Black activist punched at Trump rally

[umbrella39]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-punched-at-donald-trump-rally-in-birmingham/

BIRMINGHAM, Ala. — A white man punched and attempted to choke a black protester who was thrown on the ground at a Donald Trump rally here on Saturday morning, as an onlooker yelled, "Don't choke him! Don't choke him!"

The protester, identified by local media as well-known activist Mercutio Southall Jr., started shouting during Trump's speech and could be heard yelling, "Black lives matter!" A fight broke out around him, prompting Trump to briefly halt the rally and demand the removal of Southall.

The crowd alternated between cheering and booing as security officers pushed their way through the crowd of several thousand. Southall fell to the ground and was surrounded by several white men who appeared to be kicking and punching him.

"Get him the hell out of here, will you, please?" Trump said.

Remind me what other party used to beat protesters at rallies? What did they call them again? Storm Troopers? Everything old is new again...

 

[DucatiMonster696]

Punched? More like flailed about in a exaggerated manner while security was trying to escort him out for crashing a private event.

Oh by "Black Activist" you are talking about a BLM activist. I.e. the same group who have sent their people to crap all over Bernie Sander's campaign events in an effort to grab headlines.

http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/...ally-nat-vo.cnn/video/playlists/donald-trump/

 

[fskimospy]

Punched? More like flailed about in a exaggerated manner while security was trying to escort him out for crashing a private event.

Oh by "Black Activist" you are talking about a BLM activist the same group who have sent their people crapped all over Bernie Sanders campaign events in an effort to grab headlines.

http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/...ally-nat-vo.cnn/video/playlists/donald-trump/

I like how the child being taken down by a cop 'punched' him but in this case that's not a punch.

Lol.

 

[umbrella39]

OK what video are you watching? The one on the linked page shows the aftermath. You do realize that the reported altercation took place before the footage of him being escorted out, right? Crashing a private event? You quote the Constitution but sort of pick and choose which parts you agree with then, eh? He has a right to say what he wants and they have a right to escort him out. Apparently in your eyes he has a right to be beaten by the crowd, too. smh

Donald Trump suggested Sunday the half-dozen white attendees at his campaign rally on Saturday may have reacted appropriately when they shoved, tackled, punched and kicked a black protester who disrupted his speech.

"Maybe he should have been roughed up because it was absolutely disgusting what he was doing,"

Hell of a guy that Trump. I can see why his is the hero of so many of you...

EDIT: I've seen the one DM696 linked and there which also appears to have started sometime after he was being assaulted.

 

[DucatiMonster696]

OK what video are you watching? The one on the linked page shows the aftermath. You do realize that the reported altercation took place before the footage of him being escorted out, right? Crashing a private event? You quote the Constitution but sort of pick and choose which parts you agree with then, eh? He has a right to say what he wants and they have a right to escort him out. Apparently in your eyes he has a right to be beaten by the crowd, too. smh



Hell of a guy that Trump. I can see why his is the hero of so many of you...

If you have another video post it up so we can view it. So far the only video that has surfaced is the one that CNN and other news outlets have flocked around and used where you can see the guy himself being escorted out away from the main hall in the lobby area.

Donald Trump suggested Sunday the half-dozen white attendees at his campaign rally on Saturday may have reacted appropriately when they shoved, tackled, punched and kicked a black protester who disrupted his speech.

Also this isn't a direct quote by Trump. It's a statement by the writer who interjects the claims made by the guy (who claims he was punched, kicked, etc) on top of Trump's actual quoted statement below. It's a nice way to skewer Trump using his own words without providing any other tangible evidence to support the claim.

P.S. The Constitution does not protect your ability to gate crash a private event. Also this guy crashed Trump's event with the specific purpose of drawing attention to himself which usually entails creating conflict and/or shoving aside the main purpose of the event so that he and his group's agenda can get a spotlight and media attention at the expense of others there.

 

[sandorski]

Didn't notice a punch or kick, may have missed it I suppose. Did notice one big shove from someone in the crowd as he was being escorted.

 

[umbrella39]

Also this isn't a direct quote by Trump. It's a statement by the writer who interjects the claims made by the guy (who claims he was punched, kicked, etc) on top of Trump's actual quoted statement below. Its a nice way to skewer Trump using his own words without providing any other tangible evidence to support the claim.

