BMW meet canyon run accident, 1 dead

[boyRacer]

Originally posted by: Nebor
I bet you James died doing something he really enjoyed though.... :beer: to that.

He wasn't driving... i doubt he was enjoying it.

 

[Hammer]

i can't believe it burst into flames. i've seen a 5 series roll at over 150 mph and the driver walk away without a scratch.

 

[BigSmooth]

Originally posted by: Phocas

Originally posted by: Astaroth33

Originally posted by: OS

1. Street Racing (felony)
2. 1st Degree Murder (life in prison w/ or w/o parole)
3. Speeding
4. Exceeding 100 mph (felony)
5. Endangering Passengers

#s 1 and 4 are not felonies, they are misdemeanors. #2 does not apply; because there was no intent to kill the passenger, how could it possibly be 1st degree murder? It would be involuntary or vehicular manslaughter.

I used to work with a guy who hit and killed a bystander during a street race. In California. He was paroled from prison after approximately three years for vehicular manslaughter, and was only in prison that long because he had fled the scene following the incident.

Just what i was going to say, Manslaughter at most.

Wrong. http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=1631396

 

[Optimus]

still wholeheartedly endorse street racing though. It's a dangerous sport, just like many others. ANd it's dangerous to innocent bystanders, just like many others. (REmember that grandma that was killed by a baseball? Or those people who got crushed by a flying F1 tire?)

I hope you don't kill anyone else when the inevitable happens.

 

[StageLeft]

Originally posted by: Nebor
I bet you James died doing something he really enjoyed though.... :beer: to that.

Probably. I can say that for me I've always had a dream of screaming while a car burns around me. It's just something that sounds really enjoyable.

 

[StageLeft]

I can't believe Nebor is anything but a troll; nobody could be this idiotic. BTW I can't see this being "murder", but vehicular manslaughter seems more liek what it will be.

 

[Aharami]

Originally posted by: KahunaHube

Originally posted by: Nebor
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Nah, not making it up. Those pics of my lil' street racer.

your ride sucks.

i second that. why in the world would you soup up a pickup?! what u wanna be able to haul stuff around and still do 100+ while doing so?

 

[Viper GTS]

Originally posted by: Aharami

Originally posted by: KahunaHube

Originally posted by: Nebor
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Nah, not making it up. Those pics of my lil' street racer.

your ride sucks.

i second that. why in the world would you soup up a pickup?! what u wanna be able to haul stuff around and still do 100+ while doing so?

Nebor may be a troll, but you're making yourself look pretty damn st00pid.

I suggest you do some reading.

Viper GTS

 

[StageLeft]

Originally posted by: Viper GTS

Originally posted by: Aharami

Originally posted by: KahunaHube

Originally posted by: Nebor
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Nah, not making it up. Those pics of my lil' street racer.

your ride sucks.

i second that. why in the world would you soup up a pickup?! what u wanna be able to haul stuff around and still do 100+ while doing so?

Nebor may be a troll, but you're making yourself look pretty damn st00pid.

I suggest you do some reading.

Viper GTS

I guess a better question then is why did FORD soup it up? The SVT Lightning is a pretty stupid vehicle IMO. I'm aware that it's fast, but a fast pickup? Might as well go watch the 18-wheeler cab races on tv

 

[LikeLinus]

Originally posted by: Skoorb

Originally posted by: Viper GTS

Originally posted by: Aharami

Originally posted by: KahunaHube

Originally posted by: Nebor
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Nah, not making it up. Those pics of my lil' street racer.

your ride sucks.

i second that. why in the world would you soup up a pickup?! what u wanna be able to haul stuff around and still do 100+ while doing so?

Nebor may be a troll, but you're making yourself look pretty damn st00pid.

I suggest you do some reading.

Viper GTS

I guess a better question then is why did FORD soup it up? The SVT Lightning is a pretty stupid vehicle IMO. I'm aware that it's fast, but a fast pickup? Might as well go watch the 18-wheeler cab races on tv

I think someones jealous that it'll outrun any car they own.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: SHoddyCOmp

Originally posted by: Nebor
I bet you James died doing something he really enjoyed though.... :beer: to that.

