Bin Laden Targeting Airplanes... easier way to bring them down?

jehh

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Ok, here is a dumb question...

If Bin Laden wants to bring down some more airplanes, and can no longer get people on board to hijack them, why not just bring over some of the left over Stinger missiles that we gave him and just shoot the planes down... Hit them as they are taking off and full of fuel, the fireball would be impressive...

It would also make putting sky marshals on planes totally useless and make even more people scared to fly...

Now I do understand getting them into the US would be hard, but that is just shipping...

Just an idea...

Jason
 

JoPalm

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You trying to give them ideas? What if they were looking at this right now....something to think about.
 

Moonbeam

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It would be impossible to get them into the country, unless, unless, of course, they hid them inside of drugs.
 

jehh

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<< remember someone was trying to fly them into something, not ram them into the ground. >>



True, but he did that already...

Why not follow it up with a second strike so people don't start to feel safe again...

The damage done by the first attack was bad, but not so bad that it won't be repaired...

The fear it puts into people is far more of a problem than the loss of two buildings and 7,000 people, however regretable those losses are...

Since he has about zero chance of hijacking more airliners, and since so many people keep talking about putting sky marshals on the planes "to make us safe", this would punch a hole in that safty feeling...

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jehh

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<< Ok, here is a dumb question... >>

No argument here ;)
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Hey, that was supposed to be funny... It actually is a good question...

Everyone seems to think that he will only try to hijack airliners...

How about this (suggested by my Mom), why not put some explosives on a boat, sail down the Colorado river, and blow up the Hoover Dam and flood Las Vegas...

What else could he do totally unrelated to hijacking, that we might not be securing...

Just food for thought, nothing else...

Jason
 

jehh

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<< You trying to give them ideas? What if they were looking at this right now....something to think about. >>



It is unlikely that I will think of something that he has not thought about...

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reitz

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<< It is unlikely that I will think of something that he has not thought about... >>

It's even more unlikely that Bin Laden is reading through the AT forums, looking for ideas ;)
 

jehh

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<< It is unlikely that I will think of something that he has not thought about... >>

It's even more unlikely that Bin Laden is reading through the AT forums, looking for ideas ;)
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Bwahahahahaha

LOL

Yea, that is true...

 

veryape

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His objective is massive loss of life,not downing a plane with a couple hundred people. Even if it was possible it would be a waste of time for him to plan. He is on to "bigger and better things."
 

jehh

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<< His objective is massive loss of life,not downing a plane with a couple hundred people. Even if it was possible it would be a waste of time for him to plan. He is on to "bigger and better things." >>



No, I'm afraid you're mistaken...

His goal is to end our way of life...

One way to do that is to make people afraid to fly... A large chunk of our econemy runs though our airport system...

There are not many targets he can hit that will do more damage than he has already done, not with standard weapons anyway. It would be easier to get Stinger missiles in the US than it would a nuclear weapon I'm thinking...

And his odds of getting ahold of more airplanes is very low...

I'm open to other ideas however... :)

Jason
 

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<< It would be impossible to get them into the country, unless, unless, of course, they hid them inside of drugs. >>




LOL. :)
 

tcsenter

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<< How about this (suggested by my Mom), why not put some explosives on a boat, sail down the Colorado river, and blow up the Hoover Dam and flood Las Vegas >>

Well, for one, Las Vegas is North-West of Hoover Dam, and its nowhere near the Colorado River. ;)

Further, if you've ever been down the Colorado south of the dam, its at the bottom of a deep canyon, where there are no towns immediately along its banks, only some parks and camp grounds. Laughlin is rather close to the water, but its probably 70 miles down-river from Hoover Dam, giving plenty of time for evacuation. Davis Dam is 2 miles North of Laughlin, and it would undoubtedly be opened to drain Lake Mohave in order to give the wave of water something to 'fill' before reaching Laughlin. It would be spectacular, nonetheless, but result in minimal loss of life.

As for Stingers, that has always been considered a threat. There will undoubtedly be more attempted attacks, so we'll have to wait and see what Osama and his pals are cooking-up.

