Bin Laden threatens to have Bush assassinated at G-8 summit meeting in Italy

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Pabster

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Oh, and another thing.

The U.S.A. is still the greatest country on earth. 225 years of Democracy and we're still standing. Other countries are either quasi-Democratic (Russia) or never will have the chance (Cuba).

And to echo the sentiments of a few others (many others, actually) -- it also sickens me to see people responding with "Good Riddance Bush" or similiar. You're talking about the President of the United States, not David Duke. Most likely you same people have had family involved somewhere along the line with various engagements to protect this great land, and you're doing them all a disservice.

/rant off
 

SCUBA

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And how would any country in the world benefit by making african countries more poor?

if russia was rich amarica wouldnt been the only power on earth and it would think twice before doing any move but when countries get more poor but the us get richer it can force its opinion even on its allies like westeurpe and the best example that the us is afraid from the upcoming eurpean army BUSH says its waste of monay but its not also the us starwars project none of the us allies have agreed ecsept spain and israle but the us dosnt give a fu*k coz no one can say no

the same thing goes on africa coz if there were strong african countries they will be able to say no to amarica but the us dosnt wont that it wonts to rule the world i didnt say that is wrong coz every one wonts that i just dont wont u 67GT500 to say that the us never do any thing wrong and that is an angle
 

67gt500

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if russia was rich amarica wouldnt been the only power on earth and it would think twice before doing any move

......this is already the case Scuba. China and Russia are two other powers that shouldn't be messed with right now. Comparing Russia to Uganda is a stretch.

but when countries get more poor but the us get richer it can force its opinion even on its allies like westeurpe and the best example that the us is afraid from the upcoming eurpean army

The US is by no means afraid of a european army. If you could defend any of this I'd like to see it done.

BUSH says its waste of monay but its not also the us starwars project none of the us allies have agreed ecsept spain and israle but the us dosnt give a fu*k coz no one can say no

Star wars was reagan's proposal. This is a proposal to DEVELOP a technology to defend against rogue missiles. This isn't a technology to defend against 2000 nukes coming from russia.


the same thing goes on africa coz if there were strong african countries they will be able to say no to amarica but the us dosnt wont that it wonts to rule the world i didnt say that is wrong coz every one wonts that i just dont wont u 67GT500 to say that the us never do any thing wrong and that is an angle

The only reason I continue replying to you and being nice is because you have some interesting points. But to claim that America is attempting to make african nations poorer by sending billions in aid over the years because we fear an african uprising is just plain nuts.

If we simply didn't care we wouldn't be involved anywhere. I don't know which america you are talking about but it certainly isn't the one I'm a part of.
 

Phokus

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Is it me or is 67gt500 a really militant troll? I really don't know why the mods are allowing ignoramuses like him to start flame wars.
 

Phokus

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Oh and i've also noticed that 67gt500 has absolutely no life. Did you get senior status in, what, 5 days or less?
 

zzzz

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Isn't it ironic that US helped Taliban in their war against Russia?
Also US used to help pakistan a lot when Afaganistan was occupied by the Russians.
 

67gt500

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Is it me or is 67gt500 a really militant troll? I really don't know why the mods are allowing ignoramuses like him to start flame wars.

where was I trolling?


Oh and i've also noticed that 67gt500 has absolutely no life. Did you get senior status in, what, 5 days or less?




wow. I'm the oen starting flame wars.
 

Rectalfier

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Rogue,

You clearly said that people should have their rights taken away for some of the things people said here. You probably believe in the death penalty too. You can worship the President of the United States as much as you want, but every American has the right to speak up against him as well. Not everyone in the US voted for that beady eyed confused 4 year old you call Commander in Cheif. It takes action to earn respect, not a badge, certificate or title. I have no respect for your President, and if I were American I still wouldn't. If you do respect him for what he has done rather than his title, then we differ greatly in personal view, and it would be better not to talk to each other. Have a nice life.
 

Rectalfier

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67gt500

Thanks for telling me what us Canadians think of Americans, sheeesh. It is a sad fact how closed your mind is, considering that you think it is so open. Where did you get this information of how the world views the US? Have you ever left the US? Have you been to Africa to personally help starving children. Do you qualify for being a good person because you have watched many Unicef commercials? The fact is that when food and drugs get to africa they are confiscated by warlords, which throw the country into further turmoil. I am sure you will reply to me with some really ignorant garbage, so I don't know why I bother.
 

67gt500

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well considering i've been to victoria and vancouver numerous times, been throughout western europe and visited most significant portions of asia I think I have a moderate understanding as to the general consensus, yes. Also considering I'm almost finished with a poly sci major which has gotten me into foreign governmental studies I've probably got a greater grasp of hte world around us than you do.

