Blocking cell phone reception in a Movie theatre.

[vi edit]

Once again, parents of young children prove they're the most selfish, inconsiderate pricks on this planet.

Given my sample size of you and your brother I'd have to give that honor to internet posters from New Zealand.

 

[Andy22]

Once again we want to change rules/laws to the lowest common denominator instead of just enforcing the rules. Easier just to make blanket changes instead of dealing with offenders.

 

[Zargon]

Hmmm, let me see. Having my film interrupted to leave the place and report the issue and then have to spend time and money coming back to watch the film another day versus blocking phone to nip the problem in the bud.

It doesn't have to be legislated either.

I would rather miss 2 minutes of movie occasionally than not be able to go to them lots of the time.


you also can't really equate this to the smoking ban, as my cell being on vibrate hasnt been proven to increase your cancer risk, just mine

 

[Veliko]

Once again we want to change rules/laws to the lowest common denominator instead of just enforcing the rules. Easier just to make blanket changes instead of dealing with offenders.

Who do you actually think is the lowest common denominator being catered to here?. The only people it has a negative effect on are those that cannot deal with their mobile phone not getting a signal for a couple of hours.

This is a good thing for the smarter people among us.

 

[Zargon]

Who do you actually think is the lowest common denominator being catered to here?. The only people it has a negative effect on are those that cannot deal with their mobile phone not getting a signal for a couple of hours.

This is a good thing for the smarter people among us.

no, its dealing with those that are so inconsiderate that they will answer the phone in the theater.

you wont even know why I am leaving the theater, for all you know I'm going ot get more popcorn or soda.

its a bad thing for actual smart people, because we are the ones handling our business without you knowing. the idiots and assholes are the people you are noticing/complaining about

Exactly, you would get fired, so why go to a movie? What help are you in a movie theatre?

because I have been paged ONCE in the last year in the 5 movies I have gone too.

I looked at the page, then left and called work. turned out to be easy and walked back in, and my buddy filled me in on what I missed in the 4 minutes I was gone.

cause no one likes a "by the book bob". i'm floored you never got that yet.D:
ya know you can enforce rules within reason and still be cool, but sounds like you chose to be mr. rule officer hardass and that is why people get rude with you. The other employees 90% of the time are cool, your the mall cop they make fun of behind your back.

no, hes the likely ONLY cool person there most likely, the rest are lazy asses that dont want to do their job most likely. if you are worried about how cool you are perceived, dude, you are no offense) working at a movie theater, that ship sailed when you clipped on the bowtie

 

[vi edit]

Who do you actually think is the lowest common denominator being catered to here?. The only people it has a negative effect on are those that cannot deal with their mobile phone not getting a signal for a couple of hours.

There's really the fundamental issue. Very few people *need* to have unrestricted access to their phones. But a lot of people want it.

Just like I don't need a car that does more than 65MPH (max in my state is 65 on the interstate) but I want the option to do more.

And I don't need a 4 bedroom house when I have three people living there. But I want the option to be able to buy one.

I don't need a V8 engine in a car or truck, but I want the option available.

I don't need a 5 megabit cable internet connection, but I want the option to have one.

I don't need a dual core or quad core CPU but it's nice to have the option.

And I'm sure I could keep rambling things off till I finally hit something that you really enjoy and would be upset to lose the access of.

 

[Veliko]

There's really the fundamental issue. Very few people *need* to have unrestricted access to their phones. But a lot of people want it.

Just like I don't need a car that does more than 65MPH (max in my state is 65 on the interstate) but I want the option to do more.

And I don't need a 4 bedroom house when I have three people living there. But I want the option to be able to buy one.

I don't need a V8 engine in a car or truck, but I want the option available.

I don't need a 5 megabit cable internet connection, but I want the option to have one.

I don't need a dual core or quad core CPU but it's nice to have the option.

And I'm sure I could keep rambling things off till I finally hit something that you really enjoy and would be upset to lose the access of.

None of those things that you listed are the same thing at all. You getting a faster car, a bigger house, a better Internet connection, etc. doesn't have a negative effect on what I am doing. However you having unfettered access to your mobile phone in the cinema does have a negative effect on me.

 

[vi edit]

None of those things that you listed are the same thing at all. You getting a faster car, a bigger house, a better Internet connection, etc. doesn't have a negative effect on what I am doing. However you having unfettered access to your mobile phone in the cinema does have a negative effect on me.

Actually they all can, but continue to bury your head in the sand about it.

 

[Ancalagon44]

because I have been paged ONCE in the last year in the 5 movies I have gone too.

I looked at the page, then left and called work. turned out to be easy and walked back in, and my buddy filled me in on what I missed in the 4 minutes I was gone.

So the only thing you have been paged about in the movies, over 5 years, took you 5 minutes to resolve? Was it really critical then? Could it not have waited until you left the cinema?

You know, I just dont see it. If its critical and urgent enough that lives are at stake, then what are you doing in a cinema? If its not that critical or urgent, then why can it not wait 2 hours? Substitute lives are stake for money if you prefer, but my point still stands.