Edited for a spelling mistake


 

jehh

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<< How about this (suggested by my Mom), why not put some explosives on a boat, sail down the Colorado river, and blow up the Hoover Dam and flood Las Vegas >>

Well, for one, Las Vegas is North-West of Hoover Dam, and its nowhere near the Colorado River. ;)

Further, if you've ever been down the Colorado south of the dam, its at the bottom of a deep canyon, where there are no towns immediately along its banks, only some parks and camp grounds. Laughlin is rather close to the water, but its probably 70 miles down-river from Hoover Dam, giving plenty of time for evacuation. Davis Dam is 2 miles North of Laughlin, and it would undoubtedly be opened to drain Lake Mohave in order to give the wave of water something to 'fill' before reaching Laughlin. It would be spactacular, nonetheless, but result in minimal loss of life.

As for Stingers, that has always been considered a threat. There will undoubtedly be more attempted attacks, so we'll have to wait and see what Osama and his pals are cooking-up.
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I wasn't aware of that...

In any case, the loss of power generation would perhaps hurt a bit, and as you say, it would be impressive... :)

Jason
 

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<< It's even more unlikely that Bin Laden is reading through the AT forums, looking for ideas >>


I'm sure Bin Laden relies on several sources for his "devious" ideas. Some could be reading this forum. Remember, quite a few of the terrorists tried to live what appeared to be normal lives in America up until they did their bad deed - this also included Internet access.
 

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I would think that his next target is not going to be an airplane, unless perhaps said airplane is a F-16 he sees over his head.
 

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Nothing short of a direct hit with a nuclear device will bring down the engeneering marvel that is the Hoover Dam.

Why are you people fantizing ways for terrorists to harm the US?


whose side are you on, anyways?:disgust:
 

glenn1

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<< Nothing short of a direct hit with a nuclear device will bring down the engeneering marvel that is the Hoover Dam. >>



No kidding. Trying to take down Hoover Dam with a boat filled with conventional explosives, would be like trying to take down the Pyramids with bottle rocket.
 

AnitaPeterson

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You realize that you don't actually need a Stinger to bring down a plane?

It's enough to use something called "EMP gun". Basically, a simple antenna and a lot of electromagnetic interference (coming from a big battery or generator) to wreck the navigational systems in the cockpit.

Just park the van outside the airport, by the runway and...
 

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<< His objective is massive loss of life,not downing a plane with a couple hundred people. Even if it was possible it would be a waste of time for him to plan. He is on to "bigger and better things." >>

No, I'm afraid you're mistaken... His goal is to end our way of life... One way to do that is to make people afraid to fly... A large chunk of our econemy runs though our airport system... There are not many targets he can hit that will do more damage than he has already done, not with standard weapons anyway. It would be easier to get Stinger missiles in the US than it would a nuclear weapon I'm thinking... And his odds of getting ahold of more airplanes is very low... I'm open to other ideas however... :) Jason
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I guess I should have made it clear in my post that his objective is massive loss of American life. I do not believe he cares about making people afraid to fly,he has already unwittinglly done that. What I think he really wants is for the US to retalliate.

Osama bin Laden wants to go to war with us and he really believes he can win. Yes,he does want to bring our economy to its knees but that is not his main objective,its not even in the top five of his list of objectives i'm sure.

Its not about making people afraid to fly,its about bringing us down. He wants to bring us down economically,religiously,militarily,you name it he wants to hit us there.

He already has pockets of terrrorists in the statesthat are planning or have already planned attacks on us and are waiting patiently to carry them out. I highly doubt he will use airplanes and I doubt he ever planned to after the first wave of attacks. There is no need to as there are numerous other ways to carry them out,and many other ways are much more simple and require less planning and funding. I think the first attack was to get our attention,and now that he has it he does not need to go so big. He can stage small attacks,since what are we going to do anyway? He has no targets for us to go after. He is counting on that fact. They really have nothing to lose,including life itself.Small attacks are much easier to pull off. Large full scale attacks will not be so easy since the 11th of September. For Osama small attacks are the way to go.

Anyhow,i'm veering way off topic. All i'm sayng is that I do not think he will go after planes again. At least not jetliners,maybe cropdusters but definitely not jetliners. I hope he succeeds at nothing.

I think we need to go after the whole Afghanistan area. Its sad that there will be civilian life lost,but there were civilians in the World Trade Towers who had no choice to leave like many Afghans are now doing. They are fleeing Afghanistan. We did not have that choice. The Taliban must be taken down at any cost.
 

jehh

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Sigh...

Bin Laden lacks the ability to bring us down. Only in his wet dreams can he imagine a way to destroy us...

All the damage caused, and the loss of life, however regretable, means nothing... One needs real power and force to destroy another country, destroying a few buildings won't do it...

The most he can do is go down in the anals of history as a pain in the butt, and that is about it...

Jason