Body Builders of AT

[S Freud]

I know that some of you are just skinny nerds and thats ok 😛

I am looking for some advice on bulking up, I am currently 5'11" 170lbs. I have been taking weight gainer 1050 from GNC for the last two weeks and I am almost done adding on the extra pounds that I wanted to.

I am going to be starting a new diet and lifting routine on Monday, any advice on supplements I should take? I have heard that I should take Whey protein, but I have also been doing some reading and I hear small amounts of creatine and some Glutamine would be good to take, anyone have any supplements they recommend?

Thanks :thumbsup:🙂

 

[RCN]

steroids

 

[S Freud]

Originally posted by: RCN
steroids

Preferably a supplement that wont shrink my already little soldeir 😱

 

[RCN]

Originally posted by: S Freud

Originally posted by: RCN
steroids

Preferably a supplement that wont shrink my already little soldeir 😱

I don't want this to become a pro/anti steroid thread but if they are used properly there will be no shrinkage of anything

 

[mrrman]

I use the EAS Muscle Armour drink prior and after working out then I take a 16oz cup of 100% Whey....works for me

 

[NanoStuff]

Body builders scare me. Yes, they can probably beat my ass, but if I manage to avoid that I have a much better shot at living to 80 in my present 'nerdy' form.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: NanoStuff
Body builders scare me. Yes, they can probably beat my ass, but if I manage to avoid that I have a much better shot at living to 80 in my present 'nerdy' form.

Are you talking about the Roid Monsters or those who like to work out and get in shape just to be healthy?

 

[Koing]

Squat

Make sure your getting enough carbs also. Lack of carbs = body will use the protein up for energy instead for it's intended growth and repair!

Don't be afraid of putting on some fat. You can cut later and it is more efficient to get bigger this way then to not eat enough.

Koing

 

[aircooled]

it's funny to hear kids asking how to gain weight. just exercise and enjoy being skinny. one day you will be 30 and the weight will find you.

 

[NanoStuff]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: NanoStuff
Body builders scare me. Yes, they can probably beat my ass, but if I manage to avoid that I have a much better shot at living to 80 in my present 'nerdy' form.

Are you talking about the Roid Monsters or those who like to work out and get in shape just to be healthy?

The obsessive folks, perhaps not necessarily 'roid monsters'. Being fit is a good thing, constantly taking in double the calories of the average person regardless of how well capable you are of burning them off is not quite as healthy.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: NanoStuff

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: NanoStuff
Body builders scare me. Yes, they can probably beat my ass, but if I manage to avoid that I have a much better shot at living to 80 in my present 'nerdy' form.

Are you talking about the Roid Monsters or those who like to work out and get in shape just to be healthy?

The obsessive folks, perhaps not necessarily 'roid monsters'. Being fit is a good thing, constantly taking in double the calories of the average person regardless of how well capable you are of burning them off is not quite as healthy.

If you burn those calories and they are from healthy food what's bad about it?

 

[NanoStuff]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: NanoStuff

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: NanoStuff
Body builders scare me. Yes, they can probably beat my ass, but if I manage to avoid that I have a much better shot at living to 80 in my present 'nerdy' form.

Are you talking about the Roid Monsters or those who like to work out and get in shape just to be healthy?

The obsessive folks, perhaps not necessarily 'roid monsters'. Being fit is a good thing, constantly taking in double the calories of the average person regardless of how well capable you are of burning them off is not quite as healthy.

If you burn those calories and they are from healthy food what's bad about it?

Throughout life, protein-glucose bonds are formed in the body. The more food you process, the more gets 'left behind'. Most significant effects are atherosclerosis and mild visual cues such as 'age spots' or discolourations of the skin and yellowing of the eyes. It's a large part of aging. Also, stimulating muscle growth naturally causes a mulitplication of cells, and because DNA damage accumulates over time with cell replication, the more replication that occurs over a life span, the more DNA damage will accumulate, another major part of aging. It can plain and simply be summed up as metabolic activity, metabolism is life. The faster the metabolism works, the faster the clock ticks. There's also another aspect of a calory reduced diet that increases life-span due to sirtuin expression, but this requires an intake level that most would be uncomfortable with.

 

[Spamela]

Originally posted by: Koing
Squat DEEP

Make sure your getting enough carbs also. Lack of carbs = body will use the protein up for energy instead for it's intended growth and repair!

Don't be afraid of putting on some fat. You can cut later and it is more efficient to get bigger this way then to not eat enough.

