Originally posted by: pontifex
Originally posted by: Zenoth
A modified S.T.A.L.K.E.R. is superior in my opinion (the ABC Mod and the A-Live Mod are both great examples). Although I still like Bioshock. In no way I thought the movement speed was "too fast". The only thing I thought was missing was a stealth element, I just believe that not being able to get any "silence" upgrades or Plasmids or anything like that forces the player into confrontations.
Technically speaking the game was built to be an action game and I am aware of that. As is, it couldn't support stealth properly, it isn't conceived for that. But I thought maybe if they could have worked around that a little more I would have liked it more, because frankly the security cameras are useless, I haven't been caught once because I hear them three rooms away and I know in advance that I got to be careful. If the cameras were silent and if they didn't emit a red light to tell you it's there 5 meters away then it might have been useful.
there were several stealth/silence plasmids/tonics. nothing that silenced weapons. but it silences your movement and one even made you invisible to enemies when you stoped walking/shooting after a few seconds.
Yes, true, but those weren't having their place in the game, in my opinion. The "camo" Plasmid is only active when standing still, but ironically the game forces you to press a key on your mouse that will "activate" your character because the developers made ammunition scarce and forces you to engage against Big Daddies, along with Splicers in many scripted events in all levels.
It's not like you do have the possibility to actually go across an entire level "unnoticed". In the way the game was made, that would be down right boring. Why stay silent and invisible when you lack ammo and need to kill that next Splicer to possibly loot something valuable/necessary out of it ? Why, when you are forced to confront and move ? Just like the cameras (which I'll repeat something about them here), a useless addition from the developers in terms of game-play, BUT it makes sense in terms of the story-line, because we all know that Andre Ryan (mostly) got his intelligence from the actual security system in Rapture to pursue his goal to be victorious against Fontaine in the "war" of the grand city.
Outside of scripted events I wasn't even caught ONCE, not even once by any of them "random" security cameras in the game simply because the developers did TWO things for me, to HELP me NOT getting caught. First being the actual camera rotating sound, which can be heard from, sometimes, a couple of rooms away, if not at least meters before you can have it on sight. And secondo, it emits a red light to a non-negligible distance, indicating not only of its actual presence but actually WHERE it's looking at. Wise ? No, not in terms of game-play. It might be more "filling" to be so, but it certainly doesn't help increasing the game's difficulty (because quite frankly it's one of the easiest games I've ever played in a decade as far as first-person-shooters go).
Some things in Bioshock were not implemented sufficiently enough for perhaps attain the desired game-play results from the developers and I still believe that "stealth" is one of those things (along with the "security system").
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