Boss got a new to him 335i Coupe

[Kadarin]

Originally posted by: zerocool84
E46 M3 is infinitely better looking than anything in the E90's including the M3.

The e46 is a damned nice looking car, and I vastly prefer it over the e90. However, to me the e92 looks better.

It's a subjective thing, though.

 

[Koing]

Originally posted by: Kadarin

Originally posted by: zerocool84
E46 M3 is infinitely better looking than anything in the E90's including the M3.

The e46 is a damned nice looking car, and I vastly prefer it over the e90. However, to me the e92 looks better.

It's a subjective thing, though.

The E92 is growing on me, but the E46 M3 is such dam good value imo! 343BHp, 4 seats, 5 at a squeeze 😛, decent boot for £12-16k for a sweet example. Not bad not bad. BUT it's weird, sometimes in pic it looks well dated but when I see one on the roads it looks bad ass 😀

Koing

 

[rh71]

so if it's just new to him then it's used right?

e92 is a decent iteration. They should have made the M3 even more distinct from a regular 3 though.

 

[Koing]

Originally posted by: rh71
so if it's just new to him then it's used right?

e92 is a decent iteration. They should have made the M3 even more distinct from a regular 3 though.

BMW does subtle differences. between the normal version and the M version.

Koing

 

[SSSnail]

http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthread.php?t=593547

http://s230.photobucket.com/al...urrent=m3teststart.flv

 

[amdhunter]

Originally posted by: BlahBlahYouToo

Originally posted by: amdhunter

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
I'm going to see if he'll let me take it for a spin. 😀

Oh, and it's a manual. 😉

:thumbsup:

why are you driving a manual civic in nyc?

Who? I drive a manual Jetta in the city, and it honestly doesn't bother me too much unless there is a lot of uphill traffic. I probably won't buy an automatic car until old age starts to kick in.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: rh71
so if it's just new to him then it's used right?

e92 is a decent iteration. They should have made the M3 even more distinct from a regular 3 though.

Actually, it is new. I thought it was just new to him but I was wrong.

I'm not changing the title either. 😛

 

[Fenixgoon]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: rh71
so if it's just new to him then it's used right?

e92 is a decent iteration. They should have made the M3 even more distinct from a regular 3 though.

Actually, it is new. I thought it was just new to him but I was wrong.

I'm not changing the title either. 😛

technically, it still is new to him 😉

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Originally posted by: BlahBlahYouToo

Originally posted by: amdhunter

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
I'm going to see if he'll let me take it for a spin. 😀

Oh, and it's a manual. 😉

:thumbsup:

why are you driving a manual civic in nyc?

Why would you drive an automatic Civic anywhere?

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Originally posted by: SSSnail
http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthread.php?t=593547

http://s230.photobucket.com/al...urrent=m3teststart.flv

I am not ashamed to eat my words - that is an amazing swap and it sounds like they did it in a reasonable time frame, for reasonable money. It sounds like they have some pretty impressive engineering minds in the shop that did it, but, well, they did it . . . That's a stunning car.

 

[Arkaign]

Originally posted by: Don Vito Corleone

Originally posted by: SSSnail
http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthread.php?t=593547

http://s230.photobucket.com/al...urrent=m3teststart.flv

I am not ashamed to eat my words - that is an amazing swap and it sounds like they did it in a reasonable time frame, for reasonable money. It sounds like they have some pretty impressive engineering minds in the shop that did it, but, well, they did it . . . That's a stunning car.

That guy spent $10k on a wrecked M3 to pull that motor from, it's a huge investment to start out with ~420hp (can probably get to 450hp or so without any major work). For less $, you can do an LS swap, have a lighter motor, and start with ~500+hp, with 600, 700, or even 800+hp available without spending an insane amount of $$. Getting the //M motors to those power ranges costs a lot more. I'm a BMW fan, and I love their stuff (most of it), but if you're going to go through the trouble of a swap, why not go for some serious power?

Something like this looks like a total monster, and it doesn't even have a SC yet, 455rwhp on a blueprinted LS1, probably 500hp or so at the crank, and a good supercharger kit would take that into the 600+ range with ease.

 

[exdeath]

Originally posted by: Don Vito Corleone

Originally posted by: SSSnail
http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthread.php?t=593547

http://s230.photobucket.com/al...urrent=m3teststart.flv

I am not ashamed to eat my words - that is an amazing swap and it sounds like they did it in a reasonable time frame, for reasonable money. It sounds like they have some pretty impressive engineering minds in the shop that did it, but, well, they did it . . . That's a stunning car.

Past all the fancy technology, acronyms, features, etc, at the end of the day, to the lay person, it's an engine and a aluminum box, with plugs A, B, and C going into connectors A, B, and C, and a couple extraneous wires twisted together get A/C and headlights. While I'm exaggerating slightly, point is that all the advanced stuff is the software inside the box and amounts to connecting one or two more wires, whether it's VTEC or VANOS.