He wasnt driving though, the passenger seat is probably scarry enough, the back seat you see even less. I would be scared to death going those speeds, but I guess he thought it was all under control. No pun intended. I guess its a possibility he was though but.... damn no matter how you look at it, thats not a good way to go out.

Oh, I forgot he wasn't the driver. That sucks then. Why would you go along if you didn't have your own BMW? Another reason never to ride in the back of a two door....

I still wholeheartedly endorse street racing though. It's a dangerous sport, just like many others. ANd it's dangerous to innocent bystanders, just like many others. (REmember that grandma that was killed by a baseball? Or those people who got crushed by a flying F1 tire?)

You are an idiot and should not be allowed near a car then.

 

[Viper GTS]

Originally posted by: Skoorb

Originally posted by: Viper GTS

Originally posted by: Aharami

Originally posted by: KahunaHube

Originally posted by: Nebor
http://home.comcast.net/~dianthos/light.jpg
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Nah, not making it up. Those pics of my lil' street racer.

your ride sucks.

i second that. why in the world would you soup up a pickup?! what u wanna be able to haul stuff around and still do 100+ while doing so?

Nebor may be a troll, but you're making yourself look pretty damn st00pid.

I suggest you do some reading.

Viper GTS

I guess a better question then is why did FORD soup it up? The SVT Lightning is a pretty stupid vehicle IMO. I'm aware that it's fast, but a fast pickup? Might as well go watch the 18-wheeler cab races on tv

That fast pickup will spank an M3 in the 1/4 mile, & surprise the unsuspecting Z28/SS Camaro.

Viper GTS

 

[Aharami]

Originally posted by: Viper GTS

Originally posted by: Skoorb

Originally posted by: Viper GTS

Originally posted by: Aharami

Originally posted by: KahunaHube

Originally posted by: Nebor
http://home.comcast.net/~dianthos/light.jpg
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http://home.comcast.net/~dianthos/tire1.JPG
http://home.comcast.net/~dianthos/tire2.JPG

Nah, not making it up. Those pics of my lil' street racer.

your ride sucks.

i second that. why in the world would you soup up a pickup?! what u wanna be able to haul stuff around and still do 100+ while doing so?

Nebor may be a troll, but you're making yourself look pretty damn st00pid.

I suggest you do some reading.

Viper GTS

I guess a better question then is why did FORD soup it up? The SVT Lightning is a pretty stupid vehicle IMO. I'm aware that it's fast, but a fast pickup? Might as well go watch the 18-wheeler cab races on tv

That fast pickup will spank an M3 in the 1/4 mile, & surprise the unsuspecting Z28/SS Camaro.

Viper GTS

yea but its still a pickup. no class

 

[StageLeft]

I think someones jealous that it'll outrun any car they own.

Try again. It's a stupid vehicle.

That fast pickup will spank an M3 in the 1/4 mile, & surprise the unsuspecting Z28/SS Camaro

And then die around the first bend The thing is stupid, not because it isn't fast, but because it's a pickup truck. It's like putting low profile dubs on a minivan, a functional wing on a geo metro, or drag slicks on a cavalier. Just because somebody can do something doesn't mean they should; that power should be put into a platform intended for power with a lower center of gravity...not a "pickup truck". Really it's a conflict of interests. It's essentially a muscle car that is only good for straight lines and looks ugly to boot, because I'm sure few use the bed for anything.

*BONUS REASON* It attracts people like nebor.

 

[Aharami]

pickup trucks with power is ok i guess. they are meant to tow and haul stuff. its when they are lowered and a body kit is added is what doesnt make sense.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: Viper GTS

That fast pickup will spank an M3 in the 1/4 mile, & surprise the unsuspecting Z28/SS Camaro.

Viper GTS

No it won't. M3 will spank the SVT Lightning. So will the Camaro.

M3
HP: 333hp
Curb weight: 3400lbs
0-60: 4.8 seconds
1/4 mile: 13.5 @ 105mph

SVT Lightning
HP: 380hp
Curb weight: 4600lbs
0-60: 5.8 seconds
1/4 mile: 14.1 @ 98.9mph

 

[Viper GTS]

Originally posted by: Skoorb

I think someones jealous that it'll outrun any car they own.

