BLM: Falcon Heights police fatally shot man

[bshole]

I think him yelling "Fuck!" several times near the end of the vid (when the phone is on the grass) was him knowing he just overreacted and is in deep shit.

It is also what a jury will think and exactly what I thought. It is not the reaction of a cop who made a clean and legit kill. It really is damning.

Also I haven't seen the gun anywhere in the video either. Where are these guys getting this info that the gun was in his lap?

 

[Victorian Gray]

We now know he did have a gun in his lap. Cops attorney is saying it on national tv and is corroborated by the video which shows the trigger guard. The rest of my post is speculation.

I sure as hell can't tell that's a gun in the still shots or video I've seen and wow, what a surprise that the officer's defense lawyer says such a thing. You will note that the police department has made no such claim

Yep, you are truly a piece of work.

 

[bshole]

It is also what a jury will think and exactly what I thought. It is not the reaction of a cop who made a clean and legit kill. It really is damning.

Also I haven't seen the gun anywhere in the video either. Where are these guys getting this info that the gun was in his lap?

Ok, here is where that is from:

Also, Castile’s gun was visible on his lap according to some radio traffic reports, Fox News reported.

Never mind that the actual VIDEO-TAPED evidence shows nothing of the sort. Sounds like self-serving twaddle to justify a bad shoot.

 

[bshole]

I sure as hell can't tell that's a gun in the still shots or video I've seen and wow, what a surprise that the officer's defense lawyer says such a thing. You will note that the police department has made no such claim

Yep, you are truly a piece of work.

C'mon now brah, if you BELIEVE really really hard you will see the gun right there in the video. If you don't you aren't believing hard enough.

 

[SOFTengCOMPelec]

It is also what a jury will think and exactly what I thought. It is not the reaction of a cop who made a clean and legit kill. It really is damning.

Also I haven't seen the gun anywhere in the video either. Where are these guys getting this info that the gun was in his lap?

I've stopped the video at the point in time AROUND when you can just about make out the gun. Feel free to move the time backwards and forwards to get a better view of it.

https://youtu.be/HNCbgJ55jQY?t=49

0:49 = 49 seconds in. Youtube seems to limits the time resolution. You need to watch about 0.5 seconds more, to see the gun best.

EDIT:
Actually this is apparently a better view, 1 second later.

https://youtu.be/HNCbgJ55jQY?t=50

 

[mxnerd]

I apologize. Seems Castile was a armed robbery suspect a few days ago and it's the reason he was pulled over.

https://theconservativetreehouse.co...lse-media-narrative-now-driving-cop-killings/

 

[Victorian Gray]

Funny how people are more than willing to question the honor of a police officer and impugn his integrity but never question people like this.

Dare being up Trayvon or brown past? You're a horrible racist!

Look in a mirror jackass.

Is this guy "Trayvon" or "Brown"? No? Then what the fuck do they have to do with this case?

This guy by all indications was a standup guy liked by employers, coworkers, teachers, friends, a solid employment record and had no criminal record other than a fuck of a lot of traffic stops that look suspiciously like the proverbial DWB. His weapon has been reported by the local media as legal.

What the fuck is it with assholes like you that have to go out of their way to justify incidents like this. A guy is dead. His kid has no father, his girlfriend lost her boyfriend, His family lost a son.

You are truly a pathetic excuse for a human being.

 

[LegendKiller]

Look in a mirror jackass.

Is this guy "Trayvon" or "Brown"? No? Then what the fuck do they have to do with this case?

This guy by all indications was a standup guy liked by employers, coworkers, teachers, friends, a solid employment record and had no criminal record other than a fuck of a lot of traffic stops that look suspiciously like the proverbial DWB. His weapon has been reported by the local media as legal.

What the fuck is it with assholes like you that have to go out of their way to justify incidents like this. A guy is dead. His kid has no father, his girlfriend lost her boyfriend, His family lost a son.

You are truly a pathetic excuse for a human being.

And everybody ran around saying Trayvon and Brown were great people too. Shit, they put up that old picture of Trayvon to show how young he was, but it was from years before. They ran the hell out of that one after getting a PR agent.

Brown? Ohh, the graduation picture and he was going to AC school. He was a "gentle giant", great kid, until you realized yet another broken home, yet another fighter. A guy who reached into the cop car to take a gun, assaulting the officer. But Dorian Johnson promised you fucking lefties that they were running away or had their hands up, or something.