When things get hard and require some advanced electrical ability is when you do a completely off the wall swap like an American engine harness being wired up to a European instrument cluster (eg ATI Focus "Terminator") and basically have to start from scratch and build a 100% custom harness.

As technology evolves, I expect swaps of this nature to become downright foolproof owing to the widespread adoption of packet switched digital serial buses, with everything using the same 3 wire connector.

 

[JulesMaximus]

I'm going to buy an E46 and put a VQ35 in it. 😛

 

[exdeath]

Originally posted by: Arkaign

Originally posted by: Don Vito Corleone

Originally posted by: SSSnail
http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthread.php?t=593547

http://s230.photobucket.com/al...urrent=m3teststart.flv

I am not ashamed to eat my words - that is an amazing swap and it sounds like they did it in a reasonable time frame, for reasonable money. It sounds like they have some pretty impressive engineering minds in the shop that did it, but, well, they did it . . . That's a stunning car.

That guy spent $10k on a wrecked M3 to pull that motor from, it's a huge investment to start out with ~420hp (can probably get to 450hp or so without any major work). For less $, you can do an LS swap, have a lighter motor, and start with ~500+hp, with 600, 700, or even 800+hp available without spending an insane amount of $$. Getting the //M motors to those power ranges costs a lot more. I'm a BMW fan, and I love their stuff (most of it), but if you're going to go through the trouble of a swap, why not go for some serious power?

Something like this looks like a total monster, and it doesn't even have a SC yet, 455rwhp on a blueprinted LS1, probably 500hp or so at the crank, and a good supercharger kit would take that into the 600+ range with ease.

The S54 isn't a bad platform to start with, provided you've taken care of the rod bearing TSB 😉 As I've said before plenty of E46 M3s have been made into monsters long before the E90.

 

[Arkaign]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
I'm going to buy an E46 and put a VQ35 in it. 😛

lol why? 🙂 I think the VQ35 is a decent motor, but I have no fathomable clue why someone would go through so much work for just moderate power output. The VQ35 doesn't take large amounts of boost that well, and it seems the practical upper limit for daily driving use is in the low-mid 400hp range, and that's with a good turbo+intercooler setup.

But from the 😛 I think you may be just joshing us.

 

[Arkaign]

Originally posted by: exdeath

Originally posted by: Arkaign

Originally posted by: Don Vito Corleone

Originally posted by: SSSnail
http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthread.php?t=593547

http://s230.photobucket.com/al...urrent=m3teststart.flv

I am not ashamed to eat my words - that is an amazing swap and it sounds like they did it in a reasonable time frame, for reasonable money. It sounds like they have some pretty impressive engineering minds in the shop that did it, but, well, they did it . . . That's a stunning car.

That guy spent $10k on a wrecked M3 to pull that motor from, it's a huge investment to start out with ~420hp (can probably get to 450hp or so without any major work). For less $, you can do an LS swap, have a lighter motor, and start with ~500+hp, with 600, 700, or even 800+hp available without spending an insane amount of $$. Getting the //M motors to those power ranges costs a lot more. I'm a BMW fan, and I love their stuff (most of it), but if you're going to go through the trouble of a swap, why not go for some serious power?

Something like this looks like a total monster, and it doesn't even have a SC yet, 455rwhp on a blueprinted LS1, probably 500hp or so at the crank, and a good supercharger kit would take that into the 600+ range with ease.

The S54 isn't a bad platform to start with, provided you've taken care of the rod bearing TSB 😉 As I've said before plenty of E46 M3s have been made into monsters long before the E90.

Yeah, you took the words out of my mouth. Hitting the 400hp range isn't a huge problem with an S54, and if one wants more, then an LS swap probably makes sense, as you can do big power on a proven source with reasonably high reliability and cheap maintenance once the swap is complete.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: Arkaign

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
I'm going to buy an E46 and put a VQ35 in it. 😛

lol why? 🙂 I think the VQ35 is a decent motor, but I have no fathomable clue why someone would go through so much work for just moderate power output. The VQ35 doesn't take large amounts of boost that well, and it seems the practical upper limit for daily driving use is in the low-mid 400hp range, and that's with a good turbo+intercooler setup.

But from the 😛 I think you may be just joshing us.

Ya think? 😉

 

[rh71]

Originally posted by: Fenixgoon

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: rh71
so if it's just new to him then it's used right?

e92 is a decent iteration. They should have made the M3 even more distinct from a regular 3 though.

Actually, it is new. I thought it was just new to him but I was wrong.

I'm not changing the title either. 😛

technically, it still is new to him 😉

See, I proved the point that using that term is more confusing.

Nevermind the fact that you could just say new, used, or nothing at all... I know Jules was just making fun of a prev thread, but make no mistake - "new-to-me" does sound stupid regardless.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: rh71

Originally posted by: Fenixgoon

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: rh71
so if it's just new to him then it's used right?

e92 is a decent iteration. They should have made the M3 even more distinct from a regular 3 though.

Actually, it is new. I thought it was just new to him but I was wrong.

