Blu-ray losing market share

[yours truly]

yep that the number on the back of the box. it works fine on my ps3.

dont get me wrong its a great movie, but the pq isnt as vivid as id expected, for a recent release anyway. saying that, theres not much film grain, and its not soft, but its not dazzling either

definitely worth getting though

 

[erwos]

Extrapolating long-term trends from a month of sales is completely idiotic on so many levels that it's hard to comprehend them.

Blu-Ray's major problem right now is pricing. But, frankly, pricing is the one thing that is almost guaranteed to drop over time. As long as retailers and studios stay committed to BR-D (and there are good reasons for both of them to stay committed), it'll do just fine.

 

[BlahBlahYouToo]

bd is just going to have a tough time with the current state of the economy.
less hdtv's and bd players will be bought resulting in lower bd sales.

 

[JackBurton]

Originally posted by: BlahBlahYouToo
bd is just going to have a tough time with the current state of the economy.
less hdtv's and bd players will be bought resulting in lower bd sales.

This is good. Hopefully they'll drop the price of my TV later this year when I'm planning on buying it.

 

[BladeVenom]

From another source. Blu-ray market share on the decline?

While Nielsen releases its numbers on a week-by-week basis, and a one-week decline isn't a huge deal, this could indicate a rough holiday season for Sony's hi-def format.

Blockbuster's CFO, Thomas Casey, seems to agree with the adoption rate, saying his company "doesn't think [Blu-ray] is going to be nearly like DVD replacing VHS, and in this economy people will be slow to change out their libraries,"

 

[vi edit]

Originally posted by: BladeVenom
From another source. Blu-ray market share on the decline?

While Nielsen releases its numbers on a week-by-week basis, and a one-week decline isn't a huge deal, this could indicate a rough holiday season for Sony's hi-def format.

Blockbuster's CFO, Thomas Casey, seems to agree with the adoption rate, saying his company "doesn't think [Blu-ray] is going to be nearly like DVD replacing VHS, and in this economy people will be slow to change out their libraries,"

Again. Show me the releases during that week. There hasn't been crap released worth buying on Blu-Ray. Or really on any format for that matter. Wait for Iron Man and The Dark Knight to come out and see how they perform. Add in some consumer hesitation when it comes to any friviolous purchase and it's an easy explanation.

Transformers is a flawed release because it already came out on one high def format and lagged the DVD release by almost a year.

I just find the whole thing laughable that people actually WANT Blu Ray to fail since it took over as the sole HD Format. Are you people so bitter that you'd rather have no high def format instead of the one you originally picked?

This is about the best you'll ever get in terms of picture quality and sound in conventional movie media. I can't beleive that people actually put their own personal battles in front of that instead of wanting better quality.

The format war is over. Deal with it. Embrace the new format or lose it completely.

 

[DaveSimmons]

Originally posted by: BladeVenom
From another source. Blu-ray market share on the decline?

While Nielsen releases its numbers on a week-by-week basis, and a one-week decline isn't a huge deal, this could indicate a rough holiday season for Sony's hi-def format.

Blockbuster's CFO, Thomas Casey, seems to agree with the adoption rate, saying his company "doesn't think [Blu-ray] is going to be nearly like DVD replacing VHS, and in this economy people will be slow to change out their libraries,"

As that article admits, a one-week drop is meaningless. The blu-ray share was 5%-6% just after HD-DVD pulled the plug, was bouncing between 8-10% until recently, and is now bouncing up to 12%.

Market share has doubled since January, the trend is (slowly) up not down.

After xmas when many people have bought HD TVs, PS3s and stand-alone blu-ray players the share will jump to a new higher range.

 

[vi edit]

I do have to say though, Sony is *WAY* out of their brains thinking they'd have a 50% market share. They won't even have half that by the end of this decade.

The incentive just simply isn't there, and won't be until there is a lotmore parity in the pricing between Blu-Ray and DVD media and hardware.

 

[BladeVenom]

Originally posted by: vi edit
Are you people so bitter that you'd rather have no high def format instead of the one you originally picked?

This is about the best you'll ever get in terms of picture quality and sound in conventional movie media. I can't beleive that people actually put their own personal battles in front of that instead of wanting better quality.

The format war is over. Deal with it. Embrace the new format or lose it completely.

Epic Fail. I never bought into HD-DVD. If it fails, another format will come along. Your fanaticism that Blu-ray is the one and only possible HD format is what's truly laughable. Most formats fail and something better, cheaper, or more convenient comes along.

