pcslookout
Lifer
Wow another person reports it! Though the fellow from the U.K. reported it first there smart over there!
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Blu-ray losing market share
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Wow another person reports it! Though the fellow from the U.K. reported it first there smart over there!
Netflix just raised Blu-Ray access $1, it is only a buck so no BFD. The e-mail sent out-
DaveSimmons
Elite Member
It's also still $1 if you have a higher-cost plan like 4 discs at once so I can live with it.
Iron Man looked very nice on my 50" 1080p DLP, but I was busy enjoying the very good movie instead of focusing on the image quality.
Since I rent my blu-rays I don't care whether every one is reference quality, they're still nicer than upscaled 480i DVDs.
Iron Man looked very nice on my 50" 1080p DLP, but I was busy enjoying the very good movie instead of focusing on the image quality.
Since I rent my blu-rays I don't care whether every one is reference quality, they're still nicer than upscaled 480i DVDs.
BladeVenom
Lifer
:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:
You're still bitter over the outcome of the format war. Just admit it. Else do tell what your angle is. What made you seek out that article? What about it peaked your interest that you just had to share it around? The exact same concerns were made over dvd when it was introduced. That's all they are. Concerns. Uncertainty. Heck, even Anandtech may not be around 5 years from now, so let's all bail now, as there's no value in it. But you know what? I buy a disc today and it is mine forever. There is no other product available today that compares in audio and video quality.
:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:
DaveSimmons
Elite Member
Kind of:
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"I think the high-definition Blu-ray format has only five years left. I certainly wouldn't give it 10," Andy Griffiths, a regional director of Samsung's branch in the United Kingdom said recently. Samsung is the world's No. 2 seller of Blu-ray players.
"Blu-ray will be replaced with a new format or technology," he said, without giving more explanation as to why he believed that it had a relatively short shelf life."
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Last I checked, Samsung was a Korean company and it hasn't moved its headquarters to Mayberry.
Arkaign
Lifer
Right now, or anywhere in the near future (~10 years or so), there's no logical reason to expect another physical movie format.
(1)- Our TVs are AT BEST : 1080p. So one 1080p format or another isn't going to make any notable difference.
(2)- BluRay prices will continue to fall. This will come to the point where challenging BluRay would be like a competing 480p format coming out to fight DVD and their $29 players and $5 discs. Did anyone try that? NO!
(3)- EVENTUALLY, internet speeds and infrastructure will improve to the point where a 30gb 1080p full uncompressed film can seamlessly be streamed. I wouldn't expect this to be widely available for it to be an issue for another decade though. Think a couple gens of improvement in WiMax, with all-fibre OC192 or better urban backbone, and gbit+ transmit speeds, with consumer-level ~100mbit accounts. That's what it's going to take to make real headway for a transition from physical movie medium to a purely DRM-based streaming/digitally bought system.
(1)- Our TVs are AT BEST : 1080p. So one 1080p format or another isn't going to make any notable difference.
(2)- BluRay prices will continue to fall. This will come to the point where challenging BluRay would be like a competing 480p format coming out to fight DVD and their $29 players and $5 discs. Did anyone try that? NO!
(3)- EVENTUALLY, internet speeds and infrastructure will improve to the point where a 30gb 1080p full uncompressed film can seamlessly be streamed. I wouldn't expect this to be widely available for it to be an issue for another decade though. Think a couple gens of improvement in WiMax, with all-fibre OC192 or better urban backbone, and gbit+ transmit speeds, with consumer-level ~100mbit accounts. That's what it's going to take to make real headway for a transition from physical movie medium to a purely DRM-based streaming/digitally bought system.
I agree that streaming media being a serious competitor is still the better part of a decade out. There's just too many problems with it. Size, convenience, cost, portability, and psychology of not having a physical media are all huge hurdles that it has to cross.
A 30 gig Blu-Ray file can not be compared to a 5 meg iTunes download. It's a horrible comparison and only the only thing similar is how it's delivered.
A 30 gig Blu-Ray file can not be compared to a 5 meg iTunes download. It's a horrible comparison and only the only thing similar is how it's delivered.
.. and with the recent moves by ISP's like Comcast and Charter imposing bandwith limits as a way to "limit P2P" traffic there is another industry that is going to suffer as a result... streaming movie services.
Smart move from the folks who provide HD On-Demand, why let someone else cut into your market share, eh?
I've read the same from others, the explanation I'd gathered was a lot of the non CGI shots were done in 35mm film rather than recorded in a pure digital format. Not sure why you would shoot old film for the "real life" portions of a movie that features extensive editing with digital effects versus using one of the new digital camera systems...