Try again. It's a stupid vehicle.

That fast pickup will spank an M3 in the 1/4 mile, & surprise the unsuspecting Z28/SS Camaro

And then die around the first bend The thing is stupid, not because it isn't fast, but because it's a pickup truck. It's like putting low profile dubs on a minivan, a functional wing on a geo metro, or drag slicks on a cavalier. Just because somebody can do something doesn't mean they should; that power should be put into a platform intended for power with a lower center of gravity...not a "pickup truck". Really it's a conflict of interests. It's essentially a muscle car that is only good for straight lines and looks ugly to boot, because I'm sure few use the bed for anything.

*BONUS REASON* It attracts people like nebor.

I hope you're messing with my head, I think you're smarter than this.

http://www.nloc.info/forum/forumdisplay.php?&forumid=430

Viper GTS

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: Viper GTS

That fast pickup will spank an M3 in the 1/4 mile, & surprise the unsuspecting Z28/SS Camaro.

Viper GTS

No it won't. M3 will spank the SVT Lightning. So will the Camaro.

M3
HP: 333hp
Curb weight: 3400lbs
0-60: 4.8 seconds
1/4 mile: 13.5 @ 105mph

SVT Lightning
HP: 380hp
Curb weight: 4600lbs
0-60: 5.8 seconds
1/4 mile: 14.1 @ 98.9mph

No comment? You should really research these things a bit before you make incorrect statements like the one you made above. Somebody might believe them and actually think that a truck could beat a performance car like the M3.

 

[Viper GTS]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: Viper GTS

Originally posted by: Skoorb

Originally posted by: Viper GTS

Originally posted by: Aharami

Originally posted by: KahunaHube

Originally posted by: Nebor
http://home.comcast.net/~dianthos/light.jpg
http://home.comcast.net/~dianthos/light2.jpg
http://home.comcast.net/~dianthos/tire1.JPG
http://home.comcast.net/~dianthos/tire2.JPG

Nah, not making it up. Those pics of my lil' street racer.

your ride sucks.

i second that. why in the world would you soup up a pickup?! what u wanna be able to haul stuff around and still do 100+ while doing so?

Nebor may be a troll, but you're making yourself look pretty damn st00pid.

I suggest you do some reading.

Viper GTS

I guess a better question then is why did FORD soup it up? The SVT Lightning is a pretty stupid vehicle IMO. I'm aware that it's fast, but a fast pickup? Might as well go watch the 18-wheeler cab races on tv

That fast pickup will spank an M3 in the 1/4 mile, & surprise the unsuspecting Z28/SS Camaro.

Viper GTS

No it won't. M3 will spank the SVT Lightning. So will the Camaro.

M3
HP: 333hp
Curb weight: 3400lbs
0-60: 4.8 seconds
1/4 mile: 13.5 @ 105mph

SVT Lightning
HP: 380hp
Curb weight: 4600lbs
0-60: 5.8 seconds
1/4 mile: 14.1 @ 98.9mph

http://www.nloc.info/forum/showthread.php?s=efacaa3c5bc7eedbc58b41816ee805f5&threadid=30606

Granted, most of those trucks have a few mods (mainly chips/pulleys), but you get the picture. Also, there are MANY unmodified L's on the 13 list.

Magazine tests are pretty much meaningless figures unless they're tested on the same track/same day.

Viper GTS

 

[Hammer]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: Viper GTS

That fast pickup will spank an M3 in the 1/4 mile, & surprise the unsuspecting Z28/SS Camaro.

Viper GTS

No it won't. M3 will spank the SVT Lightning. So will the Camaro.

M3
HP: 333hp
Curb weight: 3400lbs
0-60: 4.8 seconds
1/4 mile: 13.5 @ 105mph

SVT Lightning
HP: 380hp
Curb weight: 4600lbs
0-60: 5.8 seconds
1/4 mile: 14.1 @ 98.9mph

pwn3d! :beer:

 

[LikeLinus]

M3
HP: 333hp
Curb weight: 3400lbs
0-60: 4.8 seconds
1/4 mile: 13.5 @ 105mph

SVT Lightning
HP: 380hp
Curb weight: 4600lbs
0-60: 5.8 seconds
1/4 mile: 14.1 @ 98.9mph[/quote]

Motortrend Article

"Big horsepower and not much weight make for an energetic ride to the tune of 13.7-seconds e.t.s and runs 0-60 in 5.2 seconds."

