Boeing's biggest deal ever: $18B with Emirates

[K1052]

At least Boeing didn't give away the store to the Chinese like Airbus is doing by handing them a nice new assembly plant to study in every tiny detail.

 

[EagleKeeper]

At least Boeing didn't give away the store to the Chinese like Airbus is doing by handing them a nice new assembly plant to study in every tiny detail.

5 years from now; Chinese will not need Airbus.

They did the same thing with the MIGs from Russia and high speed rail from Europe

 

[EagleKeeper]

Which does kind of show what suckers we are. We should force the Chinese to invest in the US if they want to sell their lead-painted plastic trash here.

No argument here.

Politicians do not control investments; just exports

 

[BlahBlahYouToo]

They didn't buy those planes because they're our allies. They bought them because the 777 is an excellent airliner.

exactly.
i view any muslim nation as an enemy of the US.

 

[K1052]

5 years from now; Chinese will not need Airbus.

They did the same thing with the MIGs from Russia and high speed rail from Europe

Yep, the narrow body market will be the first to go once they work out the kinks in the C919 and undercut all 737/A320 sales. I don't know how many companies this has to happen to before all industries wise up.

Hopefully Airbus is not dumb enough to let them in on A350 production. Boeing is sure as hell not going to let them build 787s if they didn't even trust them with the 737.

 

[ichy]

Fortunately quality still matters when it comes to commercial airlines. They Chinese are good at stealing and producing cheap crap, but it'll be a while before they can match Boeing & Airbus for quality. Embraer is more likely to grab a slice of the narrow-body market at this point if they build something larger than the E195.

 

[ichy]

At least Boeing didn't give away the store to the Chinese like Airbus is doing by handing them a nice new assembly plant to study in every tiny detail.

They did outsource 787 wing production to Japan, but at least they got billions in Japanese gov't subsidies in return.

 

[K1052]

They did outsource 787 wing production to Japan, but at least they got billions in Japanese gov't subsidies in return.

Japan also has no designs on domestic airliner production and they buy a lot of planes. I wouldn't expect Boeing to ever grant final assembly to a foreign country, certainly never a developing industrial power.

 

[JeffreyLebowski]

I don't know about you guys, but I won't fly in a Chinese made aircraft. Hell, I wouldn't ride in a chinese made car.

 

[JeffreyLebowski]

As people cheer this, I hear Boeing is a 'proxy lobbyist' for China. China knows they can't legally lobby Washington, so instead they have Boeing do it on their behalf.

They give Boeing compensation and deals for doing so.

Boeing being a multi-national corporation about profit, does so.

You "hear" from where? You'r post as usual is full of it.

 

[Genx87]

You "hear" from where? You'r post as usual is full of it.

The voices in his head.

 

[freegeeks]

They did outsource 787 wing production to Japan, but at least they got billions in Japanese gov't subsidies in return.

not just the wings, 30% of the parts in a 787 are foreign made

 

[KlokWyze]

The question is, what percentage of these exports will be flown back into our skyscrapers?

lol!

 

[freegeeks]

At least Boeing didn't give away the store to the Chinese like Airbus is doing by handing them a nice new assembly plant to study in every tiny detail.

there is not a lot of things to study in assembling the damn thing. The value is in the R&D and the design of the components.

 

[K1052]

there is not a lot of things to study in assembling the damn thing. The value is in the R&D and the design of the components.

There is if you haven't really done a lot of it before. China can probably RE most of the components pretty readily but making them to spec and getting them to fit them together on a line reliably is a bigger challenge.

China isn't interested in doing the R&D, they'd rather rip off the US and Europe to produce a product at much lower cost.

 

[EagleKeeper]

There is if you haven't really done a lot of it before. China can probably RE most of the components pretty readily but making them to spec and getting them to fit them together on a line reliably is a bigger challenge.

China isn't interested in doing the R&D, they'd rather rip off the US and Europe to produce a product at much lower cost.

Get them to invest in the manufacturing plants;
From there; carbon copy.

 

[freegeeks]

There is if you haven't really done a lot of it before. China can probably RE most of the components pretty readily but making them to spec and getting them to fit them together on a line reliably is a bigger challenge.

China isn't interested in doing the R&D, they'd rather rip off the US and Europe to produce a product at much lower cost.

I'm pretty sure that RE some of these high end components is a much bigger challenge then assembling an A320 from existing bits and pieces. The Chinese have access to these Boeing and Airbus parts anyways so that's not a challenge. Airbus has a competitive advantage on one of the fastest growing and biggest markets in the world by setting up an assembly there. All the pieces will still be made by predominantly USA and Euopean companies, the Chinese can screw them together at a far lower cost

 

[K1052]

I'm pretty sure that RE some of these high end components is a much bigger challenge then assembling an A320 from existing bits and pieces. The Chinese have access to these Boeing and Airbus parts anyways so that's not a challenge. Airbus has a competitive advantage on one of the fastest growing and biggest markets in the world by setting up an assembly there. All the pieces will still be made by predominantly USA and Euopean companies, the Chinese can screw them together at a far lower cost

I'm sure the logic at Kawasaki, Siemens, and Alstom was the same at one point.

As soon as they get the expertise to manufacture their own parts reliably and put them together there is going to be real trouble.

 

[RavenSEAL]

"Terrorist" creating American jobs?1?!?! Blasphemy! Impeach Obama! Attack Russia! Surrender to the Chinese!

 

[SandEagle]

i view any muslim nation as an enemy of the US.

sig'd for racism

 

[Nebor]

sig'd for racism

Not that there's anything wrong with hating Muslims as a group, but I'm not sure they're a race.

 

[BlahBlahYouToo]

sig'd for racism

shit, i'm scared.

and i'm not going to "sig" anything because no one gives a shit, but i will quote you for stupidity.

 

[dmcowen674]

Boeing's biggest deal ever: $18B with Emirates

Too bad most of that $18 billion will never be seen in the U.S. other than millions to the Execs.

OWS OWS OWS!!!

 

[Rifter]

sig'd for racism

and what "race" would that be?

muslim is NOT a race.

 

[ichy]

Too bad most of that $18 billion will never be seen in the U.S. other than millions to the Execs.

OWS OWS OWS!!!

Are you retarded? What exactly do you think the thousands of workers at Boeing who assemble the planes (or at GE, or the thousands of other subcontractors) get paid with?