I'm not changing the title either. 😛

technically, it still is new to him 😉

See, I proved the point that using that term is more confusing.

Nevermind the fact that you could just say new, used, or nothing at all... I know Jules was just making fun of a prev thread, but make no mistake - "new-to-me" does sound stupid regardless.

I love the term. I'm going to use it forever when referring to used cars!

 

[thomsbrain]

Glad to see my term lives on. 🙂

 

[rchiu]

Originally posted by: Don Vito Corleone
I hope you get, and enjoy, your test drive! I know you are ambivalent about BMWs, but the 335i (particularly with the Sport package) offers one hell of a driving experience. Do you know if it has the Sport package?

Hmm...does sports package makes that much difference? I am ordering a 335d (Euro spec with 286hp) and not convinced the 2600 euro additional for the M sports package is worth it. I think most of the add on are cosmetic, except the sports suspension that lowers the car. Unlike the US sports package, Euro M sports package still got 17 inch wheels, so still have to pay for 18 inch wheel. I prefer the regular seats and the wood trim, not a big fan of the silver trim that comes with the sports package.

but after reading your post, I am having second thoughts again......dang.

 

[SSSnail]

Originally posted by: rchiu

Originally posted by: Don Vito Corleone
I hope you get, and enjoy, your test drive! I know you are ambivalent about BMWs, but the 335i (particularly with the Sport package) offers one hell of a driving experience. Do you know if it has the Sport package?

Hmm...does sports package makes that much difference? I am ordering a 335d (Euro spec with 286hp) and not convinced the 2600 euro additional for the M sports package is worth it. I think most of the add on are cosmetic, except the sports suspension that lowers the car. Unlike the US sports package, Euro M sports package still got 17 inch wheels, so still have to pay for 18 inch wheel. I prefer the regular seats and the wood trim, not a big fan of the silver trim that comes with the sports package.

but after reading your post, I am having second thoughts again......dang.

I believe from 2002 onwards, coupes are automatically equipped with the sports package suspension, at least the US versions do get them.

 

[Kadarin]

Here is a pic of my old 335, before ditching it in favor of the M3. The GTO was also mine at the time, but I have since sold it.

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Originally posted by: rchiu

Originally posted by: Don Vito Corleone
I hope you get, and enjoy, your test drive! I know you are ambivalent about BMWs, but the 335i (particularly with the Sport package) offers one hell of a driving experience. Do you know if it has the Sport package?

Hmm...does sports package makes that much difference? I am ordering a 335d (Euro spec with 286hp) and not convinced the 2600 euro additional for the M sports package is worth it. I think most of the add on are cosmetic, except the sports suspension that lowers the car. Unlike the US sports package, Euro M sports package still got 17 inch wheels, so still have to pay for 18 inch wheel. I prefer the regular seats and the wood trim, not a big fan of the silver trim that comes with the sports package.

but after reading your post, I am having second thoughts again......dang.

It makes a huge difference. The non-sport suspension doesn't provide nearly the same handling experience and the non-sport steering wheel feels like a licorice rope compared to the sport wheel (I have since put an M3 wheel on my car, which is even beefier). I personally prefer the sport seats, though you apparently disagree, but there's no question they're more supportive and provide far better lateral support. At least in the US, wood trim is still available with the sport or M-Sport packages - I myself have walnut trim in my sport-equipped car.

 

[rchiu]

Originally posted by: Don Vito Corleone

Originally posted by: rchiu

Originally posted by: Don Vito Corleone
I hope you get, and enjoy, your test drive! I know you are ambivalent about BMWs, but the 335i (particularly with the Sport package) offers one hell of a driving experience. Do you know if it has the Sport package?

Hmm...does sports package makes that much difference? I am ordering a 335d (Euro spec with 286hp) and not convinced the 2600 euro additional for the M sports package is worth it. I think most of the add on are cosmetic, except the sports suspension that lowers the car. Unlike the US sports package, Euro M sports package still got 17 inch wheels, so still have to pay for 18 inch wheel. I prefer the regular seats and the wood trim, not a big fan of the silver trim that comes with the sports package.

but after reading your post, I am having second thoughts again......dang.

It makes a huge difference. The non-sport suspension doesn't provide nearly the same handling experience and the non-sport steering wheel feels like a licorice rope compared to the sport wheel (I have since put an M3 wheel on my car, which is even beefier). I personally prefer the sport seats, though you apparently disagree, but there's no question they're more supportive and provide far better lateral support. At least in the US, wood trim is still available with the sport or M-Sport packages - I myself have walnut trim in my sport-equipped car.

Thanks for the advise. But after reading up on more info on the sports package, I decided to keep it standard. The main reason being this is going to be my first BMW and I am not sure if I can handle the stiffer suspension. (I have been in some of my friends M3's and the ride is a little tough for my taste) Plus I am in a developing country right now and the road condition is not that good, the stiffer suspension and the lowered body may not be ideal given the road condition.

So I am going to give the standard 335d a try this time. And once I get a better feel, I can decide on what to get the next time I get a new BMW. 🙂