If you are going to imply that most Canadians hate america you are just wrong. Absolutely wrong. You represent a fraction of your country.. and a not so happy fraction, I might add.

edit: and on a charitable level the United States gives more in aid to poverish nations than canada does.

But this is expected isn't it? Considering we have around 10 times the production in this country as Canada.

 

Rectalfier

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Ahh, you also have ten times the population, but you should know this since you are a poly sci major. If you think reading a book, and having experience with other people soley from an American standpoint is good enough to make huge generalizations, that is your choice. I have actually lived in other countries aside from many countries I have visited. You are trying to argue with me as if I am one sided, this is where you will fail.

You are correct that much of the world respects america for the things you have stated, I do as well. When I say something bad about America or Americans, most Americans tends to think I am Anti-American, that is not the case. In this case you consider me Anti-American, this is your choice and you can do as you wish. My main gripe with you and many Americans is that you are hugely arrogant. By telling me how myself and fellow Canadians feel about America is hugely flawed and arrogant in many respects. That is like me telling you how Americans feel about Canada and Canadians, you would not be impressed, and I am not so full of myself to do such a thing. However, I can tell you one thing is for sure, this type of arrogance is what people around the world dislike about many Americans.
 

Dhruv

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<< Time to find out which country the dirtbag Bin Laden is hiding in and bomb it back to the stone age. Of course the country he's hiding in probably isn't that far removed from the stone age...ahh screw it....just flatten wherever he is. >>



... Spoken like your'e average American.

He is in Afghanistan by the way. That may help.
 

Dhruv

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<< Interestingly enough,


Afghanistans government is only recognized by Pakistan and Saudi Arabia. If the US wanted to pick a fight, no one would mind. Trust me.


Russia is still backing the former government in the north eastern part of Afghanistan. They are dead set opposed to the Taliban. You could even see a bunch of nations ganging up on Afghanistan, if push came to shove.


No, Afghanistan would be best to mind its own business, and keep Bin Laden under close wraps.


The only reason the Taliban exists today is that to forcibly remove them would cost too much in material and lives. But give a nation like the US a reason to, and Afghanistan would have a new government in less than 4 months.

Bin Laden has no where to go either. If he returns to any arab nation, other than perhaps pakistan, he faces the death penalty.

He is pushing his luck... But he is completely ignorant of the West, and what an angry US could and would do.

His ignorance is going to kill him.
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Don't forget UAE also recognizes Taliban. Of course the UAE is about 50% composed of Indians and Pakistanis.

The Taliban got its legitimacy and weapons from the U.S. to fight the Soviet in the 80's. Looks like the monster they created is now a thorn in the U.S.'s side. U.S. never learns.... look at Saddam, same shiet.


I disagree that the U.S. would be able to put in a new govt. within 4 months. Right now the only powerful internal opposition is Afghanistan is coming form anti-Taliban Masood forces. Unfortunately, Masood and other non Sunni muslims have not been very succesful in going against the Taliban. I hate the Taliban, but bombing Afghanistan or trying to setup a new government there in a matter of months is American thinking, which is by far too simplisitic. Religion must be taken into account, diversity in the region, economic, social problems, agriculture (Afghanistan is very arid, desert climate, hard to grow crops w/o proper infrastructure and irrigation which they don't have). Unlike most other nations, who have had the luxury to be able to develop and improve their internal situations, for the past 20 years Afghanistan has been a nation at war, first with Soviets, then internal war between opposing forces. Its a country with a lot of fatherless children. A long term, more reliable solution is a better solution. If you think Osama is a main issue that Afghanistan has to deal with or even cares about you are completely wrong. They have so many other problems to worry about. I think personally, its just a political move by the Taliban to stick their tongue out at the West. Same thing happened with the destruction of the Baniyan Buddha statues a few months back. They knew that westerners put great value in things of the past, and many institutions such as NY metrop. museum, UNESCO, etc gave financial incentives for the Taliban to not blow them up. that failied however. I think the ppl of Afghanistan feel let down that they fought and kicked the Soviets ass back in the 80's (with u.s. aid), and the U.S. never fulfilled its promises of helping the country do develop itself economically. what good are ancient statues to a people that cannot even feed themselves. The answer that the Taliban gave for bombing the statues was b.s. the claim how idols are not sacred to islam. While Islam denounces the use of Idol worship, it also says that they should not destroy other religions.
 

Shuxclams

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Maybe the prophecy comes true.......... every &quot;0&quot; year president.. ;) OMG then Cheney and the pacemaker will be president!?!?









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