You edited your quote of me to remove this part: "Maybe he should have been roughed up because it was absolutely disgusting what he was doing,"

Sorry but I am quoting him directly, here is Breitbart:

On “Fox News Sunday” this morning, Trump said, “I will tell you the man that — I don’t know— you say was he roughed up, he was so obnoxious and so loud. He was screaming. I had 10,000 people in the room yesterday, 10,000 — and this guy starts screaming by himself. I don’t know roughed up? Maybe he should have been roughed up because it was absolutely disgusting what he was doing.”

http://www.breitbart.com/video/2015...otester-maybe-he-should-have-been-roughed-up/

 

[sandorski]

You edited your quote of me to remove this part: "Maybe he should have been roughed up because it was absolutely disgusting what he was doing,"

Sorry but I am quoting him directly, here is Breitbart:



http://www.breitbart.com/video/2015...otester-maybe-he-should-have-been-roughed-up/

Wow. That's fucked up.

 

[umbrella39]

P.S. The Constitution does not protect your ability to gate crash a private event.

You'll have to forgive me the only rally I have ever been to wasn't by invite only. Are you saying there were invitations to attend? If so then I agree he was crashing but that still doesn't give the crowd the right to do what they are reported to have done. I have watched only two videos the one on the OP where I linked to the Washington Post and the one you linked and there is a lot of people in the way obscuring what may or may not have happened and a couple of times where what people were yelling to him had to be beeped out.

 

[DucatiMonster696]

You edited your quote of me to remove this part: "Maybe he should have been roughed up because it was absolutely disgusting what he was doing,"

Sorry but I am quoting him directly, here is Breitbart:



http://www.breitbart.com/video/2015...otester-maybe-he-should-have-been-roughed-up/

"Roughed up" is general and broad phrase because it all depends on the person's definition of "roughed up".

So if Trump is guilty of anything then he is guilty of being vague about what he specifically meant by being "roughed up", i.e. did he mean the man being firmly escorted out and tossed out or does it mean being beaten down in a savage manner and then thrown out, etc??

Additionally this phrase does not provide any conclusive evidence that the man in question was indeed punched, kicked, etc, as again the same video is shown on the link you provided. In fact is the only conclusive piece of video evidence we have so far seen of what transpired outside in the lobby area of this speaking hall.

Lastly, I say this again. This "activist" sole agenda was to do what BLM folks have done to Bernie Sanders and that is to take the event hostage to push their agenda at the expense of the people there and at the expense of the speak, Trump (or more specifically his campaign which he is funding out of his own pocket for the most part) who booked this PRIVATE hall for this campaign rally.

So why is anyone surprised that he was tossed out? Could the BLM folks crash and take over a White House press meeting being hosted by Obama and not get tossed out by the secret service and then hide behind "Free Speech"???

I don't think so, because their right to speech does not trump other's right to also speak and host their events. Especially in regards to a private event.

 

[Subyman]

Uhm Ducati, what are you actually defending here? Trump is a moron that seems A-OK with his crowd beating on a protester. Just think on that for a bit before trying to defend him.

 

[DucatiMonster696]

Uhm Ducati, what are you actually defending here? Trump is a moron that seems A-OK with his crowd beating on a protester. Just think on that for a bit before trying to defend him.

Beating a protester? Show me a video of them actually beating a protester at this event??

Sorry if I don't automatically jump on the bandwagon of accepting claims made by a "activist" with an agenda or the populist, feel good hate directed at Trump for speaking his mind on issues leftist consider to be sacrosanct so that there is no room for disagreement and anyone who dares to disagree is automatically branded with a host labels such as "racist", "homophobe", "misogynist", etc in order silence them or get others to stop listening.

 

[fskimospy]

"Roughed up" is general and broad phrase because it all depends on the person's definition of "roughed up".

So if Trump is guilty of anything then he is guilty of being vague about what he specifically meant by being "roughed up", i.e. did he mean the man being firmly escorted out and tossed out or does it mean being beaten down in a savage manner and then thrown out, etc??

Additionally this phrase does not provide any conclusive evidence that the man in question was indeed punched, kicked, etc, as again the same video is shown on the link you provided. In fact is the only conclusive piece of video evidence we have so far seen of what transpired outside in the lobby area of this speaking hall.

Lastly, I say this again. This "activist" sole agenda was to do what BLM folks have done to Bernie Sanders and that is to take the event hostage to push their agenda at the expense of the people there and at the expense of the speak, Trump (or more specifically his campaign which he is funding out of his own pocket for the most part) who booked this PRIVATE hall for this campaign rally.

So why is anyone surprised that he was tossed out? Could the BLM folks crash and take over a White House press meeting being hosted by Obama and not get tossed out by the secret service and then hide behind "Free Speech"???

I don't think so, because their right to speech does not trump other's right to also speak and host their events. Especially in regards to a private event.

This is some amazing rationalization.

The right answer here is to condemn both trump's crowd and trump himself. Look, it's not like we don't know he's a horrible person already, so what new are you really admitting to?

