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StrangerGuy

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Intel launches are so good that they can say X% IPC increase, Y% less power draw etc and no one will bat an eyelid.
 

grkM3

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Ivy is not delayed,when was intel supposed to put a tick and a tock out in the same year?

sandy e is delayed a little but it never got an official release date anyways.

Just like I told the AMD camp,intel will leak out all its up coming cpus right before AMD launched BD to kill there sales.
 

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Ivy is not delayed,when was intel supposed to put a tick and a tock out in the same year?

sandy e is delayed a little but it never got an official release date anyways.

Just like I told the AMD camp,intel will leak out all its up coming cpus right before AMD launched BD to kill there sales.

???

No there delying the launch because the processor is not up to specs as they wished.

But they are not denying the benches which have come out already.

Currently if cooler got a sample, he most likely has a pre release ES.
How do i know? Because i used to get them at the same time he would, and would have to sit on the cpu for about 3-6 months b4 i could say anything in regards to them.

If cooler is showing off a CPU, then at most.. 6 months b4 it hits retail, thats with all the delays and a possible new stepping for retail.
 

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Ivy is not delayed,when was intel supposed to put a tick and a tock out in the same year?

sandy e is delayed a little but it never got an official release date anyways.

Just like I told the AMD camp,intel will leak out all its up coming cpus right before AMD launched BD to kill there sales.

The one you're waiting for is coming in 2013! Haswell. If you're waiting for IB with SB in your rig, well you're not going to see much improvement unless you plan to use igp, or mobile versions.
 

aigomorla

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The one you're waiting for is coming in 2013! Haswell. If you're waiting for IB with SB in your rig, well you're not going to see much improvement unless you plan to use igp, or mobile versions.

lol +1 this...

this is what ive been telling everyone..
 

grkM3

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Toyota said ivy bridge is delayed,its NOT...intel was never going to put a tic and a toc out in the same year.Ivy bridge from day one was supposed to come out in the year 2012 or get specs at end of 2011.

intel does not put out a shrink of the same chip in the same year.

That is all Im saying,its not delayed its actually right on sch.
 

toyota

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Toyota said ivy bridge is delayed,its NOT...intel was never going to put a tic and a toc out in the same year.Ivy bridge from day one was supposed to come out in the year 2012 or get specs at end of 2011.

intel does not put out a shrink of the same chip in the same year.

That is all Im saying,its not delayed its actually right on sch.
Sandy Bridge E was supposed to be out earlier but was delayed a little bit. Ivy Bridge most certainly got delayed a bit from when it was intended to come out which was very end 2011 or very beginning 2012. it will now be out in the Spring so YES that is a small delay.
 

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lol +1 this...

this is what ive been telling everyone..

Man your a glutten for punishment. You did the same thing with SB . and look how that turned out . IB . is even a bigger impact than SB . Increase all over clocking values min, of 500mhz. . I won't debate clock for clock gain again . But I say 20% gain Others will say 10% AT will say 15% just like he has the last 4 tick tock tick tocks. But we did somehow manage to get from Conroe to SB By having better than 10% increases . Besides The Igp improvements have to be included now that IVB is DX11 CL1.1.. Its going to be interesting . Its to bad fall IDF intel had to kinda sit on the IVB info as BD was the hairy monster in the closet .
 

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Sandy Bridge E was supposed to be out earlier but was delayed a little bit. Ivy Bridge most certainly got delayed a bit from when it was intended to come out which was very end 2011 or very beginning 2012. it will now be out in the Spring so YES that is a small delay.

can you show me where intel was supposed to release a new arch and a shrink of it in the same year?

no where was ivy bridge supposed to come out the same year as sandy.Intel does not do a tic and a toc in the same year.

ivy is right on sch and will come out shortly after sandy E.It was never supposed to come out the same year as sandy came out in.that dosnt make any marketing sence at all and is a waste of making a 32nm sandy
 

toyota

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can you show me where intel was supposed to release a new arch and a shrink of it in the same year?

no where was ivy bridge supposed to come out the same year as sandy.Intel does not do a tic and a toc in the same year.

ivy is right on sch and will come out shortly after sandy E.It was never supposed to come out the same year as sandy came out in.that dosnt make any marketing sence at all and is a waste of making a 32nm sandy
you are right, Ivy Bridge is coming out right on schedule and has not been delayed by even a day...
 

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If IBV is on the selves befor march its on time but intel did talk of ear;ier qt1 releases.

The G1 and G2 thing I not buying that story line . Intel just doesn't work like that.

IGP G1 12 EU IGP G2 16EU???? That doesn't sound like or act like intel . I think its 24EU 2 complete G1 Modules sounds like intel.
 

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Ivy Bridge was originally scheduled to launch in January of 2012 but has been pushed back till March
 

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Sandy Bridge E was supposed to be out earlier but was delayed a little bit. Ivy Bridge most certainly got delayed a bit from when it was intended to come out which was very end 2011 or very beginning 2012. it will now be out in the Spring so YES that is a small delay.