AnitaPeterson
Diamond Member
Having just traveled to Europe extensively in the past two months, I think Blu-Ray is in deep trouble.
In Germany and Holland, with the exception of big retailers, many stores don't carry BD discs or players; in other countries you can't find them at all, regardless where you look.
Let's face it, just as in the case of the "original" divx format, U.S. acceptance alone isn't everything - the rest of the world must embrace it, too... And no, Japan doesn't count. We're talking about China, India, Europe and Russia, with a total combined population of 4 billion people, and surprisingly large buying powers.
That, and the "bag of hurt" recently mentioned by Steve Jobs, evoke a pretty grim future for BD.
I think that, just as in the case of Vista, many consumers worldwide will just skip this digital generation's offerings altogether.
In Germany and Holland, with the exception of big retailers, many stores don't carry BD discs or players; in other countries you can't find them at all, regardless where you look.
Let's face it, just as in the case of the "original" divx format, U.S. acceptance alone isn't everything - the rest of the world must embrace it, too... And no, Japan doesn't count. We're talking about China, India, Europe and Russia, with a total combined population of 4 billion people, and surprisingly large buying powers.
That, and the "bag of hurt" recently mentioned by Steve Jobs, evoke a pretty grim future for BD.
I think that, just as in the case of Vista, many consumers worldwide will just skip this digital generation's offerings altogether.
Not this one. There are a bunch of movies that either just came out, or are going to come out soon that I will be purchasing while there is really only one PS3 game I will get.
KT
Atomic Playboy
Lifer
Ditto. I have a PS3, maybe 15 games and over 100 blu-ray titles. Most blu-ray sites and forums recommend the PS3 as the best overall player, despite it being a video game console, which seems to indicate that PS3 owners are not strictly gamers.
JackBurton
Lifer
My dad, brother and friend all use their PS3 almost exclusively for Blu-ray playback. 🙂
Atomic Playboy
Lifer
The PS3 fails as a game console because it happens to be the best Blu-ray player? That doesn't make sense. That's like saying the PC is terrible for gaming because most people use it to browse the internet. In an age where multipurpose electronics are becoming the norm, especially in regards to home entertainment, having a machine that is a capable gaming console AND high definition media player (not to mention a strong upconverter of DVDs) can hardly be seen as a negative.
The problem with the PS3 is that Sonly was losing money by the bucketload on every console sold. They most easily made this up with royalties from game sales. If you buy the console and never buy a game, that gap isn't closed.
I'm sure they are making *something* off every Blu-Ray disk sold, but it's probably a fraction of what a game makes them.
Shawn
Lifer
No, it fails as a game console because no one buys it to play games. Why do you think it lost most of it's exclusives? People who want to play games buy the xbox360.
Sony has been selling the PS3 at a huge loss. Usually they would be able to make most or all of that money back due to games but that money is not coming in.
dainthomas
Lifer
I bought a BDP-S350 a couple weeks ago for $289. There are some new titles coming out that I wanted in hi def and my A2 won't cut it. 🙁 What I like is the fact that it's smaller in almost every dimension than my A2. So far, it seems to be at least as good an upscaler as my A2.
I would never get a PS3 because I would never play games on it, so why spend the extra $100+?
I bought a PS3 to play movies. Considering I got a state of the art console for $100 more than I would have bought a Blu-ray player anyway was a bonus.
I'm sorry most people don't have the bandwidth to download HD movies in any kind of reasonable time. And companies like Comcast capping downloads doesn't help.
Blu-ray is here to stay for a while.
I'm sorry most people don't have the bandwidth to download HD movies in any kind of reasonable time. And companies like Comcast capping downloads doesn't help.
Blu-ray is here to stay for a while.
techwanabe
Diamond Member
In my case, my PS3 cost $300 using the Sony CC deal so I didn't have to spend the extrar $100 on it. So IMHO, for the price you mentioned, I have game console and a BR player. Win win. My daughter loves playing Oblivion on the PS3 as well as Heavenly Sword. Both look so much better than 480 rez games.
I don't buy BR movies but I get them from netflix and they look nice. The movies I can't get in BR I get in DVD and the PS3 upscales them reasonably well.
And for BladeVenom, your name is appropriate running around spouting venom at people and calling them fanboys for enjoying hi def movies in the only currently producted format. You enjoy your upscaled DVD's and some of us will enjoy our 1080P movies.
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