Perhaps she should.
But, when talking to the President and saying "give us everything you've got", you'd think he'd have a bit of a clue as to how to help.
A disaster the size of Katrina hits the mainland USA and the Bush adminsitration doesn't realize they need help down there? And to top it off the feds are required to act even if there is no call for help.
Maybe Bush should resign if he's that incompetent.
How ironic that you have a governor admitting she screwed up on camera, then stammering all over the place saying "I don't even know what day it is"; yet the libs here still find a way to make it all Bush's fault.
Maybe I missed it, but where did someone post that? Conjur is kind of arguing, but he always does that, so who else gives an inkling of that?
ROFLMAO. You've been trying to cover the Governor's ass for a week or so now and this is, frankly, your most pathetic attempt yet!
The Governor's JOB is to be informed and know what do in these situations. Ignorance is no excuse. She is incompetent, and that is being nice.
You probably don't remeber this.
New York -- December 8, 1988
00:10:07 Wide of Gorbachev standing in front of Aeroflot plane
00:10:14 SOUNDBITE: (Russian, then English translator) Mikhail Gorbachev, USSR General Secretary of the Communist Party:
"I would like to say that I have to cut short this visit to return to the Soviet Union, because late last night, it was reported to me that the earthquake that struck the trans-Caucasian Republics of the Soviet Union and particularly Armenia was extremely severe and had extremely grave consequences, devastation and great loss of life. Goodbye and thank you."
Even the Russians can do some things right.
umbrella39
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Sounds like she admitted nothing. Sound like she stated that in her first call to the president, she should have asked for troops. Her not realizing that without specifically asking for troops when asking for help is on her I suppose. But like her press secretary said, and I will paraphrase, if you call 9/11 because you can't breath, do you have to then ask for someone to administer CPR when they get there? I don't know the protocol for emergencies such as this and perhaps someone can enlighten me, but does a governor have to give a shopping list to the president of what they need when asking for emergency assistance? Wouldn't the National Guard fall under a clear and obvious need in such an emergency? Didn't Pataki offer to mobilize the national gaurd in a conversation with Giuliani right after he reached ground zero on 9/11? Why did she not mobilize them herself?
From what I've read, there were only 4,000 active duty available. The rest were called up and took some time to mobilize, apparently. The rest being in Iraq along with dozens of high-water vehicles, generators, and other heavy equipment.
It is everyone's fault I think.
If you look at my original post asking everyone to stop the partisan bickering about Katrina you will see that I was hoping people would actually shut up about it all.
But the libs around here smell blood in the water so they aren't going to let this go. Now that more and more reports are coming out showing more and more state and local ineptitude I think its comical that they wouldn't let it drop.
I'm with you, but don't pretend it's just the libs doing it...or am I missing the inten of the 87 new threads every day blaming the local officials with nary a mention of federal issues?
Tell me TLC, does filing paperwork in the proper manner now trump just doing what needs to be done in the event of a disaster? If so, then you are right, Bush and his people aren't responsible. How were they to know that there could actually have been something catastrophic happen.....the paperwork didn't say so.
The only question is who's knee jerked first I suppse?
But that begs the question of why Republicans would knee jerk during this? Repubilcans have the house, the senate, and the presidency under wraps. What do they really have to gain by blaming a bunch of Democrats that no one knew existed in Louisiana until the hurricane hit? Compare that to what Democrats have to gain by blaming Bush saying he is racist, saying he dropped the ball, etc etc. You make the call.
Here's a link to my post asking people to shut up and me stating everyone made mistakes:
http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview...atid=52&threadid=1680398&enterthread=y
It took all of 2 posts before Conjur's knee jerked trying to play politics with the disaster despite the fact that:
"No one was ready for this. That goes from Bush all the way down to the local officials in New Orleans." was right in the middle of my original post to start the thread.
Everyone flamed Conjur for it of course, and I stayed out of the blame game until lately.
But now its totally hilarious to watch one guy blame X person for Y while saying person Z shouldn't worry about situation Y because yadda yadda yadda.
Its so pathetic.
Like I said, I agree...especially with that last part. As for why the Republicans feel the need to kick the Dems when they are down...well, I'll leave that to another thread
I know its pathetic how Republicans kick Democrats when they are down.
Especially when such non-partisan Americans like you see around here on P&N are so understanding about everything.
I have done nothing but defend Mayor Nagin since this disaster. I have showed how he made mistakes but I have always said he was a good Mayor and has always done his best for the city.
That said, Blanco and Nagin have both lashed out at Bush constantly since this disaster.
If you don't want to be kicked when you are down then don't blame everyone else for problems you were largely responsible for creating yourself.
That should be the lesson learned IMO.
All I pointed out was the idiotic and ridiculous RW talking-point finger-pointing about the buses.
And, the ones flaming me? The Freepers. wow.
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Unfortunately, filing the paperwork properly is mandatory, particularly in today's partisan environment. A paper trail is a necessary evil.
And let's be honest. No matter the response someone would have been blamed somewhere, somehow. It's already been shown that FEMA's response to this dsaster was historically one of their best showings, yet people are completely disregarding that and beefing anyway. The head of FEMA already lost his job. Why? Because of the partisan snipers popping off shot after shot, regardless of the actual facts. Eventually we'll need to figure out what actually happened. For that we'll need that damn paper trail.
Wrong answer and the National Response Plan proves it. I've shown you many times but you keep pointing out other parts that aren't relevant in the case of a major catastrophe.
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The "They didn't write a memo." excuse is a pretty lame excuse, at the very least, someone at FEMA/Homeland should have mentioned that they wanted something in writing in a timely manner.
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Are you talking about this statement?
Have you ever written any government documentation, conjur? If so, you'd know the difference between the usage of "may" and "will." (Read through the rest of page 43 and you'll see the context of those two words.) Will means a declaration is mandatory. May is used to indicate an elective. It would also have to be ordered by an authorized person. Since Blanco is in charge, it would have to be her who issued that authorization. I'm not aware that she did that. You?
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