Bin Laden's burial at sea--why was it so important to adhere to Muslim funeral rites?

[Jhhnn]

Bin Laden was a pariah to muslim governments everywhere. The notion that any would have allowed burial of his remains on their territory is absurd. It'd be begging for abuse.

I suppose his remains could have been flown to Antarctica for earth burial, but even then somebodies would know where it was.

As for the muslim rites, there's no point in adding insult to injury- it just pisses people off unnecessarily. Burial at sea seems like a very well thought out split the difference approach.

As for the rest of it, there are troofers, birthers, and now corpsers...

 

[Zebo]

You can find a Muslim cleric ready to declare Disney Land an outrage. Bitching is a time honored tradition among Christian fundamentalists as well. So what.

Christian fundis don't have hit men, tortures and terrorists in employ like muslim clerics. Well least not since The Pear of Anguish and Pillory was stopped being used by the Church after reformation. Ever notice every Cleric has a Militia? Today they use power drills and electric shock.

 

[HAL9000]

Respect

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[WhipperSnapper]

Burial at Sea and within 24 hours, only serves to prevent a grave site Al-Quida supporters can rally around as a holy site.

Now that I think about it, perhaps we should have buried him in a public place in an area under an ally's control. We should then take a page out of the short story "The Marching Morons" and plant people in the Jihadist community to proclaim how great it is to visit the Osama holy grave site.

Then when anyone goes to visit, we rendition them, squeeze them for intelligence information, and seal their bodies in a pig blood barrel. Rinse, wash, repeat. That might be a great way to bring Al Queda and Islamicists out of the woodwork and further eliminate them.

Already many Muslim clerics have weighed in as outraged.

Bin Laden was a piece of horse manure! Why are they outraged? Perhaps the outrage is that we're not exterminating anyone who would be outraged by our treatment of Bin Laden.

We should set up some sort of a funeral procession with a fake Bin Laden body and kill everyone that comes to the funeral.

 

[Throckmorton]

BTW the funeral was performed by an imam. I hope the Muslim World realizes what we do even for our most hated enemies who are Muslim.

 

[Kadarin]

For as much as it would have been personally satisfying to hear that we desecrated his corpse with bacon, I think that the military and the government handled this matter in the best way possible.

 

[Lemon law]

Funny, I thought The Muslim World hates bin Laden and doesn't support terrorism. Suddenly they're all terrorist supporting jihadists like the rightwingers have been saying? Son of a bitch...

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As expected, Throckmortan has the understanding of a small child. Many Muslims opposed to Bin Laden can also become more US negative because of US insensitivity to Muslim burial customs.

But in only the minds of small children does there exist that binary belief, that you are all for us or all against us.

But the die is already cast for all time, Osama is dead and is buried at sea, how that plays out in the Muslim world is now what matters. Does it open new wounds or heal them, only later events can answer the question.

 

[wuliheron]

Christian fundis don't have hit men, tortures and terrorists in employ like muslim clerics. Well least not since The Pear of Anguish and Pillory was stopped being used by the Church after reformation. Ever notice every Cleric has a Militia? Today they use power drills and electric shock.

 

[theeedude]

Because we have a professional military in every sense of the word. They handled it very professionally, IMO.

 

[Zebo]

Now that I think about it, perhaps we should have buried him in a public place in an area under an ally's control. We should then take a page out of the short story "The Marching Morons" and plant people in the Jihadist community to proclaim how great it is to visit the Osama holy grave site.

Then when anyone goes to visit, we rendition them, squeeze them for intelligence information, and seal their bodies in a pig blood barrel. Rinse, wash, repeat. That might be a great way to bring Al Queda and Islamicists out of the woodwork and further eliminate them.



Bin Laden was a piece of horse manure! Why are they outraged? Perhaps the outrage is that we're not exterminating anyone who would be outraged by our treatment of Bin Laden.

We should set up some sort of a funeral procession with a fake Bin Laden body and kill everyone that comes to the funeral.

Somebodies been reading Jungle Patrol. It worked for Capt Rodgers where moro fundis ceased all activity in his sector and I think would work again and it is incumbent on us to do this. But war has not really started yet.

 

[Throckmorton]

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As expected, Throckmortan has the understanding of a small child. Many Muslims opposed to Bin Laden can also become more US negative because of US insensitivity to Muslim burial customs.

But in only the minds of small children does there exist that binary belief, that you are all for us or all against us.

