Billionaire Threatens Democratic Party

bshole

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This is about as stone cold as you can get. This wealthy fucker has the balls to say that if the Democratic Party mentions the wealthy in a negative way again he will cut off all funding. My response, go fuck yourself. People like you are a virus, You are the worst humans in America and you have hollowed us out with your filthy politician buying money. Why do you get to talk personally with our leaders you piece of shit?

“I’ve talked to [Senate Minority Leader Chuck] Schumer, I’ve talked to [Senator Ron] Wyden, I’ve talked to [House Minority Leader Nancy] Pelosi, and I said, ‘If you use the term billionaires again, I’m done,’”
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“We all want to do well. And we should be the party of doing well. We should be a party of business and leadership.”
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“It is very, very disturbing when I hear the ‘millionaire’ and ‘billionaire’ word and I’ve told them to stop it, knock it off, I’ve made it very clear, I’ll cut your money off and others will do the same. We’ve had enough.”
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“It’s fractured, it’s broken. We need a new brand,”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ctluj7jbbmE
 

tweaker2

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I guess he couldn't discern that all of the bashing that the very wealthy Repub donors get from the Dems didn't include him.

What is that, some kind of misplaced guilt complex gone wild or something?

He's barking up the wrong tree. He should be yelling at those fellow billionaires of his who are betting their money on the folks he is betting against.

He should realize that his fellow billionaires are the enemy and not the working class folks who rail against the inordinate influence the very wealthy have over our politicians. If he is truly a Dem liberal at heart, then wouldn't it be quite natural for him to realize that the very wealthy folks the Dems are demonizing are specifically those that support the class warfare that they, through the GOP, are waging against the common folk who actually work for a living and not himself?

Not sure what's with this guy.
 

woolfe9998

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F**k him. We don't need or want his money in our political system. The irony is that this is exactly why dems keep talking about "millionaires and billionaires." Because they use their money for political influence to urge policies which line their pockets. His "threat" just proves the point.
 

Vic

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Billionaires aren't a monolithic group. Even today, we still have Carnegies and Goulds. Don't hate the Carnegies because of the Goulds.
 

senseamp

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If you want Socialism, you have to let Capitalism do its thing for now, and see where we end up with automation. It may well be that Socialism is the end stage of automated Capitalism. But if you try to prematurely aim directly for Socialism, you end up like Venezuela. Timing is important.
 

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Money talks, Bullshit walks

and the Bullshit being how the Democrats are for the people until their gravy train is threatened.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/how-democrats-lost-union-workers_us_58cc0aede4b0ec9d29dbb226

"The Republicans created Trump, he’s theirs; but too many Democrats built the vacuum that Trump filled."
If you want Socialism, you have to let Capitalism do its thing for now, and see where we end up with automation. It may well be that Socialism is the end stage of automated Capitalism. But if you try to prematurely aim directly for Socialism, you end up like Venezuela. Timing is important.

That is bullshit koolaid propaganda you are parroting there, the reason countries like Venezuela as well as other Latin American countries have the problems they do is because of corruption, not socialism or capitalism.

https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2016/06/corruption-in-latin-america/
It’s been a challenging couple of years for the international community. A stagnant global economy, tumbling commodity prices, rising populism, ongoing conflicts.

But when Latin American leaders were asked to name the biggest challenge in their region for 2015, the majority of them pointed to something else: corruption.



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As for that future automation bogey man that you are all waiting for like the those that waited for the end of the world in 2012, it is just a clever farce to keep your eyes off the present and past corporate real bogeyman that have eroded the middle class and the standard of living through their free trade trickle down economic policies as well as trillion dollar endless wars that have fattened the billionaires pockets while you all fight among yourselves over gay wedding cakes and bathrooms.
 
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Perknose

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Is this youtube vid a joke? Six and one-half minutes in and I still don't that bloat-faced, supposed billionaire's name. The interview seems like a put on.

The supposed billionaire, supposed Democrat says, "The Democratic Party is too far left?" Say WHAT? Nobody on the left that I can possibly think of thinks the present Democratic Party is too far left! Most don't think it's left at all.

I can only wish the Dems were a true party of the left, but, aside from Bernie and a (very) few others, they don't have the balls to stand up for their historic "party of the people" principles. Most anyone looking clearly would say they're more tweedle dum to the Repubs tweedle-dee . . . just another conglomeration of establishment corporate suck ups.

Something is really off about this entire video. And just who the hell IS Bloaty McBloatface, anyway? He looks to me like a guy who would suck the sweat off of Trump's balls and beg for more.
 
