Body Builders of AT

[jonnyGURU]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Koing
I'm 22 now and I gain much eaiser now then when I was 18!

Koing

Wait until you're 50:laugh: If I didn't lift and do cardio I'd probably weigh the same but I would be fat instead of in shape.

QFT.

 

[NanoStuff]

Originally posted by: Koing

Originally posted by: NanoStuff

Originally posted by: Koing
Nano, most if not all the athletes that I know that train look younger and are far beyond more healthy then people their age. Granted they aren't BB and don't take a lot of supplements or any. None of them are huge though.

People shouldn't go crazy with supplements. Just take things in moderation and eat food at roughly the right percentages.

Koing

That's good advice, and indeed athletes do look healthy for obvious reasons, and certainly they are more healthy than the next guy. Physical exercise is a compromise, it increases cardiovascular efficiency but also increases the amount of 'bad stuff'. No physical exercise requires less intake, thus less 'bad stuff', but poor cardiovascular efficiency and inevitably heart disease later in life. It seems to me that for longevity, the ideal balance is exercise that increases visible muscle mass as little as possible while having maximum effect on cardio, things like running, swimming, biking rather than weight lifting; any exercise that gets your heart rate up without posing excessive stress on the muscles, and then keeping this exercise in moderation standardizing your resting heart rate no higher than 1bps.

On the other hand, being a big macho man isn't exactly unhealthy as long as you do it the 'right way', and I'm sure we all know what that is. It's just a compromise giving strength in return for some years off the top of your life. Bottom line is, it's important not to be fooled by the belief that the more muscle you have, the longer you will live. In many extreme cases the very opposite will happen to a significant extent.

Sod longevity

As long as I live past 75+ that will do me. If less, not much I can do.

I don't believe getting stronger and bigger in a modarate size is going to take any years of my life. I'm not expecting to live forever . I just want to maximise my training years now and I'll adapt my training when I get older 35yrs+. Of course I don't want to get too big as it is a hassle to do my other sports properly and to have decent cardio when your 220lbs+

Koing

There's more than just longetivity to the story. Being more mentally stable and capable from a good diet, along with better physical fitness in the old age and fewer complications is certainly worth considering.

Ofcourse when we're talking about 40+ years from now, biotechnology will be so vastly differen that none of this could matter. There are already drugs that break age-related sugar bonds (ALT-711), and there are preliminary successful experiments on DNA repair. IMO from what I've seen so far, it's very probable that these many years from now, if not earlier, we will no longer age. But it's still best to take precautions and be as sensible about it as you can the old fashioned non-drug way incase things don't turn out for the better decades from now.

 

[Accipiter22]

Originally posted by: S Freud
I know that some of you are just skinny nerds and thats ok

I am looking for some advice on bulking up, I am currently 5'11" 170lbs. I have been taking weight gainer 1050 from GNC for the last two weeks and I am almost done adding on the extra pounds that I wanted to.

I am going to be starting a new diet and lifting routine on Monday, any advice on supplements I should take? I have heard that I should take Whey protein, but I have also been doing some reading and I hear small amounts of creatine and some Glutamine would be good to take, anyone have any supplements they recommend?

Thanks :thumbsup:

steak. tuna. chicken.

 

[91TTZ]

Originally posted by: NanoStuff

IMO from what I've seen so far, it's very probable that these many years from now, if not earlier, we will no longer age.

I think that's unlikely

Just about every type of mutation that can occur has occurred naturally. You see people being born with their organs outside their body, people with two faces, missing parts of their body, people that are 8 feet tall, people that are 3 feet tall, etc. You also see people with a disease that causes them to look very old and die while they're still a kid. But you never see anyone born that doesn't age. It just doesn't happen.

 

[Koing]

Originally posted by: NanoStuff
There's more than just longetivity to the story. Being more mentally stable and capable from a good diet, along with better physical fitness in the old age and fewer complications is certainly worth considering.

Ofcourse when we're talking about 40+ years from now, biotechnology will be so vastly differen that none of this could matter. There are already drugs that break age-related sugar bonds (ALT-711), and there are preliminary successful experiments on DNA repair. IMO from what I've seen so far, it's very probable that these many years from now, if not earlier, we will no longer age. But it's still best to take precautions and be as sensible about it as you can the old fashioned non-drug way incase things don't turn out for the better decades from now.

Indeed.

Koing

 

[Koing]

Originally posted by: 91TTZ

Originally posted by: NanoStuff

IMO from what I've seen so far, it's very probable that these many years from now, if not earlier, we will no longer age.

I think that's unlikely

Just about every type of mutation that can occur has occurred naturally. You see people being born with their organs outside their body, people with two faces, missing parts of their body, people that are 8 feet tall, people that are 3 feet tall, etc. You also see people with a disease that causes them to look very old and die while they're still a kid. But you never see anyone born that doesn't age. It just doesn't happen.

I think that is one thing that we won't be seeing in my life time. People that don't age.

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Koing
I'm 22 now and I gain much eaiser now then when I was 18!

Koing

Wait until you're 50:laugh: If I didn't lift and do cardio I'd probably weigh the same but I would be fat instead of in shape.

Yeah I can imagine. I'd have to eat less. But when I'm not training my appetite drops a lot and I don't gain when I don't train.

Koing

 

[NanoStuff]

Originally posted by: 91TTZ

Originally posted by: NanoStuff

IMO from what I've seen so far, it's very probable that these many years from now, if not earlier, we will no longer age.

I think that's unlikely

Just about every type of mutation that can occur has occurred naturally. You see people being born with their organs outside their body, people with two faces, missing parts of their body, people that are 8 feet tall, people that are 3 feet tall, etc. You also see people with a disease that causes them to look very old and die while they're still a kid. But you never see anyone born that doesn't age. It just doesn't happen.

These are just randomized mutations, not nearly everything that could happen has already happened. It is theoretically possibly for someone to mutuate into a cat, but the sequence of changes in the genome required for this are ridiculously improbable. The reason why no human has ever lived 200 years is because the amount of change required in the genes would be high and have to occur in perfect correlation with eachother to make 'sense'. It's like a digital picture of a bird becoming corrupt and the data arranging itself into a picture of a lake. And even if this did occur, there are aging factors that cannot be accounted for with simple DNA, such as the sugar bonds I mentioned. There's no mutation that could occur that could even theoretically allow someone to live forever, such an extended life-span would require post-birth intervention. That's where biotechnology comes in. ALT-711 breaks up bonds, a programmable virus injects 'reference' DNA into all your cells once every decade or so, etc... and you don't age.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: Koing
Sod longevity

As long as I live past 75+ that will do me. If less, not much I can do.

The way I see it it's not so much longevity, as it is quality of life later on. Look at 40+ year olds who don't exercise compared to those who do. There is a HUGE difference in their quality of life. It gets even more pronounced as they age.

I'm 38. I'll be 39 this year. I'm an all natural body builder. My only suppliments are a multivite, protein powder when I bulk and can't get enough food intake, and creatine. I am constantly told I look like I'm in my mid to late 20s. People are very shocked to learn my age. So much so that many will demand to see my ID.

Now, is any or all of that due to exercise, or genetics? Probably a little of both. But the point is, I feel like crap if I don't exercise for any period of time. When I do exercise, I FEEL years younger and my activity and energy levels are far higher, thus improving my quality of life.