But the die is already cast for all time, Osama is dead and is buried at sea, how that plays out in the Muslim world is now what matters. Does it open new wounds or heal them, only later events can answer the question.

We weren't insensitive to Muslim burial customs. He was buried at sea by an imam.

But he's not supposed to be a "true Muslim" anyway. Would Christians get upset if Reverend Phelps was killed and not given a proper Christian burial? That would hypocritical of them after claiming he's not a true Christian wouldn't it?

 

[boomerang]

The US claimed they made a gesture at trying to conform to Muslim tradition. If that isn't good enough for Muslims tough shit. Of course, if it makes you feel better I'm sure every Muslim and Imam would love nothing better then to tell you their feelings on the subject. Oh, I forgot, asking people about their feelings instead of jumping to conclusions isn't your strong suit.

So...how does that make you feel?

 

[palehorse]

Burying him on land would have given people a place to visit and remember the man. Burning the body would have been an insult to Islam. Feeding him to the sharks in the middle of nowhere and claiming they were trying to observe Islamic tradition took care of all the complications.

Winner!

 

[IronWing]

The decision to bury him at sea was pretty slick. The US can rightfully claim it honored Islamic practices while at the same time delivering a grave insult to Bin Laden's memory. Back in the good old days when the Ottoman Sultans were particularly annoyed with someone they would have them strangled and the body cast into the Bosporus. Dumping the corpse into the sea was considered a final humiliation.

 

[AyashiKaibutsu]

We weren't insensitive to Muslim burial customs. He was buried at sea by an imam.

But he's not supposed to be a "true Muslim" anyway. Would Christians get upset if Reverend Phelps was killed and not given a proper Christian burial? That would hypocritical of them after claiming he's not a true Christian wouldn't it?

Yea. You don't get to pick and choose who is part of your religion, and even not religious and not caring about my body after I'm dead I think peoples wishes in that regard should be reasonably upheld.

 

[wuliheron]

So...how does that make you feel?

It doesn't make a damn bit of difference to me. Now go ask the 1.4 billion Muslims you keep talking for.

 

[wuliheron]

The decision to bury him at sea was pretty slick. The US can rightfully claim it honored Islamic practices while at the same time delivering a grave insult to Bin Laden's memory. Back in the good old days when the Ottoman Sultans were particularly annoyed with someone they would have them strangled and the body cast into the Bosporus. Dumping the corpse into the sea was considered a final humiliation.

Its nice to see they've got all the details and nuances down after all the time and money they've spent on Islamic terrorists.

 

[CPA]

To many Muslims he is a modern Robin Hood or Jesse James who stood up to the evil west. The US wanted to erase his memory as thoroughly as possible from the Muslim world.

Burying him on land would have given people a place to visit and remember the man. Burning the body would have been an insult to Islam. Feeding him to the sharks in the middle of nowhere and claiming they were trying to observe Islamic tradition took care of all the complications.

This, and it was the only reason.

 

[superccs]

Because they weren't quick thinking enough to stuff a rocket up his ass and send him to the moon Roadrunner style...

 

[WhipperSnapper]

Somebodies been reading Jungle Patrol. It worked for Capt Rodgers where moro fundis ceased all activity in his sector and I think would work again and it is incumbent on us to do this. But war has not really started yet.

Actually, I've never heard of that book. I have had this sort of strategy in mind for years (mostly to be used against Palestinians who attend funerals for suicide bombers).

 

[Svnla]

I don't remember any of the INNOCENT 2K plus people at Ground Zero had any proper burial processes. Many of their bodies never found.

<<---- was at Ground Zero a few days ago.

 

[AyashiKaibutsu]

I don't remember any of the INNOCENT 2K plus people at Ground Zero had any proper burial processes. Many of their bodies never found.

<<---- was at Ground Zero a few days ago.

Part of being civilized is maintaining your decency even in the face of barbarians, and I'm sure if Osama was splattered across a wall from a 500lb bomb he wouldn't have gotten a burial either.

 

[umbrella39]

A burial at sea assures no place for mourners to gather and turn into a shrine.

This is why it was done. I'm sure someone already stated this.

 

[Zorkorist]

It dilutes where mourners can come, and worship.

But the Arabian Sea is a pretty big target.

-John

 

[JimW1949]

Maybe I am just conspiracy minded, but I have to wonder whether he was killed on Sunday, or if he was really killed several years ago. Nobody has seen him since about 2001 and the audio/video tapes of him which surfaced have left a lot of people with the impression they were fake. I have no way of knowing one way or the other, I just wonder about it at times.