Koing

fixed

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: NanoStuff

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: NanoStuff

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: NanoStuff
Body builders scare me. Yes, they can probably beat my ass, but if I manage to avoid that I have a much better shot at living to 80 in my present 'nerdy' form.

Are you talking about the Roid Monsters or those who like to work out and get in shape just to be healthy?

The obsessive folks, perhaps not necessarily 'roid monsters'. Being fit is a good thing, constantly taking in double the calories of the average person regardless of how well capable you are of burning them off is not quite as healthy.

If you burn those calories and they are from healthy food what's bad about it?

Throughout life, protein-glucose bonds are formed in the body. The more food you process, the more gets 'left behind'. Most significant effects are atherosclerosis and mild visual cues such as 'age spots' or discolourations of the skin and yellowing of the eyes. It's a large part of aging. Also, stimulating muscle growth naturally causes a mulitplication of cells, and because DNA damage accumulates over time with cell replication, the more replication that occurs over a life span, the more DNA damage will accumulate, another major part of aging. It can plain and simply be summed up as metabolic activity, metabolism is life. The faster the metabolism works, the faster the clock ticks. There's also another aspect of a calory reduced diet that increases life-span due to sirtuin expression, but this requires an intake level that most would be uncomfortable with.

LOL:laugh::thumbsup: And here I thought you were some clueless guy just talking out his ass. (Glad I don't call you that) I don't know if you are right or not but it sounds like you know more about it than me.:laugh::thumbsup:

 

[Koing]

Nano, most if not all the athletes that I know that train look younger and are far beyond more healthy then people their age. Granted they aren't BB and don't take a lot of supplements or any. None of them are huge though.

People shouldn't go crazy with supplements. Just take things in moderation and eat food at roughly the right percentages.

Koing

 

[Koing]

Originally posted by: Spamela

Originally posted by: Koing
Squat DEEP

Make sure your getting enough carbs also. Lack of carbs = body will use the protein up for energy instead for it's intended growth and repair!

Don't be afraid of putting on some fat. You can cut later and it is more efficient to get bigger this way then to not eat enough.

Koing

fixed

 

[Nutdotnet]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: NanoStuff

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: NanoStuff

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: NanoStuff
Body builders scare me. Yes, they can probably beat my ass, but if I manage to avoid that I have a much better shot at living to 80 in my present 'nerdy' form.

Are you talking about the Roid Monsters or those who like to work out and get in shape just to be healthy?

The obsessive folks, perhaps not necessarily 'roid monsters'. Being fit is a good thing, constantly taking in double the calories of the average person regardless of how well capable you are of burning them off is not quite as healthy.

If you burn those calories and they are from healthy food what's bad about it?

Throughout life, protein-glucose bonds are formed in the body. The more food you process, the more gets 'left behind'. Most significant effects are atherosclerosis and mild visual cues such as 'age spots' or discolourations of the skin and yellowing of the eyes. It's a large part of aging. Also, stimulating muscle growth naturally causes a mulitplication of cells, and because DNA damage accumulates over time with cell replication, the more replication that occurs over a life span, the more DNA damage will accumulate, another major part of aging. It can plain and simply be summed up as metabolic activity, metabolism is life. The faster the metabolism works, the faster the clock ticks. There's also another aspect of a calory reduced diet that increases life-span due to sirtuin expression, but this requires an intake level that most would be uncomfortable with.

LOL:laugh::thumbsup: And here I thought you were some clueless guy just talking out his ass. (Glad I don't call you that) I don't know if you are right or not but it sounds like you know more about it than me.:laugh::thumbsup:

Ha...I'd rather have a few "skin spots" then be a nerd.

 

[dug777]

Hey guy 😉

i don't know about teh whole weight gain game (since i can't really put on f-all at this stage, no matter how much i eat), but just get some decent excercise daily, eat sensibly, and that will do far more for you in the long run that obsessively pumping iron & taking massive quantities of protein shakes...

 

[NanoStuff]

Originally posted by: Koing
Nano, most if not all the athletes that I know that train look younger and are far beyond more healthy then people their age. Granted they aren't BB and don't take a lot of supplements or any. None of them are huge though.

People shouldn't go crazy with supplements. Just take things in moderation and eat food at roughly the right percentages.

Koing

That's good advice, and indeed athletes do look healthy for obvious reasons, and certainly they are more healthy than the next guy. Physical exercise is a compromise, it increases cardiovascular efficiency but also increases the amount of 'bad stuff'. No physical exercise requires less intake, thus less 'bad stuff', but poor cardiovascular efficiency and inevitably heart disease later in life. It seems to me that for longevity, the ideal balance is exercise that increases visible muscle mass as little as possible while having maximum effect on cardio, things like running, swimming, biking rather than weight lifting; any exercise that gets your heart rate up without posing excessive stress on the muscles, and then keeping this exercise in moderation standardizing your resting heart rate no higher than 1bps.

