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Doppel

Lifer
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It certainly seems like he murdered her, his career is over, and now gets to spend a great portion of his life in an SA prison. DO NOT WANT.
 

klinc

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Here is his affidavit

I, the undersigned, Oscar Leonard Carl Pistorius, do hereby make oath and state:

I am an adult male and a South African citizen with identity number [identity number redacted].
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Reeva Steenkamp laid to rest

I am the Applicant in this application in which I seek relief from this Honourable Court to be released on bail. I respectfully submit, as I will demonstrate herein, that the interests of justice permit my release on bail. In any event, the dictates of fairness and justice in view of the peculiar facts herein warrant that I should not be deprived of my liberty and that I should be released on bail.

I make this affidavit of my own free will and have not in any way been unduly influenced to depose thereto.

The facts herein contained, save where expressly indicated to the contrary, are within my personal knowledge and belief, and are both true and correct.

The purpose of this affidavit is to provide the above Honourable Court with my personal circumstances and to address the allegations levelled against me (in so far as they are known to me), as well as to address the factors to be considered by the above Honourable Court as contained in Sections 60(4) to 60(9) of the Act.

I have been advised and I understand that I bear the burden to show that the interests of justice permit my release and that I am obliged to initiate this application. I fail to understand how I could be charged with murder, let alone premeditated murder, as I had no intention to kill my girlfriend, Reeva Steenkamp ("Reeva"). However, I will put factors before the Honourable Court to show that it is in the interests of justice to permit my release on bail.

I state that the State will not be able to present any objective facts that I committed a planned or premeditated murder. For this reason I will hereunder deal with the events which occurred that evening. The objective facts will not refute my version as it is the truth.

I am a professional athlete and reside at [address redacted].

I was born on 22 November 1986, at Johannesburg. I have resided in the Republic of South Africa ("the RSA") all my life, and although I frequently travel abroad to participate in international sporting events, I regard South Africa as my permanent place of abode. I have no intention to relocate to any other country as I love my country.

I own immovable assets in South Africa, which consist of the following:

The immovable property in which I currently reside, at [address redacted] ("the residential premises"). This property is valued at approximately R5 million and is encumbered by a mortgage bond in the amount of approximately R2 million.

Two further immovable properties located within Weeping Willow Estates, Pretoria East, which properties have a combined value of approximately R1,6 million. Both properties are bonded to an aggregate value of approximately R1 million.

A vacant stand in Langebaan, Western Cape, which has a value of approximately R1,7 million. This property is not bonded.

I own movable assets comprised of household furniture and effects, motor vehicles and jewellery, which are valued in excess of R500 000,00.

My friends and family reside in the RSA, although I also have friends abroad.

My professional occupation currently provides me with an income of approximately R5,6 million per annum.

I have cash investments in excess of R1 million at various banks within the RSA.

I have never been convicted of any criminal offences either in the RSA or elsewhere. There are no outstanding cases, other than the present, being investigated against me by the South African Police Services ("SAPS").

My legal representatives have explained the provisions of Section 60(11) of the Act to me. I respectfully make the following submissions in this regard:

I have been informed that I am accused of having committed the offence of murder. I deny the aforesaid allegation in the strongest terms.

I am advised that I do not have to deal with the merits of the case for purposes of the bail application. However, I believe that it is appropriate to deal with the merits in this application, particularly in view of the State's contention that I planned to murder Reeva. Nothing can be further from the truth and I have no doubt that it is not possible for the State to present objective facts to substantiate such an allegation, as there is no substance in the allegation. I do not know on what different facts the allegation of a premeditated murder could be premised and I respectfully request the State to furnish me with such alleged facts in order to allow me to refute such allegations.

On the 13th of February 2013 Reeva would have gone out with her friends and I with my friends. Reeva then called me and asked that we rather spend the evening at home. I agreed and we were content to have a quiet dinner together at home. By about 22h00 on 13 February 2013 we were in our bedroom. She was doing her yoga exercises and I was in bed watching television. My prosthetic legs were off. We were deeply in love and I could not be happier. I know she felt the same way. She had given me a present for Valentine's Day but asked me only to open it the next day.

After Reeva finished her yoga exercises she got into bed and we both fell asleep.

I am acutely aware of violent crime being committed by intruders entering homes with a view to commit crime, including violent crime. I have received death threats before. I have also been a victim of violence and of burglaries before. For that reason I kept my firearm, a 9 mm Parabellum, underneath my bed when I went to bed at night.

During the early morning hours of 14 February 2013, I woke up, went onto the balcony to bring the fan in and closed the sliding doors, the blinds and the curtains. I heard a noise in the bathroom and realised that someone was in the bathroom.

I felt a sense of terror rushing over me. There are no burglar bars across the bathroom window and I knew that contractors who worked at my house had left the ladders outside. Although I did not have my prosthetic legs on I have mobility on my stumps.

I believed that someone had entered my house. I was too scared to switch a light on.

