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Black Couple Only Shopping at Black-owned Businesses

n yusef

n yusef

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Do you think that it's racist for a black couple to only shop from black-owned businesses? In this situation, where they are trying to support their own community, and not boycotting white- or Asian- or Hispanic-owned businesses, I don't think so. To me, it's no different than choosing to buy locally-made goods, something that we often celebrate, and supporting an ethnic community. Immigrants frequently segregate themselves from the rest of society, and shop at businesses owned by people from their community. Their American-born children often continue to shop from Non-white owned businesses. Not out of hate, but to support their community.

Do you agree with me?
 
If a white couple would only shop at white owned businesses, would you consider that racist? I think we all know the answer to that....
 
Originally posted by: newnameman
If a white couple would only shop at white owned businesses, would you consider that racist? I think we all know the answer to that....
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No I wouldn't. There's a very good chance that you only or primarily shop at White-owned businesses. Not out of malice, but because most businesses, especially those in predominantly-white neighborhoods, are White-owned.

I already admitted to supporting people who shop local. Shopping local in predominantly white areas is only shopping at white-owned businesses.

Think, when was the last time you shopped at a black-owned business? My Aunt (who's black) owns a yarn store and cafe in New York City that I visited a couple years ago.
 
It's racial. Whether it's racist, IMO, is affected by accounting for economic disparity between whites and blacks.

If whites only shop at white places, it's likely because of a hate for blacks. If blacks only shop at black places, it might be hate and racist - or might be because of inequities.

If it's the latter, it's not racist, IMO - it's actually responding to, correcting, the racism of the past that created inequity.
 
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How could I possibly? Of course it's racist. They are using the race of business owners to determine whether they do or do not shop. Very cut and dry, "black and white" to me.

I couldn't really care much less, though. Honestly, if they are only shopping at black owned businesses, they're doing a lot of driving around looking for places to spend money.
 
Originally posted by: Skoorb
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How could I possibly? Of course it's racist. They are using the race of business owners to determine whether they do or do not shop. Very cut and dry, "black and white" to me.

I couldn't really care much less, though. Honestly, if they are only shopping at black owned businesses, they're doing a lot of driving around looking for places to spend money.
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Racist doesn't mean 'based on race'. It refers to the animosity, the disrespect, for a race as the motive.

You can be racist and not take any action at all.

Taking action based on race is not necessarily racist.
 
Black Couple Only Shopping at Black-owned Businesses
Is that racist?
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No, it's their money, their time....their right

Although ignorant dumb asses and the media would try to blow this into a racial issue, race has nothing to do with it.

Oh and having watched the clip...these two are out for 15 minutes of fame....they got it.

 
Originally posted by: Craig234
Originally posted by: Skoorb
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How could I possibly? Of course it's racist. They are using the race of business owners to determine whether they do or do not shop. Very cut and dry, "black and white" to me.

I couldn't really care much less, though. Honestly, if they are only shopping at black owned businesses, they're doing a lot of driving around looking for places to spend money.
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Racist doesn't mean 'based on race'. It refers to the animosity, the disrespect, for a race as the motive.

You can be racist and not take any action at all.

Taking action based on race is not necessarily racist.
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OK, but in these people's case I find it very hard to believe they are not being a little racist, at least, even if they don't think they are.
Although ignorant dumb asses and the media would try to blow this into a racial issue, race has nothing to do with it.
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Race has everything to do with it. What else does it have to do with? They are only patronizing black businesses.

 
Originally posted by: Skoorb
OK, but in these people's case I find it very hard to believe they are not being a little racist, at least, even if they don't think they are.
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I just laid out why it's possible either that they are, or are not - not which is the case here.
 
I don't see how anyone could possibly classify it as not being racist.

Trying to do business with only shops owned by someone of a certain race is basically saying "I want to support this race, not that one", which is inherently racist.
 
Originally posted by: PokerGuy
I don't see how anyone could possibly classify it as not being racist.

Trying to do business with only shops owned by someone of a certain race is basically saying "I want to support this race, not that one", which is inherently racist.
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Yeah... I can see it as if it were some ethnic shops where you can only get certain products, but if it's not, well....
 
Originally posted by: PokerGuy
I don't see how anyone could possibly classify it as not being racist.

Trying to do business with only shops owned by someone of a certain race is basically saying "I want to support this race, not that one", which is inherently racist.
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No, it's not, as I explained in my post you did not read or did not account for.
 
Originally posted by: n yusef
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Do you think that it's racist for a black couple to only shop from black-owned businesses? In this situation, where they are trying to support their own community, and not boycotting white- or Asian- or Hispanic-owned businesses, I don't think so. To me, it's no different than choosing to buy locally-made goods, something that we often celebrate, and supporting an ethnic community. Immigrants frequently segregate themselves from the rest of society, and shop at businesses owned by people from their community. Their American-born children often continue to shop from Non-white owned businesses. Not out of hate, but to support their community.

Do you agree with me?
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LOL, a "support your local race" kind of thing?

I'd have to say it's a little racist. They are following a pattern of discrimination, aren't they? However it's nothing like if the owner of a black store would only serves blacks.

They are free to do as they wish. It's their money.

 
Originally posted by: nobodyknows
LOL, a "support your local race" kind of thing?

