conservatives went through so much trouble to burden their performance to come in second to whites in the first place? /s

 

[pmv]

Seems to me that one party doesn't represent black people as well as it could do, while the other doesn't represent them at all and has no interest in doing so.

 

[Jhhnn]

I so hope you're right about this! I've been dying to actually chat with a Russian mind bender.

They mostly just pitch in to help spread the GOP message of FUD-

https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/16/politics/who-is-ten-gop/index.html

I could go on but it's clear you seek the comfort of Denial rather than any sort of illumination.

 

[BonzaiDuck]

Seems to me that one party doesn't represent black people as well as it could do, while the other doesn't represent them at all and has no interest in doing so.

Obama was "my" president. I didn't vote for him because he was "black" or because I thought that we need to extend "affirmative action" into the White House just so "blacks could get a chance." I voted for him because he was the type of PERSON I wanted in the White House.

I got the impression from Rightie-reactions during O's two terms that somehow they consider his presidency as "representing black people." It's time to get beyond racial identity. Cite the Black Panthers movement and all that history as much as you want. You'd think that before civil rights, blacks didn't WANT a racial identity: they wanted an equal HUMAN identity. People who now worry about their WHITE identity as basis for supporting Trump are insecure. They have a self-esteem problem.

It is obvious that both Trump and his Base are slow to catch up on the social-evolutionary tree. That's why Trump can't really "talk" about race with any intelligence, and why he has to use Obama as a scapegoat and foil every time he gets on TV to sell more of his snake-oil nonsense.

As for Governor Northam? He may even be sincere, but his past behavior as an adult in medical school has come back to haunt him. I have my own personal demons, and they might have caught up to me. But I'm retired now.

He needs to give the reins of VA state gov to Fairfax and move on.

 

[GettyRoad]

For some reason I was actually thinking about this stupid line of reasoning a couple of days ago.

Here are a few of the things Democrats support that directly benefit people living in poverty, which unfortunately a disproportionate number of blacks do.

1) Head start programs, public pre-k, public assistance for daycare, state funding of public schools, etc
2) Support higher minimum wages throughout the country and national efforts
3) Support AA as a factor in college acceptance
4) Put PoC in positions of power, which can not only act as role models but also bring diversity of thought/ideas to the table
5) Support various welfare programs that the working poor unfortunately depend on
6) Push for criminal justice reform to decrease the number of people in prison
7) Support the voting rights act and actively try to increase participation in elections
8) Support public transportation that many working poor depend on to get to and from work
9) Passed and continue to fight for ACA that covered huge numbers of the working poor

That's just off the top of my head. The "both sides are the same" with regards to minorities is just propaganda that attempts to convince minority to not vote.

This is the problem here. Liberals here say "oh, black people don't use welfare, the majority of white people are on welfare, yadda, yadda"

I'm not a Democrat or a Republican. I'm an Independent.

Do Democrats advocate for entrepreneurship for black Americans, you know, black people who want start their own businesses, etc?

 

[GettyRoad]

The basic assertion of the thread reflects the fly in the ointment of prevailing right-wing thinking. It would be the imaginary resentment people had for the Obama presidency, with the idea that his race determined his priorities to groups based on their color. You could observe it in the reaction some people had to the invitation to beer on the WH lawn extended to the police officers who had mistakenly arrested the black college professor. Or to Obama's reaction to the Trayvon Martin shooting in Florida during 2012.

Once you identify this kind of backward thinking, it is usually obvious where it's coming from. I don't bring my partisan affiliation into this discussion to determine my observations, assertions and conclusions. Instead, those things determine my partisan affiliation.

It is an understatement to say that the basic problem with core Trump supporters can be found in their underlying white identity obsession, whether they are forthright about it or not so. Some of us have long ago shed those insecurities. But the Trump presidency shows that it isn't going to disappear too soon.

I'm not right wing. I'm center-wing. Like it or not, Obama is seen as a representation of black people.

 

[Jhhnn]

This is the problem here. Liberals here say "oh, black people don't use welfare, the majority of white people are on welfare, yadda, yadda"

I'm not a Democrat or a Republican. I'm an Independent.

Do Democrats advocate for entrepreneurship for black Americans, you know, black people who want start their own businesses, etc?

Democrats promote entrepreneurship for all Americans through funding for the SBA & other efforts. We help Blacks be a part of that through anti-discrimination efforts.

Oh, and that strawman of yours in the first paragraph is pathetic.

 

[Vic]

Do Democrats advocate for entrepreneurship for black Americans, you know, black people who want start their own businesses, etc?

Yes.

Let me give you a good picture of partisan racial divide. Recently, the predominately white city I live in elected a black woman to its non-partisan city council. She has a highly accomplished resume: higher education, military service, and leadership positions in the private and public sectors.
And the response from the Republican crowd on all the local message boards? She's "incompetent," the "liberal affirmative action vote," and of course, "saying that doesn't make me a racist" (when they never say that about white male candidates).

But anyway, I hope you get the idea.

 

[Greenman]

They mostly just pitch in to help spread the GOP message of FUD-

https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/16/politics/who-is-ten-gop/index.html

I could go on but it's clear you seek the comfort of Denial rather than any sort of illumination.

Not at all. Propaganda has been in use as long as spoken language. I find it fascinating.
The difference between us is that the propaganda you like is the best propaganda. You choose to believe that Russian mind benders control the thoughts of millions of dimwitted republicans. I have trouble buying into it. That's why I want to chat with them, I want to pit my Jedi mind skills against the very best the Russians have to offer.