You dont NEED 24 hour connectivity, you and everyone else around you is just used to it.

There's really the fundamental issue. Very few people *need* to have unrestricted access to their phones. But a lot of people want it.

Just like I don't need a car that does more than 65MPH (max in my state is 65 on the interstate) but I want the option to do more.

And I don't need a 4 bedroom house when I have three people living there. But I want the option to be able to buy one.

I don't need a V8 engine in a car or truck, but I want the option available.

I don't need a 5 megabit cable internet connection, but I want the option to have one.

I don't need a dual core or quad core CPU but it's nice to have the option.

And I'm sure I could keep rambling things off till I finally hit something that you really enjoy and would be upset to lose the access of.

You also want the right to own a gun, correct? But now should you be able to bring that gun into a high school, or a nightclub? Or a plane? No? Isnt that unfair? Isnt that catering to the lowest common denominator, the guy who will bring the gun out and start shooting?

Thats exactly what it is. My point is, you are allowed to desire and have all these things, but with rights come responsibilities. Since people prove time and again that they are incapable of giving a shit unless they are forced to give a shit, I think the best option is to simply remove signal from cinemas. You can still own a phone, you just might be without connectivity without 2 hours. I know, its heavy right? 2 hours without knowing what your buddy is up to or what colour his shit is. But you'll be able to do it, I swear.

 

[Veliko]

Actually they all can, but continue to bury your head in the sand about it.

So list them then.

 

[vi edit]

You also want the right to own a gun, correct? But now should you be able to bring that gun into a high school, or a nightclub? Or a plane? No? Isnt that unfair? Isnt that catering to the lowest common denominator, the guy who will bring the gun out and start shooting?

Which are all prohibited and clearly posted and come with signifcant fines/jail time should you chose to disregard them. So is texting while driving.

But I don't see people clabboring for built in disabling technology for any of those devices that could cause death to another person.

When was another person killed in a theatre with a cell phone anyway?

 

[Red Storm]

I was at a movie theater when I got notice that a kidney had been found for my little sister...

Instead of spending stupid amounts of money to fix a simple problem (I have never seen someone answer their phone in the middle of a movie and continue to carry on a conversation in their seats loud enough for all the hear), just do a better job enforcing the rules. If it's really that common of a problem for some theaters, they should just change their policies so that they can ban people for life.

 

[vi edit]

So list them then.

Higher speeds/power cars lead to more accidents/high damage accidents causing your insurance rates to be higher for your demographic or vehicle type.

Unfettered internet access and constant abuse has lead to bandwith caps on many ISP's.

Bigger houses use up more materials & land making it more expensive for everyone else and raise your tax rates with higher overall property values.

I got nothing on a dual core setup

But the point remains that our choices do have impacts on others even though we might not care about it. And that goes on both sides of the arguments.

There are some things that you might want that others don't. There are some you might not care at all about but others do.

There are assholes every where in our lives. You can't regulate or technologically banish all of them. They'll find a way to continue to be an asshole.

 

[Ancalagon44]

Which are all prohibited and clearly posted and come with signifcant fines/jail time should you chose to disregard them. So is texting while driving.

Its also against movie theater regulations to talk on your cellphone while in a movie. The problem, enforcement of that rule is as intrusive as the act itself.

But I don't see people clabboring for built in disabling technology for any of those devices that could cause death to another person.

If they could disable such devices remotely, you better believe they would do such a thing. If it were possible, they would do it.

I was at a movie theater when I got notice that a kidney had been found for my little sister...

Thats very cool, but my point is, would it have made a difference if you had found out after the movie? Did letting you know early somehow save her life? No, it didnt.

 

[vi edit]

If they could disable such devices remotely, you better believe they would do such a thing. If it were possible, they would do it.

Who is "they"? The government? Car manufacturers? Phone vendors? Gun manfs? No one is going to touch that simply because they know the fury of backlash/financial loss involved.

 

[vi edit]

Its also against movie theater regulations to talk on your cellphone while in a movie. The problem, enforcement of that rule is as intrusive as the act itself.

Then go bitch to your local movie theatre manager and tell him you won't buy another ticket there until they start enforcing their policies. You and enough people do that and they'll start listening.

 

[Veliko]

Higher speeds/power cars lead to more accidents/high damage accidents causing your insurance rates to be higher for your demographic or vehicle type.

Unfettered internet access and constant abuse has lead to bandwith caps on many ISP's.

Bigger houses use up more materials & land making it more expensive for everyone else and raise your tax rates with higher overall property values.

I got nothing on a dual core setup

But the point remains that our choices do have impacts on others even though we might not care about it. And that goes on both sides of the arguments.

Oh please. Those things you listed are utterly inane and can't be compared to the annoyance of a mobile phone going off in a cinema.

 

[Ancalagon44]

Who is "they"? The government? Car manufacturers? Phone vendors? Gun manfs? No one is going to touch that simply because they know the fury of backlash/financial loss involved.

The government/TSA would love to be able to remotely disable anything dangerous of course. There wouldnt be any financial backlash.

