Boston marathon explosions

[raildogg]

I already have been, I'm apparently a idiot and an Islamophobe for pointing out the similarities and commenting on the barbarism and savagery of Islamic terror acts. My crime was to point out how in their frequency and target selection there are no lines of decency they won't cross.

Wow, "Savagery of Islamic terror acts." So the bombs we dropped in Iraq and Afghanistan that killed hundreds of thousands of people were "Kind acts of Christianianity"?

The West has perfected the art of mass killing and killing in general. The so-called "Islamic" terrorists have nothing on them.

 

[NoStateofMind]

What do you want the authorities to do?

If there was a gang and somehow you overheard them saying they were planning to rob a local store would you not warn those who worked there if you had enough time and foreknowledge?

Should they cancel an event that brings in millions of dollars of economic activity to a city? If they did that, then the bombers would not have set off their bombs, and because there was no bomb explosion, hence no evidence of a bomb, you would have blamed the government for controlling us, preventing the people of Boston from living their normal lives that day.

The unthinking mind at work.

Lives are worth more than dollars IMO. Doesn't surprise me thats lost on you though. "Government" being charged with the protection of the people (yeah right) did not do that. They did not warn anyone. "Everything is fine its just a training exercise". Canceling wouldn't have been my solution. Choices are essential to liberty. Yet that's not how they operate.

To someone like you, is there any way the authorities could have done the right thing in a way that you acknowledge they did the right thing?

Yep, acknowledge the threat and let people be warned. Thats why the bomb dogs were there. They have the right to know. Its their lives.

 

[Darwin333]

If government truly cared they would warn each and every time. My life and limbs are precious to me. I suppose those are valued by many of citizens. IDC how many times I heard it I would want to know. Then again we may have different ideas on what we value.

We value the same thing we just have rather opposing views on the value of the information at hand. In the example I gave the information is quite literally valueless since its indistinguishable from the normal "noise". Thats why I clarified my statement with "credible information" versus just noise. I am sure there are quite literally thousands of pieces of information about potential terrorist threats and potential bombings and so on. If the .gov released all of that information not only would it be useless to you and I since we wouldn't have the sheer time necessary to personally vet each one but it would give away intelligence gathering information to the people we are spying on and it would cause people to needlessly worry. Could you imagine the damage to the economy if the .gov reported every time some idiot on a forum said they were going to blow something up? If it doesn't utterly destroy the economy then it means people are completely disregarding it and we are back to needlessly giving away what information we have gathered/looking at.

Again, there is a very key word in all of that and its "credible". If the .gov has reason to believe that a threat isn't normal noise and is actually credible they obviously should release it to the public if they can do so in a safe way. There are all kinds of "what ifs", but if I were the bad guys and you had your way I would never have to plant another actual bomb again. Just provide enough crap to get the .gov to say there is a threat and my goal of terrorizing people would be met.

Being that there was already a report from someone earlier in this thread that bomb sniffing dogs (its just a training exercise IIRC) were on scene before the race and also had never seen them at a race like this before. If that holds true, the Government knew of a bomb threat and failed to warn the people. This makes them responsible in part because their job is to protect. Not very good at one of your main "purposes" if you ask me.

If it comes out that they had enough credible information to bring in bomb sniffing dogs I will agree with you that its something that probably should have been released. I just think that releasing everything as you advocate would not only be ineffective but counterproductive.

 

[Darwin333]

I think he got tired of everyone making fun of the fact that his English skills were at a sub high school level.

Do we know for a fact that he is not actually a sub high school level student? It would make a lot more sense than some of the alternatives....

 

[jackstar7]

Yep, acknowledge the threat and let people be warned. Thats why the bomb dogs were there. They have the right to know. Its their lives.

Are we back to Orange again?

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Wow, "Savagery of Islamic terror acts." So the bombs we dropped in Iraq and Afghanistan that killed hundreds of thousands of people were "Kind acts of Christianianity"?

The West has perfected the art of mass killing and killing in general. The so-called "Islamic" terrorists have nothing on them.

In Afghanistan they were the response to them not extraditing Bin Laden, in Iraq they were beceause the war in Afghanistan was coming ot an end and they didn't want an end, they wanted terrorism to be an ongoing thing and they got their wish.

Before the invasion of Iraq Muslim terrorism was 1 in ten terrorist attacks, we had them corenered, we had them done for, we had the air support and hundreds of thousands of soldiers to kill them all, every last one of them.

