Black Presidential candidate, Alan Keyes, demands Obama's full birth certificificate.

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Duwelon

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Originally posted by: Infohawk
Originally posted by: Duwelon
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What's the issue anyway since his mom was American?

Wikipedia:
The 1790 Congress, many of whose members had been members of the Constitutional Convention, provided in the Naturalization Act of 1790 that "And the children of citizens of the United States that may be born beyond the sea, or out of the limits of the United States, shall be considered as natural born citizens."

If that's true, then it works for me.
 

L00PY

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Originally posted by: Duwelon
Originally posted by: JS80
Originally posted by: L00PY
Originally posted by: K3N
Obama Birth Certificate Fraud Proof
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIsQJNTvlUE


Please try to disprove the second youtube link. Again please im asking, why can't obama realease his full birth certificate and even his college application?
I'll admit I jumped a bit around with that second link but it's pretty silly and way to slow. He seems to be repeating those tinfoil hat claims that the documentation Obama provided was a fake because there weren't folds, you couldn't see the raised seal, and so on.

All of that has been disproved. There are crease marks visible in other shots. There is a raised seal. There is a signature stamp. It is a legal document per Hawaii laws.

That's a laser printout that was recently printed. There is still a huge loophole for conspiracy theorists. I am over it all, but I would still like to see the following items to shut everyone up:

1) original birth certificate
2) SAT score
3) LSAT score
4) College transcripts

That should shut everyone up so we can move on to focus on how Obama plans to "change" this country.

That would dispell all conspiracy theories. Judging by the flippant and stupid replies attacking the OP, It's also exactly what the most of the leftist 24/7 posters on this forum are afraid of.

How many people have actually verified Obama's birth certificate / college transcripts? 5? All liberals? All leftists? There's many unanswered questions and until then there will be theories and leftist loons fuming with rage, like this thread, that Obama's messiah status is even brought into question.
The problem is that wouldn't dispel all the conspiracy theories. You can never appease them, even when you meet their demands with facts.

Conspiracy theorists claimed he wasn't a citizen.
Obama had the copy of birth certificate the campaign obtained released.
Conspiracy theorists said it was PhotoShop and "proved it" with analysis of text halos, lack of creases, lack of a raised seal, etc. . .
Obama had third parties examine it and more images popped up showing clear text, creases, a raised seal, etc. . .
Conspiracy theorists said it was a forgery and had "proof" from their forensic analysts.
Obama had the staffers in the Hawaii Department of Health verify that the document number was that of a legitimate birth certificate.
Conspiracy theorists said wouldn't believe it unless someone from the state made a public and official statement.
Obama had the Health Department Director and the registrar of vital statistics issue a press release stating they personally verified that the health department holds Obama's original birth certificate.

What's next? After releasing the original birth certificate, conspiracy theorists will want affidavits from the doctors and nurses. After releasing LSAT scores, conspiracy theorists will want every paper written while in law school. After releasing college transcripts, conspiracy theorists will want every exam taken in college. After releasing SAT scores, conspiracy theorists will want high school transcripts.

Conspiracy theorists claim cover up by the Governor, ignoring that she's Republican and has been anti-Obama. Conspiracy theorists claim special restrictions by the Hawaii government just for Obama's records, ignoring that the laws preventing the general release of everyone's records have been on the books for decades. Conspiracy theorists claim he wasn't born in Hawaii, ignoring the birth certificate and birth announcement in the paper. Conspiracy theorists claim he has a Kenyan birth certificate, ignoring the fact that they weren't required for foreigners back then, and foreigners had to find the right government office, wade through layers of bureaucracy, and pay a fee to get a Kenyan birth certificate issued.

The tinfoil hat brigade believes in a plot by both Republicans and Democrats, by a state governor and state officials, by the US government and the Kenyan government, by today's media and newspapers back in the 60s, and apparently in a white teenager's ability to mastermind a scheme to lay down a paper trail to make her Kenyan born son appear to be a natural born citizen because in the 1961 she thought her half black kid would someday become president, but also in a teenage mastermind that's somehow stupid enough to jump through hoops to pay for a Kenyan birth certificate before rushing back to the US.

Everyone else believes Obama was born in Hawaii.
 

CitizenKain

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Originally posted by: Duwelon
Originally posted by: JS80
Originally posted by: L00PY
Originally posted by: K3N
Obama Birth Certificate Fraud Proof
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIsQJNTvlUE


Please try to disprove the second youtube link. Again please im asking, why can't obama realease his full birth certificate and even his college application?
I'll admit I jumped a bit around with that second link but it's pretty silly and way to slow. He seems to be repeating those tinfoil hat claims that the documentation Obama provided was a fake because there weren't folds, you couldn't see the raised seal, and so on.

All of that has been disproved. There are crease marks visible in other shots. There is a raised seal. There is a signature stamp. It is a legal document per Hawaii laws.