On the other hand, being a big macho man isn't exactly unhealthy as long as you do it the 'right way', and I'm sure we all know what that is. It's just a compromise giving strength in return for some years off the top of your life. Bottom line is, it's important not to be fooled by the belief that the more muscle you have, the longer you will live. In many extreme cases the very opposite will happen to a significant extent.

 

[CKent]

Ew, weight-gainer formula... *touches OP with 10-foot pole* 😛

You have to eat like it's your job. No one enjoys eating the right amounts of the right foods to bulk up. Skinny people don't eat enough period, and fat people eat too much fat & carbs and too little lean protein. You should be taking in 3-4k calories a day including at least 1g protein per pound of bodyweight (eg. 170+ grams of protein for you). I think proper eating (rather, lack thereof) is the biggest thing keeping people who'd like to put on muscle from doing so. Couple that with proper lifting and enough sleep and you should get bigger.

 

[NanoStuff]

Originally posted by: RBachman
You should be taking in 3-4k calories a day

Can't agree with that one. Nothing particularly wrong with taking in 3-4k a day if you require it, however I take in around 1.4-2k/day for the reasons I mentioned above. I actually feel more energetic with this amount... 3k would make me feel relatively slumpy, probably for the reason that a LOT of energy is required to process the food itself.

 

[Conky]

Weight Gain 4000.

/end thread

 

[Koing]

Originally posted by: NanoStuff

Originally posted by: Koing
Nano, most if not all the athletes that I know that train look younger and are far beyond more healthy then people their age. Granted they aren't BB and don't take a lot of supplements or any. None of them are huge though.

People shouldn't go crazy with supplements. Just take things in moderation and eat food at roughly the right percentages.

Koing

That's good advice, and indeed athletes do look healthy for obvious reasons, and certainly they are more healthy than the next guy. Physical exercise is a compromise, it increases cardiovascular efficiency but also increases the amount of 'bad stuff'. No physical exercise requires less intake, thus less 'bad stuff', but poor cardiovascular efficiency and inevitably heart disease later in life. It seems to me that for longevity, the ideal balance is exercise that increases visible muscle mass as little as possible while having maximum effect on cardio, things like running, swimming, biking rather than weight lifting; any exercise that gets your heart rate up without posing excessive stress on the muscles, and then keeping this exercise in moderation standardizing your resting heart rate no higher than 1bps.

On the other hand, being a big macho man isn't exactly unhealthy as long as you do it the 'right way', and I'm sure we all know what that is. It's just a compromise giving strength in return for some years off the top of your life. Bottom line is, it's important not to be fooled by the belief that the more muscle you have, the longer you will live. In many extreme cases the very opposite will happen to a significant extent.

Sod longevity 😛

As long as I live past 75+ that will do me. If less, not much I can do.

I don't believe getting stronger and bigger in a modarate size is going to take any years of my life. I'm not expecting to live forever 😛. I just want to maximise my training years now and I'll adapt my training when I get older 35yrs+. Of course I don't want to get too big as it is a hassle to do my other sports properly and to have decent cardio when your 220lbs+

Koing

 

[Koing]

Originally posted by: NanoStuff

Originally posted by: RBachman
You should be taking in 3-4k calories a day

Can't agree with that one. Nothing particularly wrong with taking in 3-4k a day if you require it, however I take in around 1.4-2k/day for the reasons I mentioned above. I actually feel more energetic with this amount... 3k would make me feel relatively slumpy, probably for the reason that a LOT of energy is required to process the food itself.

Well thats probably why your not gaining much weight.

It depends what your eating to make you feel slumpy and what you do for your job.

Your probably eating too many carbs in one sitting. Break your meals down so they are smaller portions. Eat fruit/ vegs after your meals to get you a boast. It helps 'waken' you up.

There is no such thing as a no gainer. Hard gainers yes. You just have to eat LOADS. When I was 15-18 it was hard to gain weight. You just have to commit to gaining. Eating often and a lot if you can live with it. Everyone that trains at my club gains over time. You just have to eat a lot. As you reach 21-23+ you gain a lot easier.

I'm 22 now and I gain much eaiser now then when I was 18!

Koing

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: Koing
I'm 22 now and I gain much eaiser now then when I was 18!

Koing

Wait until you're 50:laugh: If I didn't lift and do cardio I'd probably weigh the same but I would be fat instead of in shape.