Blood Bath Comin' . .

[CaptnKirk]

Total Control

Well they are running toward the edge of a cliff and are at too high a speed to stop, or even turn.

Maliki counters by sending in more Iraqi Army, the more targets the better he thinks.

And who ends up in the crossfire?

 

[ayabe]

Sadr needs to be killed, in fact if we had finished what we started 3 years ago with him then I think we would be in a much better position now.

We were forced to release on of his chief organizers that we captured on Wednesday and look at the results.

 

[Pens1566]

Mission accomplished

Last throes

 

[CaptnKirk]

Originally posted by: ayabe
Sadr needs to be killed, in fact if we had finished what we started 3 years ago with him then I think we would be in a much better position now.

We were forced to release on of his chief organizers that we captured on Wednesday and look at the results.

Sadr has more support than most of the 'Iraqi Government' - mater of fact he is one of the biggest supporters of Malaki.
Malaki just frustrated the US Command over there by releasing one of the main Sadr operatives that were being held.
It's dog eat dog, and everyones' wearing bone underware.

 

[fitzov]

As long as Haliburton, Bechtel, and all the other war profiteers are making money, then

hey, it's capitalism!

 

[Harvey]

But... but... but... the Bushwhackos keep telling us there's no civil war in Iraq.

In other news, they've launched their new funding proposals to underwrite Santa's workshop, hire extra hens to supply the Easter bunny and start a pilot flouride treatment project through the tooth fairy. :laugh:

 

[techs]

Last throes my *ss.

 

[ayabe]

Originally posted by: CaptnKirk

Originally posted by: ayabe
Sadr needs to be killed, in fact if we had finished what we started 3 years ago with him then I think we would be in a much better position now.

We were forced to release on of his chief organizers that we captured on Wednesday and look at the results.

Sadr has more support than most of the 'Iraqi Government' - mater of fact he is one of the biggest supporters of Malaki.
Malaki just frustrated the US Command over there by releasing one of the main Sadr operatives that were being held.
It's dog eat dog, and everyones' wearing bone underware.

My point is that he is much stronger now then when we first went after him. He is a rabble rouser, and one of the conditions he agreed to, in return for us leaving him alone, was to swear off of violence and join the political process. Now he has his foot firmly in both camps; a sizable faction within the parliament and is still sending his militia out to cause harm.

 

[techs]

Blame Rumsfeld.
When Paul Bremer had the one good idea he had in his year in Iraq, which was to arrest Sadr, the military commanders said they didn't have enough troops to arrest him and still provide protection to Baghdad (read the book My Year in Iraq)

 

[CaptnKirk]

Maliki plays Counter-Strike

 

[Lemon law]

Sadr gets most of the blame---but characters like him are ineveitable in similar situations---he is just the most visible and largest war lord type among hundreds who are setting up shop in Iraq. The same thing happened in Afganistan--with the taliban being the peoples answer---so we get rid of the taliban--now Karzi is mayor of Kabul---everywhere else the war lords rule.
Now the taliban is coming back. Gee ain't civil war fun.

But it was the war lord who took over in Europe after Rome fell---it later stabalised into the fudal system---they called it the dark ages.---very stable form of government---it only took a thousand years for it to evolve into more modern forms like a large nation States under a king.---then another 400 years to transform into democracies---and now we impose dimocracies that turn into defacto government by war lord----------are we making human progress yet?

 

[jackschmittusa]

"When the Iraqis stand up, we'll stand down".

Please re-set the clock.

 

[CaptnKirk]

Bush, "Slay the Horse"

 

[Schadenfroh]

Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
Bush, "Slay the Horse"

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[CaptnKirk]

Originally posted by: Schadenfroh

Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
Bush, "Slay the Horse"

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<Heres what it says>

White House resists major course change in Iraq

President Bush will resist election-year pressure for a major shift in strategy in Iraq, the White House said on Friday,
despite growing doubts among Americans and anxiety over the war among Republican lawmakers.

"If you read a lot of (newspaper) stories, people say for political reasons things have got to change.
Political reasons do not win conflicts," said White House spokesman Tony Snow.

Pressure is growing in the U.S. Congress for a course correction in a war that has cost the lives
of at least 73 Americans in October alone.