That's a laser printout that was recently printed. There is still a huge loophole for conspiracy theorists. I am over it all, but I would still like to see the following items to shut everyone up:

1) original birth certificate
2) SAT score
3) LSAT score
4) College transcripts

That should shut everyone up so we can move on to focus on how Obama plans to "change" this country.

That would dispell all conspiracy theories. Judging by the flippant and stupid replies attacking the OP, It's also exactly what the most of the leftist 24/7 posters on this forum are afraid of.

How many people have actually verified Obama's birth certificate / college transcripts? 5? All liberals? All leftists? There's many unanswered questions and until then there will be theories and leftist loons fuming with rage, like this thread, that Obama's messiah status is even brought into question.

No, wingnuts like you would simply find something more to latch onto as a conspiracy theory. Someone making a big deal about this has no position in calling someone else a loon.
 

jackschmittusa

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I'm really beginning to think some of the right wing fanatics are truly deranged. It's almost like they are some weird kind of alchemists, not trying to turn lead into gold, but trying to turn thin air into shit.
 

Mani

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Originally posted by: Duwelon

That would dispell all conspiracy theories. Judging by the flippant and stupid replies attacking the OP, It's also exactly what the most of the leftist 24/7 posters on this forum are afraid of.

How many people have actually verified Obama's birth certificate / college transcripts? 5? All liberals? All leftists? There's many unanswered questions and until then there will be theories and leftist loons fuming with rage, like this thread, that Obama's messiah status is even brought into question.

What's really ironic is someone defending this tinfoil hat ridiculousness and then calling other people loons. This reminds me of Butterbean talking about what normal people think of Obama. Good stuff. :laugh:
 

Mani

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What's also great is that the OP makes sure to mention that the accuser is a "Black presidential candidate", as though that somehow adds credibility to the claim.
 

RKDaley

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Originally posted by: Mani
What's also great is that the OP makes sure to mention that the accuser is a "Black presidential candidate", as though that somehow adds credibility to the claim.

It's a good thing he said "black", else I would have thought it was the White Presidential candidate Alan Keyes demanding the birth certificate.

 

Juddog

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Originally posted by: L00PY
Originally posted by: Duwelon
Originally posted by: JS80
Originally posted by: L00PY
Originally posted by: K3N
Obama Birth Certificate Fraud Proof
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIsQJNTvlUE


Please try to disprove the second youtube link. Again please im asking, why can't obama realease his full birth certificate and even his college application?
I'll admit I jumped a bit around with that second link but it's pretty silly and way to slow. He seems to be repeating those tinfoil hat claims that the documentation Obama provided was a fake because there weren't folds, you couldn't see the raised seal, and so on.

All of that has been disproved. There are crease marks visible in other shots. There is a raised seal. There is a signature stamp. It is a legal document per Hawaii laws.

That's a laser printout that was recently printed. There is still a huge loophole for conspiracy theorists. I am over it all, but I would still like to see the following items to shut everyone up:

1) original birth certificate
2) SAT score
3) LSAT score
4) College transcripts

That should shut everyone up so we can move on to focus on how Obama plans to "change" this country.

That would dispell all conspiracy theories. Judging by the flippant and stupid replies attacking the OP, It's also exactly what the most of the leftist 24/7 posters on this forum are afraid of.

How many people have actually verified Obama's birth certificate / college transcripts? 5? All liberals? All leftists? There's many unanswered questions and until then there will be theories and leftist loons fuming with rage, like this thread, that Obama's messiah status is even brought into question.
The problem is that wouldn't dispel all the conspiracy theories. You can never appease them, even when you meet their demands with facts.

Conspiracy theorists claimed he wasn't a citizen.
Obama had the copy of birth certificate the campaign obtained released.
Conspiracy theorists said it was PhotoShop and "proved it" with analysis of text halos, lack of creases, lack of a raised seal, etc. . .
Obama had third parties examine it and more images popped up showing clear text, creases, a raised seal, etc. . .
Conspiracy theorists said it was a forgery and had "proof" from their forensic analysts.
Obama had the staffers in the Hawaii Department of Health verify that the document number was that of a legitimate birth certificate.
Conspiracy theorists said wouldn't believe it unless someone from the state made a public and official statement.
Obama had the Health Department Director and the registrar of vital statistics issue a press release stating they personally verified that the health department holds Obama's original birth certificate.

What's next? After releasing the original birth certificate, conspiracy theorists will want affidavits from the doctors and nurses. After releasing LSAT scores, conspiracy theorists will want every paper written while in law school. After releasing college transcripts, conspiracy theorists will want every exam taken in college. After releasing SAT scores, conspiracy theorists will want high school transcripts.

Conspiracy theorists claim cover up by the Governor, ignoring that she's Republican and has been anti-Obama. Conspiracy theorists claim special restrictions by the Hawaii government just for Obama's records, ignoring that the laws preventing the general release of everyone's records have been on the books for decades. Conspiracy theorists claim he wasn't born in Hawaii, ignoring the birth certificate and birth announcement in the paper. Conspiracy theorists claim he has a Kenyan birth certificate, ignoring the fact that they weren't required for foreigners back then, and foreigners had to find the right government office, wade through layers of bureaucracy, and pay a fee to get a Kenyan birth certificate issued.