I doubt this is the case

IB will be coming out later than what rumors sites speculated on. Now I know that sometimes those speculations are based on slides that come from Intel. I'm sure that Intel doesn't discuss everything about how its company works but I would guess that part of the decision of when to launch a new product involves market conditions.

I don't think there is or was any (abnormal) problem with Intel's 22nm production nor the IB design. Their reasoning for launching IB when it will be is likely based on other factors IMO.

Now with SB-E I believe there were some problems. Not with the cpu (thought that may also be) but likely with the motherboard chipsets that resulted in a delay from their original launch date that is not market related.
 

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Man your a glutten for punishment. You did the same thing with SB . and look how that turned out . IB . is even a bigger impact than SB .


You think the impact of IB (over SB) will be more significant of that of SB over the i7 920? To whom, "regular" users or "enthusiast" class like I would describe most Anandtech forum posters? I'm not following it too closely but that would surprise me. I do remember how aigomorla used to pan SB every chance he had saying that we would all be disappointed...




Increase all over clocking values min, of 500mhz.


Where did you come across this info? Do you know the sample size?



The Igp improvements have to be included now that IVB is DX11 CL1.1.


Ha! Nothing HAS to be included, it is all choice. Intel will include it because it helps market their product. Most users on this forum won't because they use discrete graphics.
 

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Man your a glutten for punishment. You did the same thing with SB . and look how that turned out .

ummm.... First off THANK YOU FOR SAYING THIS...

Maybe it will show people I AM NOT A INTEL OR AMD CAMP.
I JUST BASH BOTH CAMPS CONTINUOUSLY..

no i said if ur already on a gulftown, SB was pointless...

Have i been wrong in that comment?


I also said if ur on a high clocking 920, like a 4.2ghz... a 2600k is a slight step up... not a real upgrade.

When people look for performance increase... they typically want something like

P4 -> C2D
C2D -> i7

1366 i7 -> another 1155 i7 gen 2... isnt much of an upgrade... i would actually more call it a tock because consumer 1156 i7's never got to see westmere.


the first launch... im not holding up for much... the next cpu's to follow, is where u might see me sneaking in another preview later on next year..

That is what i got my eyes on.
 
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TuxDave

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The one you're waiting for is coming in 2013! Haswell. If you're waiting for IB with SB in your rig, well you're not going to see much improvement unless you plan to use igp, or mobile versions.

No no no, the one you REALLY want is the one AFTER that.

*My statement may change after a couple years.
 

aigomorla

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No no no, the one you REALLY want is the one AFTER that.

*My statement may change after a couple years.

LOLOL

no... the next cpu's to follow IV... are the 10c/20t 30meg cache cpu's...

Or thats what ive been told...

That cpu should hold you off for god knows how long... unfortunately it will have a price tag near 1500 dollars.
 

lehtv

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IB . is even a bigger impact than SB . Increase all over clocking values min, of 500mhz. . I won't debate clock for clock gain again .

Ivy Bridge is just a die shrink. Sandy Bridge was a completely new architecture. Of course IB won't have as much impact.
 

notty22

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Overclockers look forward to every die shrink with excitement. At least, I sure do.
 

toyota

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Ivy Bridge is just a die shrink. Sandy Bridge was a completely new architecture. Of course IB won't have as much impact.
did you even read any of these links? IB looks to be way more than just a simple shrink. it looks to have many small improvements and also a small IPC increase. sure clock for clock it will not much faster at all but it will be way more efficient and can allow for higher overclocking.
 

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Ivy Bridge to be the first CPUs to hit 5GHz without putting the CPU at risk?

Sounds like an exciting CPU.
 

lehtv

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did you even read any of these links? IB looks to be way more than just a simple shrink. it looks to have many small improvements and also a small IPC increase. sure clock for clock it will not much faster at all but it will be way more efficient and can allow for higher overclocking.

My point was purely from the performance perspective. In that respect, i5-2500K was a much bigger jump over i5-750 than the i5 Ivy Bridge will be compared to 2500K. And this is because it's not a new CPU architecture, but a die shrink.

Whether other small improvements here and there might make it worth while for an i5 sandy bridge owner is another matter. And of course overclockers always jump on new hardware, but overclockers aren't cost-effective anyway.
 

Don Karnage

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Ivy Bridge to be the first CPUs to hit 5GHz without putting the CPU at risk?

Sounds like an exciting CPU.

If IB can do 5Ghz easily i wonder if Broadwell and 14nm will do 6Ghz


My point was purely from the performance perspective. In that respect, i5-2500K was a much bigger jump over i5-750 than the i5 Ivy Bridge will be compared to 2500K. And this is because it's not a new CPU architecture, but a die shrink.

I have to disagree. My 760 would do 4.3Ghz on a Maximus III and was a pretty amazing chip for the money.