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Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: ayabe
Sadr needs to be killed, in fact if we had finished what we started 3 years ago with him then I think we would be in a much better position now.

We were forced to release on of his chief organizers that we captured on Wednesday and look at the results.

I agree and have lambasted this administration over thier inaction on him in 2004. We should have either taken him out with a 50 caliber to the brain. Or leveled his mosque and sent a msg. We dont fvck around. Instead this pussy footing around has done nothing but embolden these people.

I dont care if he becomes a martyr because they dont talk much from the grave. When was the lasttime Al Zarquawi opened his yapper?
100% agree. We should take him out one way or another, pay the price through heightened violence and then move on. Not doing something about him was one of the biggest mistakes of this war.


And look, two righties in a row complaining about Bush's action. And you all complain that we are blind sheep.
 
In terms of mistakes made in Iraq---just think how much better off we would all be if someone just patched the hole in the rubber GHB should have used on that fateful night some 60 years ago.---some people are just born bad---accidents waiting to happen.

We finally kill Al-Jarquawi---and they replace him with someone more effective---Al-Mufri or something like that--and come to think of it Prof John---wasn't that just about the time when the death toll really started this recent sharp increase?
 
Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: ayabe
Sadr needs to be killed, in fact if we had finished what we started 3 years ago with him then I think we would be in a much better position now.

We were forced to release on of his chief organizers that we captured on Wednesday and look at the results.

I agree and have lambasted this administration over thier inaction on him in 2004. We should have either taken him out with a 50 caliber to the brain. Or leveled his mosque and sent a msg. We dont fvck around. Instead this pussy footing around has done nothing but embolden these people.

I dont care if he becomes a martyr because they dont talk much from the grave. When was the lasttime Al Zarquawi opened his yapper?

You talk as if Sadr is the problem. You kill him and another will appear. What needs to happen is that we get out and let them fight until the dust settles. Whatever comes to power we deal with. It's obvious that these people are smarter than the criminal elements that run this country.
 
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: ayabe
Sadr needs to be killed, in fact if we had finished what we started 3 years ago with him then I think we would be in a much better position now.

We were forced to release on of his chief organizers that we captured on Wednesday and look at the results.

I agree and have lambasted this administration over thier inaction on him in 2004. We should have either taken him out with a 50 caliber to the brain. Or leveled his mosque and sent a msg. We dont fvck around. Instead this pussy footing around has done nothing but embolden these people.

I dont care if he becomes a martyr because they dont talk much from the grave. When was the lasttime Al Zarquawi opened his yapper?
100% agree. We should take him out one way or another, pay the price through heightened violence and then move on. Not doing something about him was one of the biggest mistakes of this war.

And look, two righties in a row complaining about Bush's action. And you all complain that we are blind sheep.

Remind me... whats the difference between an Occupational Force (the USA) executing political dissidents/insurgents to the established government and Saddam doing the same thing?
 
Originally posted by: Lemon law
Sadr gets most of the blame---but characters like him are ineveitable in similar situations---he is just the most visible and largest war lord type among hundreds who are setting up shop in Iraq. The same thing happened in Afganistan--with the taliban being the peoples answer---so we get rid of the taliban--now Karzi is mayor of Kabul---everywhere else the war lords rule.
Now the taliban is coming back. Gee ain't civil war fun.

But it was the war lord who took over in Europe after Rome fell---it later stabalised into the fudal system---they called it the dark ages.---very stable form of government---it only took a thousand years for it to evolve into more modern forms like a large nation States under a king.---then another 400 years to transform into democracies---and now we impose dimocracies that turn into defacto government by war lord----------are we making human progress yet?
Excellent post. :thumbsup:

 
Originally posted by: Lemon law
In terms of mistakes made in Iraq---just think how much better off we would all be if someone just patched the hole in the rubber GHB should have used on that fateful night some 60 years ago.---some people are just born bad---accidents waiting to happen.

One could say the same about yourself.


 
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