 

[Nebor]

You also want the right to own a gun, correct? But now should you be able to bring that gun into a high school, or a nightclub? Or a plane? No? Isnt that unfair? Isnt that catering to the lowest common denominator, the guy who will bring the gun out and start shooting?

You should be able to carry a gun in any of those places. At least that way there's someone to stop the guy who breaks the rules and "starts shooting."

 

[vi edit]

Oh please. Those things you listed are utterly inane and can't be compared to the annoyance of a mobile phone going off in a cinema.

Like I said. Bury your head.

I'll tell you the same thing I said to the other guy...you want something done then start voting with your wallet and bitching to the theatre managment.

Huffing and puffing here does fuckall.

 

[Zargon]

So the only thing you have been paged about in the movies, over 5 years, took you 5 minutes to resolve? Was it really critical then? Could it not have waited until you left the cinema?

You know, I just dont see it. If its critical and urgent enough that lives are at stake, then what are you doing in a cinema? If its not that critical or urgent, then why can it not wait 2 hours? Substitute lives are stake for money if you prefer, but my point still stands.

You dont NEED 24 hour connectivity, you and everyone else around you is just used to it.



You also want the right to own a gun, correct? But now should you be able to bring that gun into a high school, or a nightclub? Or a plane? No? Isnt that unfair? Isnt that catering to the lowest common denominator, the guy who will bring the gun out and start shooting?

Thats exactly what it is. My point is, you are allowed to desire and have all these things, but with rights come responsibilities. Since people prove time and again that they are incapable of giving a shit unless they are forced to give a shit, I think the best option is to simply remove signal from cinemas. You can still own a phone, you just might be without connectivity without 2 hours. I know, its heavy right? 2 hours without knowing what your buddy is up to or what colour his shit is. But you'll be able to do it, I swear.

once in the last about 8 months, that I can remember. I also clearly stated one year in my post, and you still managed to respond wrong ~5 movies in year(actually since september 2010) that I can recall.

I also spent most of thanksgiving dinner this year VPN'd into work while on the phone fixing a problem.

I guess I shouldnt be allowed thanksgiving dinner either right? or anything else? Its not good enough I sacrifice salary and

yes I want the right to carry a concealed firearm. and yes, it is catering to the lowest common denominator. and no, this thread is not the place for that.

you are seemingly in no place to lecture me about rights and responsibilties as whine and cry to forfeit the rights of millions to appease you.

I have been a gun owner for years, always legally, and never used a firearm in any illegal way. I could carry all the time and get away with it most likely, but I won't because I generally respect the law whether I think its bogus or not.

you come off as just as much as a spoiled baby as you trying to play vi edit and myself as.

 

[Kev]

I don't think you thought this idea through, vi!

Most theaters are mulitplexes and simply don't have the personnel to actively patrol each theater. You'd have to have someone on the scene in each separate theater. Movie houses couldn't afford this.

Also, it would be more disruptive to try and eject a patron, even if they eventually cooperated, spoiling the movie experience while an usher got their attention and then made them get up and leave.

Moreover, there's a very good chance that a significant percentage of these transgressors would make a fuss or outright refuse to leave! The minimum wage teenager trying to get them to comply would be up against it.

Finally how would it be determined beyond any shadow of a doubt that the call being received wasn't an emergency, especially if the person disputed this? How, exactly, would this be resolved?

Instead of calling the high tech approach passive aggressive as you do, I call it proactive and fool-proof and employee resource smart.

This.

Also, people seem to think this is an all or nothing scenario. You could simply have a couple theaters "cell phone enabled" for people who are on call or need to be reached in case of emergency. The rest of the the theaters would block all signals.

 

[dpodblood]

Everything Vi Edit said. I am also on call for keeping emergency healthcare systems up and running. That means I shouldn't be able to go see a move? Thats ridiculous. When I go to the theater I keep my phone on vibrate and in my pocket. If it goes off I get up and walk out of the theater. This is no different than someone getting up to go to the bathroom, get a drink, or whatever. If you can't deal with that then you should watch movies at home rather than go out in a public place.

As for all the ideas about cages, jammers, and seperate cinemas; they are all completely unnecessary, and cost prohibitive. People need to get some common sense, and common courtesy. The need for expensive tech solutions simply isn't there.

 

[Possessed Freak]

Everything Vi Edit said. I am also on call for keeping emergency healthcare systems up and running. That means I shouldn't be able to go see a move? Thats ridiculous.

I will say this... you took the job, you knew what you are required to do. There are plenty of situations where even standing up/leaving is very inappropriate. Personally, I would flat out refuse to be on call 24/7 (as in there is not even a sum of money on this earth that would get me to be somebody's bitch 24/7).

 

[dpodblood]

I will say this... you took the job, you knew what you are required to do. There are plenty of situations where even standing up/leaving is very inappropriate. Personally, I would flat out refuse to be on call 24/7 (as in there is not even a sum of money on this earth that would get me to be somebody's bitch 24/7).

Hope you never have to take a piss when you're at the theater then. Because it's just as disruptive. There are tons of people around the world who need to be on call for their jobs. That doesn't mean their lives need to be over.