Audio-DVD and Super Audio CD both failed, and now digital downloads is now the winner. Same can happen with movies. HD-DVD failed and Blu-ray might fail. Then we'll go to digital downloads just like with music.

Most people are happy with DVD. Upscaling players are a good enough solution till digital downloads become the norm. Or maybe even holographic discs.

You're the one who's being over emotional and scared your beloved Blu-ray might be a dead end.

 

[vi edit]

Well considering I only dropped $350 for a PS3 as a console first and movie player 2nd and haven't bought a single BR movie, I think you are a bit off of your biting analysis.

But keep up the good work with sensationalizing 1 week fluctuations in the media sales market!

 

[Arkaign]

Originally posted by: BladeVenom

Originally posted by: vi edit
Are you people so bitter that you'd rather have no high def format instead of the one you originally picked?

This is about the best you'll ever get in terms of picture quality and sound in conventional movie media. I can't beleive that people actually put their own personal battles in front of that instead of wanting better quality.

The format war is over. Deal with it. Embrace the new format or lose it completely.

Epic Fail. I never bought into HD-DVD. If it fails, another format will come along. Your fanaticism that Blu-ray is the one and only possible HD format is what's truly laughable. Most formats fail and something better, cheaper, or more convenient comes along.

Audio-DVD and Super Audio CD both failed, and now digital downloads is now the winner. Same can happen with movies. HD-DVD failed and Blu-ray might fail. Then we'll go to digital downloads just like with music.

Most people are happy with DVD. Upscaling players are a good enough solution till digital downloads become the norm. Or maybe even holographic discs.

You're the one who's being over emotional and scared your beloved Blu-ray might be a dead end.

The problem is, no company in their right mind will try to launch a new format with Blu-Ray already entrenched. Yes, entrenched. The only sensible possibility would have to be something that offered 1080p/etc/etc, and that would be expensive and start with NO library of movies or existing infrastructure of sold-through players and mfg/distribution.

So. Blu-Ray is IT, like it or no. Nothing replaced CD as a physical medium for selling music because the demand just wasn't there. Audio CDs were good enough for pretty much anyone, so it didn't make sense for someone to buy a $500 player just to have to search high and low for the trickle of releases. 1080p is a lot different though, it looks so much better than DVD that it's ridiculous, so it pretty much sells itself.

Now, as to what will replace Blu-Ray, I have to think that digital/online distribution is the only way. BUT : even with compression, that's a spastically high amount of data, and will only be feasible when ~100mbit fibre is pretty much a standard. So, maybe 8-12 years down the line.

In the meantime, BR players will come down to the $100-$150 mark, and when they do, people will start buying them. It's pretty easy to see that BR will probably become the dominant movie format within 36 months.

<--- not a fanboy, I don't even own a BR or HD-DVD (thought the closeouts on HD-DVD look tempting, $2.99 movies at Fry's last week).

 

[Muadib]

Originally posted by: Shawn
http://www.engadgethd.com/2008...-since-hd-dvds-demise/

I'm quoting this because it appears most here missed it. CLICK ON THE LINK!!

 

[XMan]

Market share will explode as soon as players are less than $200 and media is 20 or less. 30 bucks or more for a movie is friggin' ridiculous. It takes away the impulse buy end of the equation and makes one wonder, do I really need this?

Case in point. Fry's is clearing out their HD-DVDs for around six bucks. I had in the past told my wife it's pointless to buy chick flicks in high-def because there aren't any special effects. She points out Failure to Launch and wants it. For six bucks, it's kind of a no brainer. That was cheaper than the DVD.

When Blu-Rays are on the 14.99 endcap rack on the registers at Target and Wal Mart there will be no issue with market share.

Burnable media is starting to get cheaper, too. ~6 a disk is not bad at all, and cheap enough to make me consider taking the plunge on a burner . . . which are still ~250. They get under 200, I'm in.

 

[XMan]

Anecdote . . . today, at 2PM, the Best Buy in Bloomington, Indiana, had two copies of Iron Man Blu-Ray left. I got the next to last one.

WOW!

This may be to Blu what Transformers was to HD-DVD . . . maybe even more . . .

 

[Muadib]

When I went to Circuit City to buy the DVD, they were loaded with the Blu-ray version. I pre ordered the Blu-ray from amazon, and I'm a little pissed that it wasn't here waiting for me today.

EDIT: The DVD is $13.99 for all of you Blu-ray haters.

 

[vi edit]

Originally posted by: Muadib
When I went to Circuit City to buy the DVD, they were loaded with the Blu-ray version. I pre ordered the Blu-ray from amazon, and I'm a little pissed that it wasn't here waiting for me today.