You guys are the fucking pathetic humans. You're so goddamned blind to the liberal narrative that you don't even try to hold back in your pathetic pandering and you label *ANY* proof to the contrary, racism.

I don't give a flying fuck through a rolling donut if every one of his family members says this guy was a saint. I am sure the cop's family says the same stuff about him. Yet you're more than willing to effectively try the cop now, before you have even heard his side, merely because Castile's GF has better PR people and has been out in the media controlling the narrative since the first second after the shooting when she live-tweeted the hell out of this.

So really, get a fucking grip and wait for info.

 

[bshole]

I apologize. Seems Castile was a armed robbery suspect a few days ago and it's the reason he was pulled over.

https://theconservativetreehouse.co...lse-media-narrative-now-driving-cop-killings/

If you read earlier in the thread you will see that the victim looked like the robbery suspect but that the beard on the victim definitively proves that he was not the robber. It was a legit case of mistaken identity. I at first thought they were the same person. The issue is that the officer should have treated him as a suspect and NEVER asked for a drivers license. He should have SECURED him. There is a procedure for that. If the cops have video and the video shows the officer asking for a driver's license, it is an open and shut case of manslaughter. Based on what the girlfriend said right after the shooting, that is where my money is. For me, if the procedure as elucidated Ackmed was followed, the cop is off the hook.

 

[umbrella39]

Look in a mirror jackass.

Is this guy "Trayvon" or "Brown"? No? Then what the fuck do they have to do with this case?

This guy by all indications was a standup guy liked by employers, coworkers, teachers, friends, a solid employment record and had no criminal record other than a fuck of a lot of traffic stops that look suspiciously like the proverbial DWB. His weapon has been reported by the local media as legal.

What the fuck is it with assholes like you that have to go out of their way to justify incidents like this. A guy is dead. His kid has no father, his girlfriend lost her boyfriend, His family lost a son.

You are truly a pathetic excuse for a human being.

So again, but, but, but Trayvon and but, but, but Brown... But see, to the usual suspects here they all look the same. Pathetic. StormFront is calling and wants their rejects back...

 

[mxnerd]

If you read earlier in the thread you will see that the victim looked like the robbery suspect but that the beard on the victim definitively proves that he was not the robber. It was a legit case of mistaken identity. I at first thought they were the same person. The issue is that the officer should have treated him as a suspect and NEVER asked for a drivers license. He should have SECURED him. There is a procedure for that. If the cops have video and the video shows the officer asking for a driver's license, it is an open and shut case of manslaughter. Based on what the girlfriend said right after the shooting, that is where my money is. For me, if the procedure as elucidated Ackmed was followed, the cop is off the hook.

I agree. I just don't know why a cop well into his 4th year job, still can't act correctly after all the training?

 

[bshole]

And everybody ran around saying Trayvon and Brown were great people too. Shit, they put up that old picture of Trayvon to show how young he was, but it was from years before. They ran the hell out of that one after getting a PR agent.

Brown? Ohh, the graduation picture and he was going to AC school. He was a "gentle giant", great kid, until you realized yet another broken home, yet another fighter. A guy who reached into the cop car to take a gun, assaulting the officer. But Dorian Johnson promised you fucking lefties that they were running away or had their hands up, or something.

You guys are the fucking pathetic humans. You're so goddamned blind to the liberal narrative that you don't even try to hold back in your pathetic pandering and you label *ANY* proof to the contrary, racism.

I don't give a flying fuck through a rolling donut if every one of his family members says this guy was a saint. I am sure the cop's family says the same stuff about him. Yet you're more than willing to effectively try the cop now, before you have even heard his side, merely because Castile's GF has better PR people and has been out in the media controlling the narrative since the first second after the shooting when she live-tweeted the hell out of this.

So really, get a fucking grip and wait for info.

Yea... she should have let the cops control the narrative. They never cover up. From my perspective, if she wanted anything close to justice she did the right thing. This isn't even about race, the cops natural reaction is to protect their own. They will lie through their teeth to save a comrade. There are plenty of studies to prove that. Where she made her mistake was letting it get out before the officer made statements. Once the officer got his version on the record, THEN she should have released the video. Now the officer can modify his statement to not contradict the video-taped evidence.

Why do you still go on about other shootings? Should we add a bunch of illegitimate shootings and coverups as a counter? Why not discuss this shooting in the context of it being its own unique event? EVERYBODY ELSE IS!!!