I grabbed my 9mm pistol from underneath my bed. On my way to the bathroom I screamed words to the effect for him/them to get out of my house and for Reeva to phone the police. It was pitch dark in the bedroom and I thought Reeva was in bed.

I noticed that the bathroom window was open. I realised that the intruder/s was/were in the toilet because the toilet door was closed and I did not see anyone in the bathroom. I heard movement inside the toilet. The toilet is inside the bathroom and has a separate door.

It filled me with horror and fear of an intruder or intruders being inside the toilet. I thought he or they must have entered through the unprotected window. As I did not have my prosthetic legs on and felt extremely vulnerable, I knew I had to protect Reeva and myself. I believed that when the intruder/s came out of the toilet we would be in grave danger. I felt trapped as my bedroom door was locked and I have limited mobility on my stumps.

I fired shots at the toilet door and shouted to Reeva to phone the police. She did not respond and I moved backwards out of the bathroom, keeping my eyes on the bathroom entrance. Everything was pitch dark in the bedroom and I was still too scared to switch on a light. Reeva was not responding.

When I reached the bed, I realised that Reeva was not in bed. That is when it dawned on me that it could have been Reeva who was in the toilet. I returned to the bathroom calling her name. I tried to open the toilet door but it was locked. I rushed back into the bedroom and opened the sliding door exiting onto the balcony and screamed for help.

I put on my prosthetic legs, ran back to the bathroom and tried to kick the toilet door open. I think I must then have turned on the lights. I went back into the bedroom and grabbed my cricket bat to bash open the toilet door. A panel or panels broke off and I found the key on the floor and unlocked and opened the door. Reeva was slumped over but alive.

I battled to get her out of the toilet and pulled her into the bathroom. I phoned Johan Stander ("Stander") who was involved in the administration of the estate and asked him to phone the ambulance. I phoned Netcare and asked for help. I went downstairs to open the front door.

I returned to the bathroom and picked Reeva up as I had been told not to wait for the paramedics, but to take her to hospital. I carried her downstairs in order to take her to the hospital. On my way down Stander arrived. A doctor who lives in the complex also arrived. Downstairs, I tried to render the assistance to Reeva that I could, but she died in my arms.

I am absolutely mortified by the events and the devastating loss of my beloved Reeva. With the benefit of hindsight I believe that Reeva went to the toilet when I went out on the balcony to bring the fan in. I cannot bear to think of the suffering I have caused her and her family, knowing how much she was loved. I also know that the events of that tragic night were as I have described them and that in due course I have no doubt the police and expert investigators will bear this out.

I will stand my trial should it proceed against me. I am a well-known international athlete and there is no possibility that I will even think of not standing my trial should there be one. I trust the South African legal system and that the facts will show that I did not murder Reeva.

In order to persuade the above Honourable Court that I should be released on bail, I provide the following additional facts and information in terms of Section 60 of the Act.

I do not know the identity of any witness upon whom the State will rely in order to attempt to prove a case against me. In any event, I have no intention to interfere with any witnesses as I have no cause to do so and I undertake not to do so.

I maintain good relationships with people and I bear no grudges against anyone.

As previously stated, I have no previous convictions and I have not been released on bail pending any charges.

I am not disposed to violence.

I respectfully submit that the facts set out above support my contention that I do not constitute a flight risk.

I have two South African passports, the one is full. I need my passport to compete overseas but I am willing to surrender the passports to the investigating officer should it be a condition of bail. I am not in possession of any other travel documents and undertake not to apply for such documentation pending the finalisation of these proceedings.

After the shooting I did not attempt to flee. Rather, I accepted Stander would contact the police, and I remained at the scene.

I will be able to raise an appropriate amount to post as bail.

I have no knowledge of any evidentiary material which may exist with regard to the allegations levelled against me. In any event, I believe that whatever such evidence may be, it is in the possession of the police; it is safely secured and I do not have access thereto. I undertake not to interfere with any further investigations.

I am not sure which witnesses the State will rely upon in order to attempt to prove its case against me. Nonetheless, I undertake not to communicate with any witness, whoever he or she may be, and any other persons whose names may appear on a list of "State witnesses", to be provided by the State.

My continued incarceration can only prejudice me and creates no benefit to the State.

I respectfully submit that should I be released on bail, my release shall not disturb the public order or undermine the proper functioning of the criminal justice system.

I will comply with such conditions as the above Honourable Court may wish to impose.

I accordingly submit that the interests of justice, considerations of prejudice and the balancing of respective interests favour my release on bail.
http://edition.cnn.com/2013/02/19/world/africa/south-africa-pistorius-affadavit/index.html
 

werepossum

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Jul 10, 2006
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His story makes zero sense; had there been an intruder, it could have been a child - or an adult holding his "beloved Reeva" in front of him.
 

HumblePie

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I have no direct opinion on this case either way yet. Not enough evidence revealed to the public.

