That's profoundly mistaken. Your wife could get a copy of your son's birth certificate (supposedly)under the FOIA? So What? It's still a copy, just like Obama's, and her ability to obtain that copy is entirely because it pertains to her as well as your son, at least in some states...
Nobody gets their original birth certificate, anywhere in the country- we all get state-certified copies, simply so that the original is preserved. It's a complete no-brainer. If a certified copy is good enough for you, or me, or your son, or John McCain, why isn't it good enough for Obama?
Because it doesn't suit your agenda?
How about you provide a link to show the FoI Act provides that anyone can receive a copy of anyone's birth certificate.
That's indescribably lame. The border is part of the paper it's printed on, not of the information contained. If you requested a copy in 2007, then, of course, it'll have the 2007 border.
Duh!
http://fightthesmears.com/articles/5/birthcertificate
THE ORIGINAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE, certified, guaranteed, quantified, and optimized placed on their head and pounded in with a ten pound sledge hammer? Am I being too much an optimist??
Small quible. The border is generated by the laser printer that was used to produce the COLB. I do have a little experience creating forms for laser printer, Xerox printers. You can tell by the small discrepencies in where the corners of the borders meet.
But, that is meangless to whether the data is accurate, which accoding to the State of Hawaii it is.
thats what these paranoid people can't admit, they have an agenda behind their reasoning..
they are so sure that there is something wrong with Obama that basic facts can't affect their thinking..
to be fair i think that this happens to everyone, but honestly i feel like this is one of the more ridiculous paranoias ive seen
i also think there is something subtley racist about it..if obama was white i honestly dont think they would be so convinced that he was born in kenya..
even though people can screw anywhere that life is supportable
it also shows through how the OP actually had to say that alan keyes was black ..as if we didnt fucking know that
BeauJangles
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I don't have my original birth certificate, but Obama has the state vouching for his birth and a record of his birth in a local newspaper. I'm not sure how much more conclusive you can reasonably get.
BeauJangles
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Please explain how his name was published in a local newspaper during the week of his birth, considering the list was received directly from the State of Hawaii for all registered births.
Or maybe it's because no president or presidential candidate has ever had to release such records. Prove me wrong. Please provide a link to all of Bush's school records, all of his medical records, and all of his passport records.
By releasing what has been released already, he's already gone beyond what anyone has done before. Insane requests by the tinfoil brigade deserve the appropriate response of laughter, but usually just get ignored.
OutHouse
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BeauJangles
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So Obama doesn't want every piece of his life made public, I don't see a problem with that. People have a sick obsession with gathering information, no matter how irrelevant.
If you can explain to me how Obama's name could have possibly gotten into a Hawaii newspaper in 1961, then maybe it would be time to dig deeper, but considering nobody can explain that one, I think we should all have decency and respect his privacy.
Atomic Playboy
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OK. From your links:
"The grade transcript, which Kerry has always declined to release, was included in his Navy record. During the campaign the Globe sought Kerry's naval records, but he refused to waive privacy restrictions for the full file. Late last month, Kerry gave the Navy permission to send the documents to the Globe."
"McCain won?t release his Naval Academy GPA or his transcripts, but he did admit to graduating fifth from the bottom of his class!"
"The basis for the media's unfair attacks on Bush's intelligence is his 30-year-old Yale College transcript (purloined last fall and published by The New Yorker)."
Based on the links you posted, McCain and Bush both refused to release their transcripts (Bush's were stolen and released to the press), Kerry eventually had his grades released as part of his Naval record, and the article about Gore's grades makes no reference to Gore willingly releasing his transcripts. So it appears that your links contradict your claim that Presidential candidates are always forthcoming with their transcripts. Why hold Obama to a different standard?
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This ad was published in the Chicago Tribune the other day.
An Open Letter to Barack Obama:
Are you a Natural Born Citizen of the U.S.?
Are you legally eligible to hold the Office of President?
http://www.wethepeoplefoundati...-ObamaLtr-Nov-2008.pdf
The citizenship issue is not going to go away and be swept under the carpet.
An Open Letter to Barack Obama:
Are you a Natural Born Citizen of the U.S.?
Are you legally eligible to hold the Office of President?
http://www.wethepeoplefoundati...-ObamaLtr-Nov-2008.pdf
The citizenship issue is not going to go away and be swept under the carpet.
Arkaign
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It's a non-issue. Notwithstanding the utterly ridiculous conspiracy theory about it (Obama time-travelled back to 1961 so that he could put a birth notice in a Hawaii newspaper? EPIC LULZ!!), Americans by and large don't give a shit about this. Obama is President come January, and people are worried about JOBS, THE ECONOMY, IRAQ, AFGHANISTAN, ETC.
So yes, it will go away, and it won't even need to be swept under the carpet because it's patently obvious to anyone with a functional cerebrum that Obama was born in Hawaii.
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Those questions have been answered, a fact that is not changed by your stubborn refusal to listen.
BeauJangles
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I can. The "Obama citizenship conspiracy" people are basically the same as the "9/11 conspiracy people". I'm not exactly sure what the cause is, but their brains become totally non-functional when this topic is brought up. No argument, no piece of paper, no statement from anyone is EVER going to convince them that Obama is eligible to be the President.
Look at their statements in this thread. These aren't arguments of skeptical people who are genuinely searching for truth. They've clearly made up their mind about the answer, the object now is try to justify their belief. How do you argue with that?
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