Boehner re-elected to 3rd term

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Jaskalas

Jaskalas

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Boehner cares about one thing. Electability.

In Republican terms, that means giving Democrats everything they want. At least, everything they can get away with handing out. The leaders of both parties want the same thing, their own permanent incumbency and maintaining the status quo.

This ruling class is a duopoly. They are both happy to dole out welfare, to buy votes. Sometimes its minority votes, other times it's military industrial votes. Regardless, all you gotta do a flip a coin and the voters will ALWAYS choose one or the other. After all, how could we not? The ballot is stacked.

America is divided and conquered by a permanent, incumbent, ruling class.

Next time POTUS gives a SOTU and tells you that the Union is strong. Remember that he's talking about his cronies and their vice grip over our lives. Their Union is strong, but our people are hurting from leadership that does not care about us. All they are going to keep doing is consolidating power and money by squeezing us.

What sort of cultural revolution is it going to take in order to unseat the permanent incumbency of the ruling class? What populist movement is needed before additional parties are viable and our votes matter again?

What can we the people do before we start answering to our own tin-pot dictator named Kim Jong-whatever...
 
boomerang

boomerang

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Jaskalas said:
What sort of cultural revolution is it going to take in order to unseat the permanent incumbency of the ruling class?
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IMO, our demise is a forgone conclusion. The cycle will run its course. The electorate has been tamed and assuaged to the point of uncaring. Although, having said that, I did have a thought the other day about the police protestors. While I believe that their targeting is misplaced, I was thinking that what they are doing is railing against authority. Could a movement like that be nurtured and turned in the correct direction? I suppose anything is possible but I don't see the people that could do that.

On another note and one more on topic, I see that Boehner is taking his revenge. Removing his challengers from key positions. Congress operates like High School. Nice. New blood was our only hope and that's been dashed. Bend over America.
 
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FerrelGeek

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You also have the people in boner's district to blame. Too many people ran against him in last year's primary. If the opposition had come to some sort of terms, they may have had a chance to oust him.

The stupidity of the mainstream republican party will only ensure that our next president will be Hillary or Fauxcahontas.
 
thraashman

thraashman

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I remember hearing Louis Gohmert talk about considering putting his name up for consideration. Congrats Gohmert on making me actually be glad that Boehner won in that respect.
 
hal2kilo

hal2kilo

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Made it through his acceptance speach without crying. Good job.
How bout a glass of Merlot.
 
Newell Steamer

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Moving into a the next era,.. united I see.
John Boehner narrowly won a third term as House of Representatives speaker on Tuesday, surviving a stiff challenge from 25 conservative Republicans that may signal a growing split in the party as it takes full control of Congress.

Boehner received 216 of 408 votes, with a growing faction of dissident House Republicans opposing him because they said he had done too little to cut spending and fight President Barack Obama's immigration and healthcare policies.
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To Boenhner's credit - what the hell was/is he suppose to do?

I mean, if you want to fight your opposition, you have to provide some alternative to what you are against, no? Simply throwing a hissy fit, cooking up lies and a shitty lawsuit is weak, of course, but, they have nothing else or more.
 
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dank69 said:
You misunderstand. GOP leadership demands lock step. Dissent will be, and is being, punished.
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Is this limited to the Republican Party or do you feel the Democrats only do this to a much lesser level that you find acceptable?
 
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Genx87

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As his opponents commercial said. We do have electile dysfunction in this country.
 
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This is a good thing imo...Boehner's effectively alienated the Tea Party and is essentially saying that he will no longer put up with their bullshit like shutting down the government to get their way. This means he'll most likely have to reach across the aisle to some of the more reasonable Democrats in the House in order to get anything done. Win win.
 
PlanetJosh

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Wonder how the U.S. stock markets would be affected this year by the vote for him going either way.
 
werepossum

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Doc Savage Fan said:
This is a good thing imo...Boehner's effectively alienated the Tea Party and is essentially saying that he will no longer put up with their bullshit like shutting down the government to get their way. This means he'll most likely have to reach across the aisle to some of the more reasonable Democrats in the House in order to get anything done. Win win.
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Problem is the Dems March in lockstep too, so the only thing Boehner can accomplish is what Obama wants accomplished. The only real change might be shooting down some of the worst nominees.

Two heads of the same snake indeed. Only real difference is that one head isn't quite as keen on disarming us. Probably because that head is too busy hating gays.
 
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werepossum said:
Problem is the Dems March in lockstep too, so the only thing Boehner can accomplish is what Obama wants accomplished. The only real change might be shooting down some of the worst nominees.

Two heads of the same snake indeed. Only real difference is that one head isn't quite as keen on disarming us. Probably because that head is too busy hating gays.
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Two words...two words. This is not a monarchy or dictatorship. Obama wants.....

How about what the people want? How about he work for us, rather than be an imperialist?

I don't give a fuck what Obama wants. He has a head full of ideology and could not give a damn what you or I think is right for this country. He's funded by cronies and driven as such.
 
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werepossum

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compuwiz1 said:
Two words...two words. This is not a monarchy or dictatorship. Obama wants.....

How about what the people want? How about he work for us, rather than be an imperialist?

I don't give a fuck what Obama wants. He has a head full of ideology and could not give a damn what you or I think is right for this country. He's funded by cronies and driven as such.
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They all are. As for what the people want, we get the government we deserve. That's the beauty of democracy, you get the government you deserve.
 
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compuwiz1

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werepossum said:
They all are. As for what the people want, we get the government we deserve. That's the beauty of democracy, you get the government you deserve.
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Then quit voting like a special ed student is the answer!
 
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compuwiz1 said:
Then quit voting like a special ed student is the answer!
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It doesn't work that way. You are the special ed student and it's not because you are stupid but because you have ego that is there to protect you from what you feel. We create what we fear because it is what we really feel we deserve. This is the invisible prison we are in. Self hate is the invisible enemy within, the thing you project and do not know you project on the enemy you create out there that you will not see is yourself. You are the Uroborus, endlessly consuming the self you create. The only way to escape is for the self you imagine is real to disappear. But how in love we are with it.
 
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