Car And Driver - 2001 Model - 30 Less HP than newer models

"Sprints to 60 mph now take 5.2 seconds, 0.6 second quicker than in the previous Lightning. The quarter-mile now whooshes by in an amazing 13.8 seconds at 104 mph, faster than an SVT Mustang Cobra and only a few ticks behind the $55,675 Mustang Cobra R, which performs the feat in 13.0 seconds at 111 mph. "

Where did YOU get your info from?

Also the majority of people who purchase them put in SuperChips and have them running high 4's or mid 13's in the quarter. It's all in whos driving it.

 

[StageLeft]

Originally posted by: Viper GTS

Originally posted by: Skoorb

I think someones jealous that it'll outrun any car they own.

Try again. It's a stupid vehicle.

That fast pickup will spank an M3 in the 1/4 mile, & surprise the unsuspecting Z28/SS Camaro

And then die around the first bend The thing is stupid, not because it isn't fast, but because it's a pickup truck. It's like putting low profile dubs on a minivan, a functional wing on a geo metro, or drag slicks on a cavalier. Just because somebody can do something doesn't mean they should; that power should be put into a platform intended for power with a lower center of gravity...not a "pickup truck". Really it's a conflict of interests. It's essentially a muscle car that is only good for straight lines and looks ugly to boot, because I'm sure few use the bed for anything.

*BONUS REASON* It attracts people like nebor.

I hope you're messing with my head, I think you're smarter than this.

http://www.nloc.info/forum/forumdisplay.php?&forumid=430

Viper GTS

OK but seriously it's a pickup truck. Pickup TRUCK.

 

[Viper GTS]

Look at #205 on the list I just posted.

Viper GTS

 

[LikeLinus]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: Viper GTS

That fast pickup will spank an M3 in the 1/4 mile, & surprise the unsuspecting Z28/SS Camaro.

Viper GTS

No it won't. M3 will spank the SVT Lightning. So will the Camaro.

M3
HP: 333hp
Curb weight: 3400lbs
0-60: 4.8 seconds
1/4 mile: 13.5 @ 105mph

SVT Lightning
HP: 380hp
Curb weight: 4600lbs
0-60: 5.8 seconds
1/4 mile: 14.1 @ 98.9mph

No comment? You should really research these things a bit before you make incorrect statements like the one you made above. Somebody might believe them and actually think that a truck could beat a performance car like the M3.

Tell when you plan on eating those words. I want to watch.

13.7-seconds at Motortrend vs a 13.5 for the M3. Two tenths of a difference with anyone (with half a brain about cars) can tell you that temperature, driver, altitude, track, and a variety of other things can make either one on top for a day.

 

[LikeLinus]

Originally posted by: Skoorb

Originally posted by: Viper GTS

Originally posted by: Skoorb

I think someones jealous that it'll outrun any car they own.

Try again. It's a stupid vehicle.

That fast pickup will spank an M3 in the 1/4 mile, & surprise the unsuspecting Z28/SS Camaro

And then die around the first bend The thing is stupid, not because it isn't fast, but because it's a pickup truck. It's like putting low profile dubs on a minivan, a functional wing on a geo metro, or drag slicks on a cavalier. Just because somebody can do something doesn't mean they should; that power should be put into a platform intended for power with a lower center of gravity...not a "pickup truck". Really it's a conflict of interests. It's essentially a muscle car that is only good for straight lines and looks ugly to boot, because I'm sure few use the bed for anything.

*BONUS REASON* It attracts people like nebor.

I hope you're messing with my head, I think you're smarter than this.

http://www.nloc.info/forum/forumdisplay.php?&forumid=430

Viper GTS

OK but seriously it's a pickup truck. Pickup TRUCK.

And you're a CANUCK. What's your point?