bit-tech.net reveals Ivy Bridge details

[lehtv]

All About Intel Ivy Bridge

Or, everything you need to know, six months before you need to know it

If there’s one thing we love about attending IDF (the Intel Developer Forum) it’s that we usually walk away knowing pretty much everything about a next-gen Intel CPU - from its architecture, through Intel's innovations to reduce its power draw, and even how to overclock the nuts off it. This is the case with Ivy Bridge, Intel’s next-gen LGA1155 CPU family, which we expect to see in March or April of 2012.

Read more: http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/cpus/2011/10/10/all-about-ivy-bridge/1

 

[arredondo]

It doesn't work with 1,333MHz RAM?

 

[exar333]

It doesn't work with 1,333MHz RAM?

It officially supports 'up to' 1600mhz DDR3. Many MB makers allow speeds much higher, even 1000+mhz higher in some cases.

 

[lehtv]

It doesn't work with 1,333MHz RAM?

It's not stated in the article but I think it will work with 1333MHz RAM despite 1600MHz being the default, just like SB works with 1066 despite 1333 being the default. Would be kind of dumb for Intel to shoot themselves in the foot by not letting the vast majority of SB users upgrade to Ivy Bridge, despite the MB chipset supporting such an upgrade.

 

[exar333]

The 'low-voltage' DDR3L memory support looks very promising on the mobile side. That could seriously add a noticable amount of battery-life gain plus keep maximum power-draw significantly lower.

 

[arredondo]

I read this in the article (pg. 3):

Ivy Bridge will officially support 1,600MHz DDR3 memory rather than 1,333MHz.

 

[lehtv]

I read this in the article (pg. 3):

I know. It doesn't mean 1333MHz doesn't work. 1333MHz is the official recommendation for sandy bridge, but 1066mhz works too.

 

[Ancalagon44]

Knowing Intel, it will be delivered on schedule and performing appropriately.

As much as I used to be an AMD fan, I'm tired of supporting a company that just doesnt deliver.

 

[toyota]

Knowing Intel, it will be delivered on schedule and performing appropriately.

As much as I used to be an AMD fan, I'm tired of supporting a company that just doesnt deliver.

you do realize Sandy Bridge E and Ivy Bridge were delayed...

 

[exar333]

you do realize Sandy Bridge E and Ivy Bridge were delayed...

Definitely. According to your math, does 2 months = 3 years?

 

[toyota]

Definitely. According to your math, does 2 months = 3 years?

2 months, 6 months, or 3 years is still not "delivered on schedule" and that was my point. AMD's delays are pretty ridiculous though.

 

[Vdubchaos]

I thought Anandtech did a nice job with the preview.

No big changes for gaming application....but we will see.

 

[exar333]

2 months, 6 months, or 3 years is still not "delivered on schedule" and that was my point.

 

[dma0991]

Thanks OP for the great read and for tempting me to wait for IB instead.

 

[SickBeast]

you do realize Sandy Bridge E and Ivy Bridge were delayed...

Not only that, but the initial Sandy Bridge motherboards were defective. D:

 

[imaheadcase]

Will they have a Ivy Bridge LGA2011? If for some magical reason its worth it to upgrade from SB-E chipset..i wonder if it will be possible with a BIOS upgrade.

 

[exar333]

Will they have a Ivy Bridge LGA2011? If for some magical reason its worth it to upgrade from SB-E chipset..i wonder if it will be possible with a BIOS upgrade.

Most likely, yes. IB will already be a drop-in for the existing 1155 crowd.

 

[mmaestro]

Thanks OP for the great read and for tempting me to wait for IB instead.

Honestly, were I buying now, I'd get a nice mobo with PCI-E 3.0, pop in an i3 for the time being, and then build a second computer using the i3 once IB came out for kitchen/garage/wherever. But YMMV on whether that would work for you.

 

[greenhawk]

you do realize Sandy Bridge E and Ivy Bridge were delayed...

Ivy Bridge's delay IIRC is more from intel being "nice" to it's wholesale customers after Sandy Bridge's bad start with the bad chipsets.

SB-E though, I can not remember any reason other than "because". That is besides it's motherboard's getting hacked and hacked in regards to features so intel can make the release target of 2011 (in line with the pin counts). I still feel that the release is more of a paper release than a product release. Time will tell.

 

[dma0991]

Honestly, were I buying now, I'd get a nice mobo with PCI-E 3.0, pop in an i3 for the time being, and then build a second computer using the i3 once IB came out for kitchen/garage/wherever. But YMMV on whether that would work for you.

It would have worked if I had built it months ago but it should be like 6 months at most for IB and Intel is more likely to be on time with IB despite minor delay. I'll wait till then as the Panther Point chipsets might bring about some extra features that current Z68 boards do not have.

Looks like the 8GB RAM that I just bought would be collecting dust for another 6 months. Luckily I bought DDR3-1600 modules.

 

[frozentundra123456]

2 months, 6 months, or 3 years is still not "delivered on schedule" and that was my point. AMD's delays are pretty ridiculous though.

Not only the delays, but if all indications are correct, after all the delays they still have an underachieveing product.

 

[garagisti]

Ivy Bridge's delay IIRC is more from intel being "nice" to it's wholesale customers after Sandy Bridge's bad start with the bad chipsets...

Lol, i needed a laugh after having missed a call for an interview. Thank you!

Did you ever think that OEM's will have something to say about left over inventory if new chippery arrives? Let us not even go into detailing difficulties of mastering a smaller node, on top of which several changes are being implemented on gpu front (albeit big ones wait till Haswell), and to do this all under a given TDP target. Let us just leave it at being considerate to its partners.

Oh yes, lest we forget, remember how Intel willy nilly craps on ISA's and changes it. It slows down progress in x86 computing. If Intel gave a damn about users, it wouldn't have had dhot down SSE5, FMA4 etc.

On the other hand, AMD. I know SATA works

However, where's my chippery AMD?

 

[bunnyfubbles]

since IB should be just a drop in (IIRC Z77/Z78 chipset or whatever it will be called will only offer official USB3.0 and PCIe 3.0 over Z68, which I don't need), it will definitely make a nice upgrade path.

Although I'm still bumming over the nerfing of X79 and its storage controller system to be specific, was really hoping that'd be my next upgrade path

 

[lehtv]

Despite Ivy Bridge looking quite nice, I think I can hold out until Haswell in spring '13 (if all goes according to plan)... as long as my 28nm GPU upgrade isn't bottlenecked, which I doubt (I could push this OC a bit)

 

[SickBeast]

All of these new CPUs coming out seem to be incremental upgrades. Ivy Bridge looks like it will be 10% faster than Sandy Bridge. Bulldozer looks to perform worse clock-for-clock compared with Phenom II, and then Bulldozer's successor is supposedly 10% faster.

It seems as though the days when we would see CPUs released that were an order of magnitude faster than anything else on the market are gone. It's too bad.

It's looking like my Phenom II setup is going to last me at least another year in terms of gaming.