I'd have to say it's a little racist. They are following a pattern of discrimination, aren't they? However it's nothing like if the owner of a black store would only serves blacks.

They are free to do as they wish. It's their money.
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I'm going to have to make a macro to refer to my two first responses above on why the answer is 'depends'.

But I'll quote for you:

Whether it's racist, IMO, is affected by accounting for economic disparity between whites and blacks.

If whites only shop at white places, it's likely because of a hate for blacks. If blacks only shop at black places, it might be hate and racist - or might be because of inequities.

If it's the latter, it's not racist, IMO - it's actually responding to, correcting, the racism of the past that created inequity...

Racist doesn't mean 'based on race'. It refers to the animosity, the disrespect, for a race as the motive.

You can be racist and not take any action at all.

Taking action based on race is not necessarily racist.
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Even bolded the key line.
 
It's racially-motivated, but it's not racist.

Jews shop at Jewish stores.

In the 20s and 30s, Italians shopped at Italian-owned stores.

Indians shop at indian stores.

It happens everywhere with every ethnicity. It doesn't make them racist, it makes them supportive of their own ethnicity.
 
Originally posted by: Craig234
Originally posted by: nobodyknows
LOL, a "support your local race" kind of thing?

I'd have to say it's a little racist. They are following a pattern of discrimination, aren't they? However it's nothing like if the owner of a black store would only serves blacks.

They are free to do as they wish. It's their money.
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I'm going to have to make a macro to refer to my two first responses above on why the answer is 'depends'.

But I'll quote for you:

Whether it's racist, IMO, is affected by accounting for economic disparity between whites and blacks.

If whites only shop at white places, it's likely because of a hate for blacks. If blacks only shop at black places, it might be hate and racist - or might be because of inequities.

If it's the latter, it's not racist, IMO - it's actually responding to, correcting, the racism of the past that created inequity...

Racist doesn't mean 'based on race'. It refers to the animosity, the disrespect, for a race as the motive.

You can be racist and not take any action at all.

Taking action based on race is not necessarily racist.
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Even bolded the key line.
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LOL!!

Well, my definition of racism is "discrimination or prejudice based on race". They are practicing racism, ergo it's racist.

 
Originally posted by: 0marTheZealot
It's racially-motivated, but it's not racist.

Jews shop at Jewish stores.

In the 20s and 30s, Italians shopped at Italian-owned stores.

Indians shop at indian stores.

It happens everywhere with every ethnicity. It doesn't make them racist, it makes them supportive of their own ethnicity.
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I'm sorry, but if Jews or Indians shopped ONLY at Jewish or Indians stores and then BRAGGED about it I would call that racist also.
 
Originally posted by: 0marTheZealot
It's racially-motivated, but it's not racist.

Jews shop at Jewish stores.

In the 20s and 30s, Italians shopped at Italian-owned stores.

Indians shop at indian stores.

It happens everywhere with every ethnicity. It doesn't make them racist, it makes them supportive of their own ethnicity.
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The reason those people shop at their own ethnic store if b/c they can only get specialty items at those store. That's not racially motivated. It's based on their need for a type of product that most store don't sell. I know as a Korean, I can only get Korean items at a Korean grocery. Those things aside, I could care less about the skin color of an owner. It's about service, quality, and price.
 
Originally posted by: nobodyknows

LOL!!

Well, my definition of racism is "discrimination or prejudice based on race". They are practicing racism, ergo it's racist.
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I'd make an analogy to the reparations paid to WWII Japanese internees. The reparations discriminated by race, but were they 'racist'?

No, the original internment may have been racist - depending whether other races would have been treated similarly - but this was to counter a wrong done to that race.

If they shop at black stores to counter previous racism against blacks, IMO it's not racist. If they do it because they hate non-blacks, it's racist.
 
Originally posted by: Craig234
Originally posted by: nobodyknows
LOL, a "support your local race" kind of thing?

I'd have to say it's a little racist. They are following a pattern of discrimination, aren't they? However it's nothing like if the owner of a black store would only serves blacks.

They are free to do as they wish. It's their money.
Click to expand...

I'm going to have to make a macro to refer to my two first responses above on why the answer is 'depends'.

But I'll quote for you:

Whether it's racist, IMO, is affected by accounting for economic disparity between whites and blacks.

If whites only shop at white places, it's likely because of a hate for blacks. If blacks only shop at black places, it might be hate and racist - or might be because of inequities.

If it's the latter, it's not racist, IMO - it's actually responding to, correcting, the racism of the past that created inequity...

Racist doesn't mean 'based on race'. It refers to the animosity, the disrespect, for a race as the motive.

You can be racist and not take any action at all.

Taking action based on race is not necessarily racist.
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Even bolded the key line.
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Saying they are free to do as they wish is stating the obvious. I can go to a street corner and call black people the n word or any other racial slur and that is my right because it's free speech. It's still racist.
 
Originally posted by: Craig234

I couldn't really care much less, though. Honestly, if they are only shopping at black owned businesses, they're doing a lot of driving around looking for places to spend money.
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Racist doesn't mean 'based on race'. It refers to the animosity, the disrespect, for a race as the motive.

You can be racist and not take any action at all.

Taking action based on race is not necessarily racist.[/quote]

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/racist

Is this not a case of racial discrimination?

Taking action based on race is discrimination which is the very definition of racism.
 
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