EDIT: The DVD is $13.99 for all of you Blu-ray haters.

My Blu-Ray rental from Blockbuster should be sitting in the mailbox tomorrow.

 

[hans030390]

Originally posted by: XMan
Anecdote . . . today, at 2PM, the Best Buy in Bloomington, Indiana, had two copies of Iron Man Blu-Ray left. I got the next to last one.

WOW!

This may be to Blu what Transformers was to HD-DVD . . . maybe even more . . .

Ah! Fellow Bloomington resident! Student or no?

Maybe I should go buy the last copy?

That would be special.

 

[erwos]

Originally posted by: XMan
This may be to Blu what Transformers was to HD-DVD . . . maybe even more . . .

The irony is that the Iron Man on BR-D doesn't even look as amazing as some other transfers...

 

[techwanabe]

Originally posted by: hans030390

Originally posted by: XMan
Anecdote . . . today, at 2PM, the Best Buy in Bloomington, Indiana, had two copies of Iron Man Blu-Ray left. I got the next to last one.

WOW!

This may be to Blu what Transformers was to HD-DVD . . . maybe even more . . .

Ah! Fellow Bloomington resident! Student or no?

Maybe I should go buy the last copy?

That would be special.

I lived in Bloomington 1983-1985 (undergraduate) and 1989-1994 (graduate) as a geology student and owned a house in town during the graduate studies. Go Big Red!

 

[hans030390]

Originally posted by: techwanabe

Originally posted by: hans030390

Originally posted by: XMan
Anecdote . . . today, at 2PM, the Best Buy in Bloomington, Indiana, had two copies of Iron Man Blu-Ray left. I got the next to last one.

WOW!

This may be to Blu what Transformers was to HD-DVD . . . maybe even more . . .

Ah! Fellow Bloomington resident! Student or no?

Maybe I should go buy the last copy?

That would be special.

I lived in Bloomington 1983-1985 (undergraduate) and 1989-1994 (graduate) as a geology student and owned a house in town during the graduate studies. Go Big Red!

Yeah, well, if you don't live here now, you just don't count. Sorry. I don't care if you're going to the same school as me or if you support it.

I'll reconsider if I receive a large sum of money.

 

[techwanabe]

Originally posted by: hans030390


Yeah, well, if you don't live here now, you just don't count. Sorry. I don't care if you're going to the same school as me or if you support it.

I'll reconsider if I receive a large sum of money.

This matters to me why? I just thought I'd say howdy to a Bloomingtonite is all. They have copies of Iron Man BR at my local BB in Syracuse - plenty of them.

 

[XMan]

Originally posted by: hans030390

Originally posted by: XMan
Anecdote . . . today, at 2PM, the Best Buy in Bloomington, Indiana, had two copies of Iron Man Blu-Ray left. I got the next to last one.

WOW!

This may be to Blu what Transformers was to HD-DVD . . . maybe even more . . .

Ah! Fellow Bloomington resident! Student or no?

Maybe I should go buy the last copy?

That would be special.

Hehe. No, I live in Columbus, Bloomington's in my service territory.

 

[hans030390]

Originally posted by: techwanabe

Originally posted by: hans030390


Yeah, well, if you don't live here now, you just don't count. Sorry. I don't care if you're going to the same school as me or if you support it.

I'll reconsider if I receive a large sum of money.

This matters to me why? I just thought I'd say howdy to a Bloomingtonite is all. They have copies of Iron Man BR at my local BB in Syracuse - plenty of them.

Originally posted by: XMan

Originally posted by: hans030390

Originally posted by: XMan
Anecdote . . . today, at 2PM, the Best Buy in Bloomington, Indiana, had two copies of Iron Man Blu-Ray left. I got the next to last one.

WOW!

This may be to Blu what Transformers was to HD-DVD . . . maybe even more . . .

Ah! Fellow Bloomington resident! Student or no?

Maybe I should go buy the last copy?

That would be special.

Hehe. No, I live in Columbus, Bloomington's in my service territory.

You both disappoint me.

(if anyone hasn't caught it...I'm joking)

 

[yours truly]

according to blu-ray.com, The Lord of the Rings is scheduled to be released in 2009

if it is and the transfer is good, this could be the turning point for blu ray

im really excited about this one



http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=1881

 

[pcslookout]

Originally posted by: hopeless74
i thought the picture quality of Iron Man on blu ray was pretty weak. not reference material.

The Fall however is :thumbsup:

That sucks. This is exactly why I refuse to go blue ray and just stay with dvd. Blue ray seems to have the same problems as dvd. The movie will not look or sound good if the source is not great. Sucks.