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BMW M5 - Every other car looks weak in comparison

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I'm not saying that the M5 is the end all be all...

You didn't start the ludicrous topic.


...that Cobra can pretty much "chew up" almost every car out on the road today?

Is that supposed to be a question? I'd rather have a machine with cubic inches than RPM for power, and the results speak for themselves.

What passes for your average "sports car" today IS pathetic, yes.


In a drag race, yes. In nearly any other situation, no.

The Cobra pulled close to 1G on the skidpad with bias ply tires...
 
Originally posted by: LongCoolMother
my friend seems to think m3=god. M3>Z06. What do you guys think?
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Uhhh, I don't know of many situations where the Z06 would get its ass handed to it by an M3.
 
Originally posted by: LongCoolMother
my friend seems to think m3=god. M3>Z06. What do you guys think?
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Your friend is like one those people who jump on bandwagons. Probablt the same people that say Skyline>McLaren F1. 😕

I will take a Z06 over an M3 any day.
 
Originally posted by: Ornery

The Cobra pulled close to 1G on the skidpad with bias ply tires...
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a. A skidpad is not a racetrack. Ultimate grip != handling.

b. I betcha that was a 289, not a 427.

c. This thread is dumb, but your comments are dumber. The M5 is a midsize sports/luxury sedan that seats 4 and has a large trunk, wheras the Cobra is a barely-streetable, stripped-down hot rod. You might as well make your point by arguing that the M5 is slower than a top fuel dragster.
 
Every other car looks weak in comparison

Did I create the topic?

A normally aspirated 427 is TOTALLY streetable and that configuration would not have to cost anywhere near $80K. Which would win in the twisties? I'd like to see, but 4,000lbs ain't an asset.
 
Originally posted by: NFS4
Originally posted by: LongCoolMother
my friend seems to think m3=god. M3>Z06. What do you guys think?
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Uhhh, I don't know of many situations where the Z06 would get its ass handed to it by an M3.
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Fanboi shootout on a computer hardware forum?
 
Originally posted by: Ornery
I'm not saying that the M5 is the end all be all...

You didn't start the ludicrous topic.


...that Cobra can pretty much "chew up" almost every car out on the road today?

Is that supposed to be a question? I'd rather have a machine with cubic inches than RPM for power, and the results speak for themselves.

What passes for your average "sports car" today IS pathetic, yes.


In a drag race, yes. In nearly any other situation, no.

The Cobra pulled close to 1G on the skidpad with bias ply tires...
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Any event with a bend involved and the M5 will destroy any Cobra. Hands down. No question.
 
Originally posted by: Ornery

  1. Any event with a bend involved and the Cobra will destroy any M5. Hands down. No question. Yep, that's fact.
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Yeah, because there have been no improvements in body control and suspension in the last 30 years. :roll:
 
Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
Originally posted by: Ornery

  1. Any event with a bend involved and the Cobra will destroy any M5. Hands down. No question. Yep, that's fact.
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Yeah, because there have been no improvements in body control and suspension in the last 30 years. :roll:
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don't forget - the shelby is coming out (2007 right?) isn't it supposed to do 0-60 < 4s?
 
Originally posted by: Fenixgoon
Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
Originally posted by: Ornery

  1. Any event with a bend involved and the Cobra will destroy any M5. Hands down. No question. Yep, that's fact.
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Yeah, because there have been no improvements in body control and suspension in the last 30 years. :roll:
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don't forget - the shelby is coming out (2007 right?) isn't it supposed to do 0-60 < 4s?
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No, I will forget it. It's not a 30yr old Cobra!! 😛

Screw it, lets just put a 454 in a Model T and see how fast that goes. I bet it would rinse the M5, cause it has 1337 p0wxors.

Hahahahha!
 