But no, we ere called out ot there, my team sent to head initial invasion of Iraq, in Afghanistan we left 15k guys who were not authorized to do anything but keep the base clean. no air support at all.

GW Bush and Tony Blair are the people to blame for this, they are the reason for ANY and ALL subsequent terrorist attcaks.

Burn them in a tub of tar, burn them like a blazing star...

There was a time when we dealt with such traitors in an appropriate way, nowadays we get conservatives who cling on traitors words as law.


Pathetic, truly and utterly pathetic.

 

[AmerDoux]

Yesterday was very unsettling for a lot us here in Boston. After the bombings, there were sirens throughout the city from like 3 - 5. All the various information/misinformation of secondary bombs had a lot of people even more so on edge esp. during the evening commute. On top of that, maybe because of the heavy load or an intentional shutdown to prevent remote detonators, it was very difficult to reach friends and families by phone.

A friend of mine went to watch her friend finish the race. Took a picture at the flags where the explosion happened at around 2pm. Fortunate for her she went to get a drink at a bar near there in hopes of coming back at 3. She was recounting how both explosions rocked the building she was in, the 2nd one knocking down empty chairs in the restaurant. She told me she literally cried all the way home.

People died and a lot of people were seriously injured. It's unfortunate that all this nonsense is going on in this thread.

I am glad that your friend was not physically hurt. She will need to spend time with friends/family talking through her feelings. In a situation like this, there are not going to be any satisfactory answers. And that may be the most difficult thing to wrap your brain around.

Yes, there is a lot of nonsense in this thread. However, it's the same 30 or so people posting the same crap over and over. There is a much, much larger group of us who are lurking. Know that our hearts and prayers are with all of you.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

This isn't Islamic terrorism, these are the likes of Incoherent that have been riled up.

There are three reasons why this isn't Islamic terroristm:

1. a group will claim it, be proud of it.

2. gumpowder and ball bearings is Aryan Nation stuff, pouring diesel on grass fertilizer is to complicated to the likes of Incoherent.

3. Patriot week has always been about domestic terrorism.

 

[Bowfinger]

Aww come on, he actually had a valid point for once. I know its got to suck coming off one of your posts but its his first time. Let him enjoy it a bit.

Umm ... Incorruptible almost had a valid point, for once. The point he tried to make is that I was wrong to stereotype all conservatives as useless idiots just because he is a useless idiot. The problem with his "point" is that it was exactly wrong; I had just stated that he is NOT representative of other (self-proclaimed) conservatives.

Had he tried to say it was wrong for others to stereotype all conservatives as useless idiots just because he is a useless idiot, he would then have had an actual point. Sadly, he missed the mark by fixating on me rather than others. He was oh so close, but ultimately fell short ... again.

That said, he seems delighted that someone agrees not all conservatives are as dumb as he is. I don't want to squash such simple joy. That would be mean. I suggest, therefore, we all embrace the point he almost made, and apparently feels he's been making "for a long time now", that Incorruptible is, in fact, his own "special little cesspool of stupid," not typical of conservatives in general.

On a personal note, it's really nice to see we can all come together and agree on some things.

 

[umbrella39]

he's still a terrorist. the only reason he's held in high esteem by liberals is because he advances the leftist liberal agenda.

conspiraKOOK

 

[OBLAMA2009]

this boston bombing is probably what it looks like in afghanistan or pakistan after an american drone attack, except the pictures dont make the news because our victims lives dont matter. two or three people were killed in this boston bombing but in one drone strike last week i think they killed something like 12 children

 

[OBLAMA2009]

Wow, "Savagery of Islamic terror acts." So the bombs we dropped in Iraq and Afghanistan that killed hundreds of thousands of people were "Kind acts of Christianianity"?

The West has perfected the art of mass killing and killing in general. The so-called "Islamic" terrorists have nothing on them.

one drone attack is like 10x worse than this boston bombing. a drone attack kills and injures far more people that this bombing did thats to american "technology".

 

[shira]

If government truly cared they would warn each and every time. My life and limbs are precious to me. I suppose those are valued by many of citizens. IDC how many times I heard it I would want to know. Then again we may have different ideas on what we value.



Being that there was already a report from someone earlier in this thread that bomb sniffing dogs (its just a training exercise IIRC) were on scene before the race and also had never seen them at a race like this before, someone knew something. If that holds true, the Government knew of a bomb threat and failed to warn the people. This makes them responsible in part because their job is to protect. Not very good at one of their main "purposes" if you ask me.