The tinfoil hat brigade believes in a plot by both Republicans and Democrats, by a state governor and state officials, by the US government and the Kenyan government, by today's media and newspapers back in the 60s, and apparently in a white teenager's ability to mastermind a scheme to lay down a paper trail to make her Kenyan born son appear to be a natural born citizen because in the 1961 she thought her half black kid would someday become president, but also in a teenage mastermind that's somehow stupid enough to jump through hoops to pay for a Kenyan birth certificate before rushing back to the US.

Everyone else believes Obama was born in Hawaii.

Hahaha nice - you pretty much owned almost all of the tin foil hat wearing people in this forum all at once.
 

Genx87

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Is this going to be like the 9-11 truther movement?

I dont trust the Clintons with much. But I do trust they would have had this information and printed it before Obama beat Hillary.
 

sandorski

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Originally posted by: Genx87
Is this going to be like the 9-11 truther movement?

I dont trust the Clintons with much. But I do trust they would have had this information and printed it before Obama beat Hillary.

I suspect that Hillary stayed in the race just to make sure Obama was bullet proof. McCain had nothing concrete to introduce, because Hillary used it all. This is why Obama got a "Pass" from the Media when Palin came along, there was simply nothing New to report on Obama.
 

jonks

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Bristol is really Trig's mom. Let's look at the facts:

- Bristol left school for 5 months with "mono" and returned to school shortly after Trig was born.
- Sarah went back to work as governor 3 days after "giving birth." Quick recovery!
- Sarah went into labor in Texas, and instead of giving birth there, hopped on a plane back to alaska (!) when women aren't even supposed to fly in the last week of the pregnancy.
- The flight attendants on the plane said Palin didn't even look pregnant.
- After arriving in alaska she didn't go to the largest local hospital, but opted for a much longer route to a more private hospital.
- Palin to this day still refuses to publish her medical records despite the fact that this would immediately clear up this supposed conspiracy. Transparency, ftw.


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Originally posted by: K3N
if you can enable private message, i'd like to send you a very important documentary

no thanks, but your ideas are intriguing to me and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter!
 

Bird222

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Originally posted by: L00PY
The tinfoil hat brigade believes in a plot by both Republicans and Democrats, by a state governor and state officials, by the US government and the Kenyan government, by today's media and newspapers back in the 60s, and apparently in a white teenager's ability to mastermind a scheme to lay down a paper trail to make her Kenyan born son appear to be a natural born citizen because in the 1961 she thought her half black kid would someday become president, but also in a teenage mastermind that's somehow stupid enough to jump through hoops to pay for a Kenyan birth certificate before rushing back to the US.

Everyone else believes Obama was born in Hawaii.

This pretty much sums it up. I mean really come on. I better start falsifying records just in case my kid wants to be POTUS 50 years from now.
 

fskimospy

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I'm sort of sad K3N appears to have left. Lord only knows what additional insight he had to offer.
 

OutHouse

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why wont obama release his school records? what is he hiding? not very forth coming is he so i wonder what else he has or will hide from us.

 

James Bond

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Originally posted by: Citrix
why wont obama release his school records? what is he hiding? not very forth coming is he so i wonder what else he has or will hide from us.

Do you expect him to appease every little demand from every conspiracy theorist? He's already president-elect, people, give it up.
 

OutHouse

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Originally posted by: James Bond
Originally posted by: Citrix
why wont obama release his school records? what is he hiding? not very forth coming is he so i wonder what else he has or will hide from us.

Do you expect him to appease every little demand from every conspiracy theorist? He's already president-elect, people, give it up.

what is he hiding?
 

Bird222

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Originally posted by: Citrix
Originally posted by: James Bond
Originally posted by: Citrix
why wont obama release his school records? what is he hiding? not very forth coming is he so i wonder what else he has or will hide from us.

Do you expect him to appease every little demand from every conspiracy theorist? He's already president-elect, people, give it up.

what is he hiding?

The fact he made a 'D' in chemistry???
 

sandorski

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Originally posted by: Citrix
Originally posted by: James Bond
Originally posted by: Citrix
why wont obama release his school records? what is he hiding? not very forth coming is he so i wonder what else he has or will hide from us.

Do you expect him to appease every little demand from every conspiracy theorist? He's already president-elect, people, give it up.

what is he hiding?

When he joked abbout "Sharing" toys in kindergarten, he was telling the Truth! He's a Socialist!!!
 

Mani

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Originally posted by: Citrix
why wont obama release his school records? what is he hiding? not very forth coming is he so i wonder what else he has or will hide from us.

Because it will do nothing to appease the conspiracy theorists and will simply make them shift their focus from his citizenship to the fact that he got a C in History, or that he may have taken an AA studies course. At which point the question will be "why isn't he releasing the papers he wrote in his AA studies course? He is obviously a black liberation marxist!!!1111"
 

jpeyton

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Game changer.

October surprise.

McCain is going to win.