Sorry, but from a company analysis stand point it's not grasping. Any reasonable stock analyst would agree that this release is just pure crap. B&M stores are on their way out and BBL continues to carry online. Furthermore, the numbers are exactly what even Sony admits.
Do I dislike sony? Yes, I have a very strong anti-sony bias. I can't stand their corporate policies RE: DRM. I can't stand their spyware or anything associated with that. Furthermore, I have purchased sony CE in the past only to be disappointed by shoddy build contruction, inflated numbers (amp wattage vs real output), and poor customer service.
In reality, I think Sony is a horrible company that is f'ing up what a great man made. The company started off making electrical blankets and rice cookers and built an awesome innovating company. Then morons took it over and have essentially ruined what used to be a market leader in almost everything. I have had 3 Trinitron TVs in the past that I loved, I bought a 4th that broke 2-weeks out of warranty, Sony refused to help out at all, it was an $1,100 tv (quite a bit for a tube). My surround sound receiver had tons of problems, I eventually replaced it with a Pioneer Elite.
Sony can go suck an egg for all I am concerned. They can have their half-assed proprietary formats. I'd rather support an open one myself.
This whole thing is an interesting comparison to Rambus. Yet another proprietary tech that tried to leech IP from JEDEC and then run a parallel technology that was *supposedly* superior through the tech-specs. It was over-priced, you could never prove significant real-world benefit and RAMBUS tried to resort to corporate thuggery to win. I hope that the PS3 buries Sony and it has to declare bankruptcy. Maybe then they'll put somebody in charge that isn't a complete doof.
Same sh!t, different day, different company.
They are keeping that close having that kind of deficit in players? Think when a HD-DVD player is sub 200 bucks at Walmart and thousands of players are moving a week. it wont take long for that pendelum to swing back the other way.
I am not syaing it will but having such a huge advantage in players if you consider the PS3 a stand alone BR device and only outselling the compeition by 450K units isnt something to write home about. This could be the top of the food chain for BR once HD-DVD players pickup.
spacejamz
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the Blu Ray Disk Association has finalized the specs for BD+...
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Fox has been waiting for this before releasing any more titles...
now that it is ready, the floodgate of Fox Catalog titles will be coming soon...
Independence Day, Die Hard 1-3, Alien 1-4, True Lies, Predator 1/2, The Abyss, Fight Club, Office Space, Xmen 1/2, the list goes on and on...
only on blu ray!!!!
Text
Fox has been waiting for this before releasing any more titles...
now that it is ready, the floodgate of Fox Catalog titles will be coming soon...
Independence Day, Die Hard 1-3, Alien 1-4, True Lies, Predator 1/2, The Abyss, Fight Club, Office Space, Xmen 1/2, the list goes on and on...
only on blu ray!!!!
Why is Blockbuster getting so much attention? Who still uses Blockbuster? Netflix is a much better provider for movies. I mean they came out during the start of this war supporting both HD-DVD and Blu-ray. You can look at this in two different ways. HD-DVDs are easier to manufacture so the cost of players are going to go down, people will have much easier times going next generation. Blu-ray is more expensive but does have a lot more studios because of the DRM. So, HD-DVD needs to step up the number of studios supporting it.
:roll: That's what I thought.
If you hate Sony that much, buy the new 2nd gen Pioneer Elite Blu-ray player. At least with Blu-ray you get a choice in hardware manufacturers. Guess Blu-ray's not as half-assed or proprietary as you think it is.
I'd rather have an open format that is region free, reduced DRM, and have full implementation of features. My HD-A2 has all of that.
If you're happy with that, then great for you. But I want a player that has movies from Fox, Disney, Sony, Lionsgate, Warner, Paramount, and I suspect Universal & Weinstein by next year, etc. etc. etc. If you'd ever take off your "I hate Sony" shades, just maybe you'd realize how much you're overreacting to minuscule details. I buy my movies the same way you do, I place them in the player the same way you do, I see the picture the same way you do.
mooncancook
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I'll feel sad if BlueRay wins because that means it'll be even longer before I can buy a HD player, unless Sony and its partners can quickly release one for $200. I don't care about 1080P right now as my TV set is 720p, and that I heard you need a pretty large TV to notice any difference. All I want is a HD player for under $200 so I can start enjoying HD Planet Earth.
Not many people have 1080p yet, so it makes no sense for those people to buy a player with 1080p output.