However, I will state the guy was an idiot in the first place blind firing. At the very least it's negligent homicide. Even if his side of the story is true, he's still guilty of a crime with manslaughter being the worst case scenario for him.

You simply DO NOT shoot at something through a wall or door that you can not see. Period. Doing so is reckless, dangerous, and stupid.
 

woolfe9998

Lifer
Apr 8, 2013
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Pistorius gave tearful testimony on this today.

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/pi...-stand-asknbcnews-your-trial-questions-n74756

His version has got to the biggest cock-and-bull story I've heard in my life. He goes to bed with his girlfriend, wakes up to hear a sound from the toilet room, assumes it's an intruder, then fires 4 shots through the door. It didn't occur to him until after he shot her that it might be her in the toilet? Any person not brain dead would have assumed it was her in there, because that is the obvious conclusion. Furthermore, he claims he shouted for her to call the police before firing but according to him, she didn't answer even though she clearly would have heard him through the door. Even without considering the various evidence presented by the prosecution which contradicts his story and just looking at the story on its own terms, it cannot be right.

This was an intentional kill. Open and shut.
 

Theb

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Feb 28, 2006
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Yeah his story is ridiculous. The case will come down to whether or not the court understands the difficulties of Affluenza.
 

Fern

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I think he's guilty.

The only thing I've heard his team raise in his defense is that didn't have his prosthetics on. Thus he was feeling vulnerable etc. and shot while fearful.

Well, I think the opposite. To me, that makes him sound guilty as all h3ll.

He claims he got out of bed because he heard the intruder. Thus, the first thing he could be expected to do based on his claim was put his prosthetics on. Why go confront an intruder if you feel vulnerable without them?

No, he would have put them if he thought there was an intruder and only then gone out of his bedroom.

He went out without them because he wasn't fearing an intruder and didn't feel vulnerable because he knew it was her.

They had an argument; he got pissed off and shot her.

I'd say 2nd degree murder.

Fern
 

Jaskalas

Lifer
Jun 23, 2004
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Does South Africa do hangings? They need to set this up so we can donate to the cause.
 

Shaydza

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Does South Africa do hangings? They need to set this up so we can donate to the cause.

Not since apartheid ended bud. Our constitution enshrines the right to life. Although if he goes to jail he may wish we still hanged people.
 

desy

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Shaydza
Whats the feeling in SA? guilty innocent? Love him hate him?
 

OBLAMA2009

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I think he's guilty.

The only thing I've heard his team raise in his defense is that didn't have his prosthetics on. Thus he was feeling vulnerable etc. and shot while fearful.

Well, I think the opposite. To me, that makes him sound guilty as all h3ll.

He claims he got out of bed because he heard the intruder. Thus, the first thing he could be expected to do based on his claim was put his prosthetics on. Why go confront an intruder if you feel vulnerable without them?

No, he would have put them if he thought there was an intruder and only then gone out of his bedroom.

He went out without them because he wasn't fearing an intruder and didn't feel vulnerable because he knew it was her.

They had an argument; he got pissed off and shot her.

I'd say 2nd degree murder.

Fern

shooting her seems weird though. if youre a guy and a chick pisses you off youre gonna wanna smack her around or bitch slap her, not shoot her from a distance. thats the only reason i sorta believe him
 

Fern

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shooting her seems weird though. if youre a guy and a chick pisses you off youre gonna wanna smack her around or bitch slap her, not shoot her from a distance. thats the only reason i sorta believe him

Maybe he was trying to smack her around and she got away. He's frustrated and angry.

She ran into the bathroom. He couldn't chase her or stop her. He's angry; he shoots.

Prosecution witness said she heard fighting, screaming and yelling before gunshots.

But my point is that if he feels vulnerable without his blades on, he ain't crawling towards the invader he fears. He's gonna put his blades on first.

Fern
 

OBLAMA2009

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if anyone out there is thinking about shooting a chick, shoot an ugly one, leave the hot ones like reeva alone
 

cyclohexane

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Dude is completely full of shit.
She was completely dressed at 4 in the morning, and locked herself inside a bathroom - obviously they had an argument and he shot her.
 

WHAMPOM

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He's sorry! Sorry he got caught!
"I heard a noise behind my locked bathroom door. Figuring it was a home invasion for the purpose of stealing my shit, I put four shots through the locked door."

\Fully clothed, her intent on leaving following an argument, holding the door shut makes a perfect target for an enraged boy friend with a gun.
 
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Maybe he was trying to smack her around and she got away. He's frustrated and angry.

She ran into the bathroom. He couldn't chase her or stop her. He's angry; he shoots.

Prosecution witness said she heard fighting, screaming and yelling before gunshots.

But my point is that if he feels vulnerable without his blades on, he ain't crawling towards the invader he fears. He's gonna put his blades on first.

Fern

Or simply the more obvious that someone shares the same bedroom as you. they are not in bed and you hear a commotion in the bathroom. Why did you think it was someone else?