 

[DigDog]

so they treated a BLM guy the same way the the BLM guys treat reporters, police, service personnel, and generally all white guys who go to their rallies.

poetic justice?

 

[DucatiMonster696]

This is some amazing rationalization.

The right answer here is to condemn both trump's crowd and trump himself. Look, it's not like we don't know he's a horrible person already, so what new are you really admitting to?

If someone in the crowd went after this guy without any provocation (i.e. simply because he was voicing a dissenting opinion) then yes bad on them and if Trump actively promoted that this guy be physically attacked/beaten for having an opposing view then shame on him as well. But where is the evidence? Do you have it?

Additionally the entire commentary and narration of the events for this encounter is narrowly being relayed and disseminated via the conduit of claims made by this "activist" and you aren't hearing (or seemingly willing to hear) all sides of the story. Yet subconsciously you've already filled in the details for yourself via your own bias so I can see how you've come to your own conclusions about this event and those involved.

Lastly, it's pretty safe to say that this guy (the "activist") was there for one thing and one thing only, a purposeful confrontation via direct agitation with either Trump himself or his supporters at this event all in order to get a reaction. This has been is the modus operandi for groups like BLM in the past at political campaign events and it has not changed one bit so far it seems. Again they did this to Bernie Sander's (someone you think they would support and bolster) on numerous occasions and it comes to no surprise that this would occur at a pro-Trump rally.

In other words the likelihood is that this guy did not attend this pro-Trump campaign event to engage in any sort of meaningful dialogue, debate or peaceful dissent in the form of protesting where he was going to just hold up a sign and chant some anti-Trump slogans, etc. The intent was to create conflict at an event and then issue out condemnation and accusations which is part and parcel a working strategy of the radical left when they want to stifle and/or silence those they disagree with vehemently.

 

[umbrella39]

so they treated a BLM guy the same way the the BLM guys treat reporters, police, service personnel, and generally all white guys who go to their rallies.

poetic justice?

Um... no. More like false equivalence...

 

[Vic]

so they treated a BLM guy the same way the the BLM guys treat reporters, police, service personnel, and generally all white guys who go to their rallies.

poetic justice?

Example?

 

[DucatiMonster696]

Example?

Bernie getting cucked by BLM

***Bernie Sanders Rally Shut Down By #BlackLivesMatter***

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoRleNh_EEw

"If you do not listen to her then your event will be shut down! Make that decision now!"

Threat being made to Bernie Sander's campaign event staffer.

 

[Vic]

Bernie getting cucked by BLM

***Bernie Sanders Rally Shut Down By #BlackLivesMatter***

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoRleNh_EEw

Did any Presidential candidate come out later and approve of this behavior?

 

[K1052]

Bernie getting cucked by BLM

***Bernie Sanders Rally Shut Down By #BlackLivesMatter***

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoRleNh_EEw



Threat being made to Bernie Sanders campaign staffers.

That's a far cry from a leading candidate suggesting the use of violence. Not even in the same ballpark.

I hope Trump secures the nomination. It will take decades for the party to recover, fitting punishment for allowing this grim spectacle to continue.

 

[Vic]

Um... no. More like false equivalence...

Yeah well, the biggest logical failure that I've seen among the Trumpettes is that they can't seem to understand that two wrongs don't make a right. Their emotional sense of entitlement is practically psychotic.

 

[Vic]

That's a far cry from a leading candidate suggesting the use of violence. Not even in the same ballpark.

I hope Trump secures the nomination. It will take decades for the party to recover, fitting punishment for allowing this grim spectacle to continue.

I disagree. I think we've entertained this blatant fascism in our midst for long enough.

 

[umbrella39]

So basically what I am hearing is that BLM have disrupted Dem candidate rallies, too, with the notable exception of not being called racist names nor beaten by the crowd in attendance...

 

[DucatiMonster696]

That's a far cry from a leading candidate suggesting the use of violence. Not even in the same ballpark.

I hope Trump secures the nomination. It will take decades for the party to recover, fitting punishment for allowing this grim spectacle to continue.

Vaguely suggesting that some should be firmly removed from disrupting and hijacking your event =! advocating actual direct violence. Then again I can make an equal assumption that maybe you believe these people have a right to hijack all presidential candidates events and stifle the right of the hosting speakers to express themselves.

 

[K1052]

I disagree. I think we've entertained this blatant fascism in our midst for long enough.

If the GOP had any spine at all they would have pushed him out of the party, political consequences be dammned. Let him run independently if he wants. The presidency isn't worth this on a matter moral principle or even practically since he would probably cause them to loose seats (or even majorities).

Unfortunately it's looking more and more likely that the voters themselves will have to jettison this raging moral dumpster fire.