Put the M5 in this list where you think it belongs, and the Cobra, shod with decent rubber:
  1. 1 min 18.9 secs - Maserati MC12
    1 min 19.0 secs - FERRARI ENZO ( MUAHAHAHAHAHA )
    1 min 19.0 secs - Radical SR3
    1 min 19.5 secs - Ariel Atom Turbo
    1 min 19.8 secs - Porsche CGT
    1 min 20.9 secs - Mercedes-McLaren SLR
    1 min 21.9 secs - Ford GT
    1 min 22.3 secs - Ferrari 360 Challenge Stradale
    1 min 22.3 secs - Porsche 911 GT3 RS
    1 min 22.6 secs - Westfield XTR2
    1 min 23.7 secs - Lamborghini Murcielago (2nd run)
    1 min 23.8 secs - Pagani Zonda C12 S
    1 min 23.9 secs - Koenigsegg CC8S
    1 min 24.0 secs - Ariel Atom
    1 min 24.8 secs - Mitsubishi EVO VIII FQ-400
    1 min 25.0 secs - Caterham R400
    1 min 25.0 secs - Noble M12 GTO-3
    1 min 25.8 secs -Morgan Aero 8 GT
    1 min 25.9 secs - Lamborghini Gallardo e-gear (Wet)
    1 min 26.0 secs - Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VIII MR FQ-320
    1 min 26.8 secs - Ferrari 575 HGTC
    1 min 26.8 secs - Chevrolet Corvette C6
    1 min 26.9 secs - Mercedes CLS AMG -
    1 min 26.9 secs - Lotus Exige S2 (Wet)
    1 min 27.0 secs - TVR T350C
    1 min 27.1 secs - Aston Martin DB9
    1 min 27.1 secs - Aston Martin Vanquish S
    1 min 27.2 secs - Porsche 911 GT3 (Wet)
    1 min 27.3 secs - Spyker C8
    1 min 28.0 secs - BMW M3 CSL (Dry/Damp)
    1 min 28.2 secs - Lotus Elise Sport 190
    1 min 28.5 secs - Dodge Viper SRT-10 (wet)
    1 min 28.7 secs - MTM Bimoto
    1 min 28.9 secs - Mitsubishi EVO VIII FQ-300
    1 min 28.9 secs - Porsche 911 997 Carrera S (Very Wet)
    1 min 29.0 secs - Lamborghini Murcielago
    1 min 29.0 secs - Mercedes-Benz CL65 AMG
    1 min 29.0 secs - BMW Alpina Z8
    1 min 29.4 secs - AS One
    1 min 29.4 secs - Subaru Impreza WRX STi WR1
    1 min 30.1 secs - Subaru Impreza Sti Type UK PPP
    1 min 30.4 secs - Aston Martin DB7 GT
    1 min 30.9 secs - Audi S4
    1 min 31.0 secs - Porsche 911 Turbo (Wet)
    1 min 31.3 secs - Vauxhall VX220 Turbo
    1 min 31.6 secs - Honda NSX Type-R (Wet)
    1 min 31.8 secs - BMW M3
    1 min 31.8 secs - Mazda RX-8
    1 min 31.8 secs - Nissan 350Z
    1 min 32.5 secs - Lotus Esprit
    1 min 32.8secs - Honda Civic Type R
    1 min 32.9 secs - Noble M12 GTO (Wet)
    1 min 32.9 secs - Seat Leon Cupra
    1 min 33.2 secs - Mercedes SL 55 AMG (Wet)
    1 min 33.2 secs - Honda NSX Type-R (Wet)
    1 min 33.3 secs - VW Golf R32
    1 min 33.7 secs - MG ZT260
    1 min 33.7 secs - VW Golf GTI
    1 min 33.8 secs - Ford Focus RS (32.2secs)
    1 min 34.0 secs - Renault Megane 225
    1 min 34.9 secs - Lotus Elise 111S (Wet)
    1 min 35.0 secs - Volvo S60R
    1 min 35.2 secs - Ferrari 575 Maranello (Wet)
    1 min 35.6 secs - Alfa Romeo 147 GTA
    1 min 35.8 secs - Citroen C4 vts
    1 min 36.2 secs - Aston Martin V12 Vanquish (Wet)
    1 min 36.2 secs - Renault Clio V6 MKII (Wet)
    1 min 37.0 secs - Porsche Boxster (Wet)
    1 min 37.3 secs - BMW Z4 (Wet)
    1 min 37.4 secs - Honda S2000 (Wet)
    1 min 38.0 secs - Maserati 3200GT (Wet)
    1 min 38.0 secs - Honda Civic Type R
    1 min 39.0 secs - Subaru Impreza WRX
    1 min 40.0 secs - Bentley Arnage T (Wet)
I already know this going to break down to an unfair advantage due to a car weighing only half as much, BUT I DIDN'T START THE TOPIC!
 
I'd Expect something around the 1:28 at least from the M5 and the Cobra an arm-twisting 1:36.

We shall see when they take the M5 round. The Cobra we may have a long wait for...
 
If they'd just fire Chris Bangle and get rid of that funky iDrive it might peak my interest...assuming, of course, that I was actually in the market for an $80k sport sedan.