"I don't believe we can continue based on an open-ended, unconditional presence,"
Maine Republican Sen. Olympia Snowe was quoted in The Washington Post as saying.

She added: "I don't think there's any question about that, that there will be a change"
in the U.S. strategy in Iraq after the November 7 congressional elections.

Many Senate Republicans are awaiting the results of a special panel led by longtime Bush family friend and former
Secretary of State James Baker, the Iraq Study Group, which is preparing recommendations for a shift in strategy.

The Baker report will not be issued until after the elections, in which Bush's Republicans risk losing control
of the House of Representatives as well as the Senate.

White House officials say the recommendations will be reviewed seriously but have already rejected trial balloons
such as a phased troop withdrawal, a dialogue with Iran and Syria, and a partitioning of Iraq.

 

[jackschmittusa]

Changing course can't be done until after the elections. If the Dems happen to make significant gains, they will then be blamed for the failure in Iraq.

Bush can't admit his adventure isn't working until he has a scapegoat set up. His version of "history" will be that things were fine till the Dems gained some power and mucked it up.

 

[Lemon law]

Political reasons do not win conflicts," said White House spokesman Tony Snow.

There it is---in a nutshell---why we are losing in Iraq.----the problem is military force does not do the job either.

We have no political agenda--no military agenda---GWB&co. has nothing nada zippo zip---and somehow their great white hope is that Jim Baker will?---the same fellow who warned GHB not to get sucked into nation building in Iraq?

Does it now occur to anyone that GWB&co. should have thought about some of this in advance?

But sometimes names say it all---If it wasn't actually their name you could not invent a better one--remember Dwayne Bobitt?----Snow job Tony also says it all.

 

[Moonbeam]

I used to wonder what Republicans were smoking with all their hate of government, but now that they are the government I can see why. They were of the opinion that everybody is as incompetent as they. And thanks to all the morons who love to hate instead of think it's Karma time.

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Can someone remind me again why this is not a civil war?

 

[Pens1566]

Originally posted by: Lemon law
Political reasons do not win conflicts," said White House spokesman Tony Snow.

There it is---in a nutshell---why we are losing in Iraq.----the problem is military force does not do the job either.

We have no political agenda--no military agenda---GWB&co. has nothing nada zippo zip---and somehow their great white hope is that Jim Baker will?---the same fellow who warned GHB not to get sucked into nation building in Iraq?

Does it now occur to anyone that GWB&co. should have thought about some of this in advance?

But sometimes names say it all---If it wasn't actually their name you could not invent a better one--remember Dwayne Bobitt?----Snow job Tony also says it all.

Yes, Baker and Scowcroft were the ones telling 41 not to go any further in GWI. 43's whole thing is to do everything his daddy didn't so he can be better. Typical son trying to show the father he's good enough. Only most times, the son does it when he's ~16, not 60. He is a slow learner after all.

 

[piasabird]

Bring on the Bombs and annihalte everyone.

 

[Pens1566]

Originally posted by: piasabird
Bring on the Bombs and annihalte everyone.

... invade their countries, and convert them all to christianity. Does that sound about right??

 

[Lemon law]

Can someone remind me again why this is not a civil war?----asks DonVito.

Because its not a civil war yet---this is just the warnings that a civil war is eminent at any day---when we have a civil war everyone will know it---no doubts will exist--and the white house rethoric will finally change away from "stay the course."----and our only concern will be can we get our troops out alive. While the conflict spills far past the borders of Iraq--and effects the entire mod-east---and might even ignite another world war.

So to that extent republican fear mongering is correct----be afraid---very afraid.

But is really be Afraid---very afraid of GWB.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: DonVito
Can someone remind me again why this is not a civil war?

Because Republicans do not classify their phoney Wars that way.

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: ayabe
Sadr needs to be killed, in fact if we had finished what we started 3 years ago with him then I think we would be in a much better position now.

We were forced to release on of his chief organizers that we captured on Wednesday and look at the results.

I agree and have lambasted this administration over thier inaction on him in 2004. We should have either taken him out with a 50 caliber to the brain. Or leveled his mosque and sent a msg. We dont fvck around. Instead this pussy footing around has done nothing but embolden these people.

I dont care if he becomes a martyr because they dont talk much from the grave. When was the lasttime Al Zarquawi opened his yapper?