The day the government starts revealing every threat it receives - regardless of the credibility of the threat - will be the day that the number of threats received for every major public event goes up 100-fold, and also the day that grid-lock and panic become business and usual.

A society overcomes terrorists by DEFYING them - by not allowing terrorists to control our daily lives. But your suggestion is EXACTLY what terrorists want.

Furthermore, your wild conclusion that "someone knew something" - based on "someone not remembering seeing" bomb-sniffing dogs at other marathons is even more moronic than your recommendation about bomb threats.

 

[shortylickens]

 

[Incorruptible]

conspiraKOOK

No you idiot, bill ayers is a terrorist and leftist.

 

[OutHouse]

Look at what 4channel found.

http://basedheisenberg.tumblr.com/p...pens-when-you-give-4chan-images-of-the-boston

 

[shortylickens]

Interesting.

And a million people probably took his picture. He'll be found soon. Hopefully it was a one-man operation and this can be over and done with.

 

[ZaneNBK]

Just had Jehovah's Witnesses come to my door wanting to talk to me about "How I felt about what happened in Boston." The amount of people using this event to forward their own agendas is disgusting.

One of the Kickstarter projects I'm backing that hasn't updated since December posted on the day of the bombing saying they were postponing their update to respect the victims. Give me a freaking break.

 

[raildogg]

Just had Jehovah's Witnesses come to my door wanting to talk to me about "How I felt about what happened in Boston." The amount of people using this event to forward their own agenda's is disgusting.

One of the Kickstarter projects I'm backing that hasn't updated since December posted on the day of the bombing saying they were postponing their update to respect the victims. Give me a freaking break.

People don't really care about anything but their own little selfish desires. This is true in 99.99% of cases. One has to ask himself. Do I really care or do I care only because it suits my purpose?

People do tend to huddle together when there is crisis but probably not for any good reason. They may do it to alleviate fears or to feel comfortable with the presence of people who they can relate to. But after the crisis is over, they go back to their daily lives, totally not caring about anything.

 

[shortylickens]

People don't really care about anything but their own little selfish desires. This is true in 99.99% of cases. One has to ask himself. Do I really care or do I care only because it suits my purpose?

People do tend to huddle together when there is crisis but probably not for any good reason. They may do it to alleviate fears or to feel comfortable with the presence of people who they can relate to. But after the crisis is over, they go back to their daily lives, totally not caring about anything.

Well as someone who thinks of others I got abused and disrespected a lot.
Can understand why the average person looks out for themselves first. It just makes sense.

In fact I am now in the process of trying to take better care of myself as a way to make real friends and get along with people in life.

 

[raildogg]

Well as someone who thinks of others I got abused and disrespected a lot.
Can understand why the average person looks out for themselves first. It just makes sense.

In fact I am now in the process of trying to take better care of myself as a way to make real friends and get along with people in life.

That is not what I was implying. Of course you have to be a competent person.

A crisis is often a time when people supposedly bond together and share their pain, etc. However, it is not due to true kindness but other factors. Fear is a strong one. If it was a true act of kindness, it would not simply evaporate when the crisis is over. In our society, we bond together for a short period of time and then move on. Then we continue with our hatred. That means it takes terrible events to supposedly "bring us together." Even then, it's usually due to fear, etc.

After 9/11, I believe I heard people say "This will make us stronger." Did that turn out to be true?

This country is more divisive in every way and is getting worse. Not only here but the whole world.

 

[OBLAMA2009]

Look at what 4channel found.

http://basedheisenberg.tumblr.com/p...pens-when-you-give-4chan-images-of-the-boston

lol watch them get an innocent guy accused of this

 

[nageov3t]

Arrest imminent, AP reports

 

[umbrella39]

No you idiot, bill ayers is a terrorist and leftist.

No you dumb wise and beautiful woman, Obama and Bill Ayers have nothing to do with this subject or thread despite dumb cunts like you and IGTB trying to divert and deflect when you should just keep on biting each others pillows. POS America haters like you should be deported.

 

[BoberFett]

this boston bombing is probably what it looks like in afghanistan or pakistan after an american drone attack, except the pictures dont make the news because our victims lives dont matter. two or three people were killed in this boston bombing but in one drone strike last week i think they killed something like 12 children

one drone attack is like 10x worse than this boston bombing. a drone attack kills and injures far more people that this bombing did thats to american "technology".

Drone attacks are condoned by The Obama. That makes it OK.