Edit-I've stopped being impressed by cars I'll never own. Besides, I see so many sweet cars around here. Meh, another Ferrari 360 Spyder. Meh, another Maserati convertible. Meh, another Bentley Continental GT. M5's are just your average 4 door sedan. I doubt I'd even do a double take for one of those.
 
Originally posted by: tasburrfoot78362
hehehehehe. I was pleasantly surprised by the Dodge Charger. Seen that on the road for the first time yesterday.
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Yep, Charger is the car for you alright. Heee Haw!
 
I'd take a Noble M400 or M14 over a M5 anyday.

*note that a typical price for a completed Noble M400 in the states is in the $89,000 to 95,000 range. *
 
Originally posted by: Ornery
Put the M5 in this list where you think it belongs, and the Cobra, shod with decent rubber:
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I don't know about the E60 M5, but here's were the E39 M5 lies. The E60 would no doubt be much faster. These are times around "The Ring"

These times were provided to my brother by a Porsche salesman (so caveat emptor):

7:32 - Porsche Carrera GT (7:32.44)
7:44 - Zonda
7:46 - Porsche 996 GT2
7:47 - Porsche Gt3 RS (sport tyres)
7:50 - M3 CSL (sport tyres)
7:52 - GT3 (381hp)
7:52 - Lamborghini Gallardo
7:52 - Lamborghini Murcielao
7:52 - Mercedes SLR mclaren
7:56 - Porsche 996 Turbo
7:56 - 360 stradale (sport tyres)
7:57 - Lotec Porsche 993 Turbo (600 HP, racing suspension)
8:07 - Ferrari 550
8:09 - Lamborghini Diablo SV
8:09 - Ferrari 360 Modena
8:10 - Chrysler Viper GTS
8:11 - Porsche Cayman
8:12 - Porsche 993 Turbo (430 HP version)
8:15 - BMW Z8 400 HP
8:17 - Porsche 996 C2
8:18 - Ferrari F355
8:22 - BMW M Coupe 321 HP
8:25 - Audi RS4 375 HP
8:28 - Porsche 993 C2
8:28 - BMW M5 400 HP
8:32 - Porsche Boxster S
8:35 - BMW M3 Coupe 321 HP
8:37 - Mercedes C32 AMG
8:38 - Honda NSX
8:39 - Honda S2000
8:40 - Chevrolet Corvette
8:42 - Audi S4 265 HP
8:42 - Lotus Exige
8:49 - Jaguar XKR Coupe
8:52 - Mercedes CLK 430
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Originally posted by: NFS4
Originally posted by: Ornery
Put the M5 in this list where you think it belongs, and the Cobra, shod with decent rubber:
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I don't know about the E60 M5, but here's were the E39 M5 lies. The E60 would no doubt be much faster. There are times around "The Ring"

These times were provided to my brother by a Porsche salesman (so caveat emptor):

7:32 - Porsche Carrera GT (7:32.44)
7:44 - Zonda
7:46 - Porsche 996 GT2
7:47 - Porsche Gt3 RS (sport tyres)
7:50 - M3 CSL (sport tyres)
7:52 - GT3 (381hp)
7:52 - Lamborghini Gallardo
7:52 - Lamborghini Murcielao
7:52 - Mercedes SLR mclaren
7:56 - Porsche 996 Turbo
7:56 - 360 stradale (sport tyres)
7:57 - Lotec Porsche 993 Turbo (600 HP, racing suspension)
8:07 - Ferrari 550
8:09 - Lamborghini Diablo SV
8:09 - Ferrari 360 Modena
8:10 - Chrysler Viper GTS
8:11 - Porsche Cayman
8:12 - Porsche 993 Turbo (430 HP version)
8:15 - BMW Z8 400 HP
8:17 - Porsche 996 C2
8:18 - Ferrari F355
8:22 - BMW M Coupe 321 HP <--------------------------------****Little ah heck can move!😛
8:25 - Audi RS4 375 HP
8:28 - Porsche 993 C2
8:28 - BMW M5 400 HP
8:32 - Porsche Boxster S
8:35 - BMW M3 Coupe 321 HP
8:37 - Mercedes C32 AMG
8:38 - Honda NSX
8:39 - Honda S2000
8:40 - Chevrolet Corvette
8:42 - Audi S4 265 HP
8:42 - Lotus Exige
8:49 - Jaguar XKR Coupe
8:52 - Mercedes CLK 430
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Hmmm, I was thinking the Cobra (with decent tires) would hover near the Vette. The Viper kicks ass I see... interesting! :thumbsup:
 
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