 

[Victorian Gray]

And everybody ran around saying Trayvon and Brown were great people too. Shit, they put up that old picture of Trayvon to show how young he was, but it was from years before. They ran the hell out of that one after getting a PR agent.

Brown? Ohh, the graduation picture and he was going to AC school. He was a "gentle giant", great kid, until you realized yet another broken home, yet another fighter. A guy who reached into the cop car to take a gun, assaulting the officer. But Dorian Johnson promised you fucking lefties that they were running away or had their hands up, or something.

You guys are the fucking pathetic humans. You're so goddamned blind to the liberal narrative that you don't even try to hold back in your pathetic pandering and you label *ANY* proof to the contrary, racism.

I don't give a flying fuck through a rolling donut if every one of his family members says this guy was a saint. I am sure the cop's family says the same stuff about him. Yet you're more than willing to effectively try the cop now, before you have even heard his side, merely because Castile's GF has better PR people and has been out in the media controlling the narrative since the first second after the shooting when she live-tweeted the hell out of this.

So really, get a fucking grip and wait for info.

You obviously don't actually give a shit but this guy answers your straw far better than I can:

"We were brought here in chains, against our will. Beaten, raped, abused, and then tortured if we fought back. Our men valued for their strength and brawn until that physicality no longer lined your pockets, and then we became frightening and aggressive.

We were lynched, terrorized in our own country, and denied the rights that we were entitled to in our own Constitution. We served our nation to secure freedom for the world, only to return to a nation in which we ourselves were not free.

We are targeted, harassed, falsely accused and then told we bring this on ourselves because we do not “act like the rest of society.” But did any of the above happen to the rest of society?
I’m tired. Tired of smoothing your ruffled feathers in my presence because of your fear. Tired of being exceptional so that I can be treated like “the rest of society.”

I’m tired of having to argue my humanity to you.

But most of all, tired of looking into the faces of my little boys, and feeling like I have to extinguish their joy, their exuberance, because you think “black men are more dangerous than men of other races.”

My boys like Pokemon, probably like your boys. My boys play soccer, probably like your boys. My boys are bright, and curious and gifted, probably like your boys. But my boys will be hunted. Will yours?

— Midwest Dermatologist in Maryland, reacting to an article about a sniper in Dallas who shot 12 police officers, killing five, during a peaceful demonstration against police shootings."

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/09/n...-having-to-argue-my-humanity-to-you.html?_r=0

 

[LegendKiller]

So again, but, but, but Trayvon and but, but, but Brown... But see, to the usual suspects here they all look the same. Pathetic. StormFront is calling and wants their rejects back...

I am sure the NBP websites enjoy your company.

 

[LegendKiller]

You obviously don't actually give a shit but this guy answers your straw far better than I can:

"We were brought here in chains, against our will. Beaten, raped, abused, and then tortured if we fought back. Our men valued for their strength and brawn until that physicality no longer lined your pockets, and then we became frightening and aggressive.

We were lynched, terrorized in our own country, and denied the rights that we were entitled to in our own Constitution. We served our nation to secure freedom for the world, only to return to a nation in which we ourselves were not free.

We are targeted, harassed, falsely accused and then told we bring this on ourselves because we do not “act like the rest of society.” But did any of the above happen to the rest of society?
I’m tired. Tired of smoothing your ruffled feathers in my presence because of your fear. Tired of being exceptional so that I can be treated like “the rest of society.”

I’m tired of having to argue my humanity to you.

But most of all, tired of looking into the faces of my little boys, and feeling like I have to extinguish their joy, their exuberance, because you think “black men are more dangerous than men of other races.”

My boys like Pokemon, probably like your boys. My boys play soccer, probably like your boys. My boys are bright, and curious and gifted, probably like your boys. But my boys will be hunted. Will yours?

— Midwest Dermatologist in Maryland, reacting to an article about a sniper in Dallas who shot 12 police officers, killing five, during a peaceful demonstration against police shootings."

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/09/n...-having-to-argue-my-humanity-to-you.html?_r=0

I don't care what they say because they likely will not come out and say "Yeah, he had a gun and probably did something stupid". Nor will they tell us if he wasn't anything but the most spectacular person.

I am withholding judgement. He might have been a great guy, but so might the cop. Yet we only hear one side.