If you think that studios are going to switch over the sales at this point in the game, think again. By the time either technology is cheap enough for mass market appeal, dual format players will more than likely be much cheaper.
I keep hearing that a Blockbuster deal is going to kill HD DVD, or this BR+ nonsense will, but really HD DVD isn't in trouble until one of it's backers pull out. As long as movies are released there are people who will buy them.
I think the format war will end up being very similar to the console war. DVD is the Wii, only SD graphics but good enough for a large number of people. The Xbox is like HD DVD; it is capable of putting HD content on the screen in an affordable way. BR is like the PS3; expensive but arguably the best technology. My analogy gets a little fuzzy here, because it could be argued that Blu Ray has the better catalog (which the PS3 does not).
If consumers had a choice between the 2 I really feel that they would pick HD DVD (assuming both had the same content). Sony being in the movie industry itself is something that helped them out a lot I'm sure.
If you think that studios are going to switch over the sales at this point in the game, think again. By the time either technology is cheap enough for mass market appeal, dual format players will more than likely be much cheaper.
I keep hearing that a Blockbuster deal is going to kill HD DVD, or this BR+ nonsense will, but really HD DVD isn't in trouble until one of it's backers pull out. As long as movies are released there are people who will buy them.
I think the format war will end up being very similar to the console war. DVD is the Wii, only SD graphics but good enough for a large number of people. The Xbox is like HD DVD; it is capable of putting HD content on the screen in an affordable way. BR is like the PS3; expensive but arguably the best technology. My analogy gets a little fuzzy here, because it could be argued that Blu Ray has the better catalog (which the PS3 does not).
If consumers had a choice between the 2 I really feel that they would pick HD DVD (assuming both had the same content). Sony being in the movie industry itself is something that helped them out a lot I'm sure.
Well, I don't much care who wins, as within a few months I'll have added a PS3 to my collection and thus support both formats. Either way, player prices are dropping MUCH faster because of the format war than they would have if there was a universal standard. How long did it take DVD players to drop to $200? While BR isn't there yet, some HD-DVD players have dropped that low. Although sales of the PS3 are slowing down significantly, the people buying those systems are picking up a few BR discs just to see what the fuss is about - they've got a player, why not try it out?
While I don't want to see the format war go on for too long (I just want all movie and TV show releases to be brought out in high-def, regardless of media format), a little bit longer does help ensure that player prices keep dropping.
While I don't want to see the format war go on for too long (I just want all movie and TV show releases to be brought out in high-def, regardless of media format), a little bit longer does help ensure that player prices keep dropping.
No, because that's not logical. No studio is ever going to be influenced by my 1 player and 17 movies purchased.
I only bought a player once I felt confident enough that one side was going to win, no matter which side it was. I personally have nothing against HD DVD the format, but the rest of the world is choosing Blu-ray in larger percentages, and the extra capacity is just a bonus. I'm happy with my purchase.
WOW...1080p support THAT CAN'T BE USED BY THE HUMAN EYE IN MOST CASES!! WOOO HOOO!!!
Yeah, now with BD+ and other future DRM, you're sunk. Don't forget region coding also.
Great attitude...I am sure there are a hundred thousand other people who think the same way. Apathy at its best.
Your opinion and purchasing power is only worth as much as you choose to exercise it, much like voting. Keep minimizing yourself, it certainly helps you and everybody else.
What does DRM have to do with anything if you're just renting or buying discs? Region coding? HD-DVD has the worst. It won't play content from five of the major studios in *any* region.
It's actually proven that the eye won't be able to resolve 1080p certain TV sizes outside of a certain distance. It's pure biology and widely accepted.
Look sparky, I can tell the difference between 480p source upscaled to 1080i, because it's pretty obvious. Additionally, I can tell the difference between upscaled 1080i to HD-DVD 1080i. However, almost nobody can tell the difference between 1080i and 1080p, especially if you have a halfway decent 1080p tv which can de-interlace the 1080i.
Human visual acuity cannot resolve 1080p from 1080i on a 52" TV at distances greater than 7'. That is biologically proven, it is *IMPOSSIBLE* for the normal human to be able to tell the difference. Now if you're closer or have a bigger screen and watch further away, it might be different. However, you can't ignore the actual biological fact. This is widely known among HD enthusiasts.
Perhaps you should just get a nice simple life. Science, biology, and logic aren't for you. Enjoy walmart.
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