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Perknose

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Also, geez, am I the only one who can't stand these no-name youtube talking heads pontificating into the camera from their home studio set-ups? If I want the untutored opinion of some random yammering dweeb, I'll go to Arbys and start a political argument in the ordering line.
 

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Also, geez, am I the only one who can't stand these no-name youtube talking heads pontificating into the camera from their home studio set-ups? If I want the untutored opinion of some random yammering dweeb, I'll go to Arbys and start a political argument in the ordering line.

https://www.patreon.com/seculartalk

Seems like he makes good money doing that, people are paying him $17k+/month just on Patreon alone, not counting Amazon affiliate revenue or Youtube ad revenue. Plenty of people can't stand youtubers but a lot of them who've found a niche seem to make a good living off of it.
 

Jaskalas

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I do not fight to say "FU" to anyone. Attacking others is not productive, it is not unifying, and it does not feed, shelter, and provide for our people. The campaign for Basic Income and Medicare needs to transcend such petty squabbles.

If someone wants to oppose the very safety nets that will save Capitalism from implosion, then let them step forward by name and dare to publicly utter whatever stupidity floats their boat. I will gladly demonstrate the masses of poor and hungry ready with pitch forks. Ready to take what they need, and I will ask "how would you like this revolution to go?" You can provide us the social safety nets we need, or you can watch all that wealth burn down around you.
 
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https://www.patreon.com/seculartalk

Seems like he makes good money doing that, people are paying him $17k+/month just on Patreon alone, not counting Amazon affiliate revenue or Youtube ad revenue. Plenty of people can't stand youtubers but a lot of them who've found a niche seem to make a good living off of it.
He annoys me. And I agree with his political stance! But, honestly, whose life is so bereft of actual, real-life friends that they need to donate money to Kyle Kulinsky so Kyle can tell them his political opinions on youtube? This is the very definition of "lame." :(
 
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Wait, I thought we already had a party that catered to billionaires' interests. Why do *they* need 2 parties?

Each party just takes a different industry.

Repubs cater to Oil/Gas... and I guess agriculture.

Libs cater to hollywood, media moguls, and healthcare...
 
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https://www.patreon.com/seculartalk

Seems like he makes good money doing that, people are paying him $17k+/month just on Patreon alone, not counting Amazon affiliate revenue or Youtube ad revenue. Plenty of people can't stand youtubers but a lot of them who've found a niche seem to make a good living off of it.


Hes not the only one. Any big-name youtubers with 1M+ subscribers are very likely to have anywhere from $10-25k in MONTHLY patreon income. It blows my mind, but then I come back to reality and say "A fool and their money are soon parted"
 
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Also, geez, am I the only one who can't stand these no-name youtube talking heads pontificating into the camera from their home studio set-ups? If I want the untutored opinion of some random yammering dweeb, I'll go to Arbys and start a political argument in the ordering line.

I agree unless it's a shirtless guy wearing a leather jacket with a weird flag behind him. Then it's serious stuff
 
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bshole

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Also, geez, am I the only one who can't stand these no-name youtube talking heads pontificating into the camera from their home studio set-ups? If I want the untutored opinion of some random yammering dweeb, I'll go to Arbys and start a political argument in the ordering line.

No you are not. Most old people aren't into the youtube thing. Young people on the other hand love it.

Sites like Kyle's are about the only outlets around that will talk in depth about the influence of money in politics. He highlights the important news that the mainstream media doesn't give a shit about.

Who was the donor???? Stephen Cloobeck

There’ve been a lot of important revelations in the last week, but one of the most significant has gone obscenely under-reported in the shuffle.

In a recent interview with MSNBC’s Stephanie Ruhle, timeshare tycoon and top Democratic party donor Stephen Cloobeck told the world that he was outraged at how Democrats have been treating the one percent, and that he has personally ordered Dem leaders to espouse a platform that is more warm and accommodating to the donor class.
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Cloobeck then went on to assert that the Democratic party needs a “new brand”, not popular socialist agendas like universal healthcare, but rather a focus on tax reform and infrastructure instead.

https://medium.com/@caityjohnstone/...o-adopt-pro-billionaire-platform-911c92a6116b

It strikes me as odd that donors threatening the Democratic party doesn't do anything for you. This is where the war is. With regards to economic policy, this donor wants what the Republicans want and what the voters do not. Is the Democratic party there to represent the middle and working classes or to represent the upper one percent? Obviously this does not matter to you. For me and millions like me, this is one of the most critical issues that America has ever faced.
 
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