 

[LegendKiller]

Yea... she should have let the cops control the narrative. They never cover up. From my perspective, if she wanted anything close to justice she did the right thing. This isn't even about race, the cops natural reaction is to protect their own. They will lie through their teeth to save a comrade. There are plenty of studies to prove that. Where she made her mistake was letting it get out before the officer made statements. Once the officer got his version on the record, THEN she should have released the video. Now the officer can modify his statement to not contradict the video-taped evidence.

Why do you still go on about other shootings? Should we add a bunch of illegitimate shootings and coverups as a counter? Why not discuss this shooting in the context of it being its own unique event? EVERYBODY ELSE IS!!!

No, we should look at her narrative with the same skeptical outlook we look at anybody else's after realizing she, and the family, have their own agenda. The cops do too. However, all I see on this board are people willing to convict a cop based upon *ONE* side.

 

[Victorian Gray]

I am sure the NBP websites enjoy your company.

National Bank of Pakistan? National Bank of Petersburg? National Biogdigester Program? National Biosolids Partnership?

 

[LegendKiller]

National Bank of Pakistan? National Bank of Petersburg? National Biogdigester Program? National Biosolids Partnership?

lol.

 

[Victorian Gray]

I don't care what they say because they likely will not come out and say "Yeah, he had a gun and probably did something stupid". Nor will they tell us if he wasn't anything but the most spectacular person.

I am withholding judgement. He might have been a great guy, but so might the cop. Yet we only hear one side.

You keep punching that straw bunky. You don't fool anyone.

 

[MongGrel]

You guys are the fucking pathetic humans. You're so goddamned blind to the liberal narrative that you don't even try to hold back in your pathetic pandering and you label *ANY* proof to the contrary, racism.

Rant, rant, rant.

Get over yourself someday.

Much rage there.

I still have no idea what a NBP is myself.

 

[Victorian Gray]

lol.

National Bank of Poland? Seriously, wtf is NBP?

 

[BUTCH1]

Funny how people are more than willing to question the honor of a police officer and impugn his integrity but never question people like this.

Dare being up Trayvon or brown past? You're a horrible racist!

As far as that goes BOTH Martin and GZ had a few skeleton's in their closet and GZ profiting to the tune of $190,000 over a dead teen is not helping his already tarnished image. As far as Brown, the "gentle giant" was a load of complete bullshit, entering a store and walking out with $50 worth of merchandise while telling the tiny, old, owner "call the cops and I'll be back to get you" speaks for itself, dirt-bag 100%. Now we have a pic of what might be a gun in Castile's lap but it's hard to make out with just a small square showing, it could have been a phone, difficult to say with the poor resolution.

 

[Victorian Gray]

We now know he did have a gun in his lap. Cops attorney is saying it on national tv and is corroborated by the video which shows the trigger guard. The rest of my post is speculation.

That's actually not true (what a surprise).

"Jeronimo Yanez, the police officer who killed a black driver during a suburban Minnesota traffic stop this week, reacted to the man's gun — not his race — his attorney said Saturday.

St. Anthony Police Officer Yanez was reacting to "the presence of that gun and the display of that gun" when he opened fire on and killed Philando Castile, Minneapolis attorney Thomas Kelly told the Associated Press in an interview Saturday.


Kelly declined to further elaborate to the AP how Castile, 32, displayed the weapon or the events that led up to the deadly Wednesday traffic stop."


http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...-minnesota-cop-reacted-gun-not-race/86894752/

 

[LegendKiller]

That's actually not true (what a surprise).

"Jeronimo Yanez, the police officer who killed a black driver during a suburban Minnesota traffic stop this week, reacted to the man's gun — not his race — his attorney said Saturday.

St. Anthony Police Officer Yanez was reacting to "the presence of that gun and the display of that gun" when he opened fire on and killed Philando Castile, Minneapolis attorney Thomas Kelly told the Associated Press in an interview Saturday.


Kelly declined to further elaborate to the AP how Castile, 32, displayed the weapon or the events that led up to the deadly Wednesday traffic stop."


http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...-minnesota-cop-reacted-gun-not-race/86894752/

Ohh, so responding to the display of the gun, makes it not true? Ohh gawd, splitting hairs.

It should be noted that Kelly does say that Castile had a permit, so at least that part has been clarified.

 

[Victorian Gray]

Ohh, so responding to the display of the gun, makes it not true? Ohh gawd, splitting hairs.

It should be noted that Kelly does say that Castile had a permit, so at least that part has been clarified.

Splitting hairs, ROFL.

You claimed it was on his lap. You claimed that the lawyer stated that. Split that.