Bill would mandate nicer term for illegals

[sdifox]

Originally posted by: tk149
I wish they'd pass a bill banning stupid politicians. Excuse me, mentally-challenged politicians.

I contest the inclusion of the word mentally. That would imply having a mind. Just "Challenged Politicians" would do.

 

[FoBoT]

round them up and ship them out of here

 

[OutHouse]

1984

new speak = new thought

 

[JulesMaximus]

You know what really pisses me off is that we can't seem to enforce our own laws or borders without a bunch of damned militant fvcks protesting or flexing some political muscle. It's no wonder there is hatred...

I don't despise people for wanting to leave Mexico, hell, if I lived there I'd want to leave too, but to expect the US to grant them amnesty from our laws is ridiculous.

You want to know how to stop illegal immigration? Start enforcing our laws by prosecuting those who hire illegal aliens and pay them under the table. Then continue it by enforcing our borders.

 

[everman]

newspeak ftw!

 

[Linflas]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
You know what really pisses me off is that we can't seem to enforce our own laws or borders without a bunch of damned militant fvcks protesting or flexing some political muscle. It's no wonder there is hatred...

I don't despise people for wanting to leave Mexico, hell, if I lived there I'd want to leave too, but to expect the US to grant them amnesty from our laws is ridiculous.

You want to know how to stop illegal immigration? Start enforcing our laws by prosecuting those who hire illegal aliens and pay them under the table. Then continue it by enforcing our borders.

Get out of here, this is much too well thought out and reasonable for ATOT.

 

[OutHouse]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
You know what really pisses me off is that we can't seem to enforce our own laws or borders without a bunch of damned militant fvcks protesting or flexing some political muscle. It's no wonder there is hatred...

I don't despise people for wanting to leave Mexico, hell, if I lived there I'd want to leave too, but to expect the US to grant them amnesty from our laws is ridiculous.

You want to know how to stop illegal immigration? Start enforcing our laws by prosecuting those who hire illegal aliens and pay them under the table. Then continue it by enforcing our borders.

10/10

be prepared, when i speak like this in here im labeled a racist. :roll:

 

[foghorn67]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
You know what really pisses me off is that we can't seem to enforce our own laws or borders without a bunch of damned militant fvcks protesting or flexing some political muscle. It's no wonder there is hatred...

I don't despise people for wanting to leave Mexico, hell, if I lived there I'd want to leave too, but to expect the US to grant them amnesty from our laws is ridiculous.

You want to know how to stop illegal immigration? Start enforcing our laws by prosecuting those who hire illegal aliens and pay them under the table. Then continue it by enforcing our borders.

:thumbsup:

 

[nakedfrog]

Originally posted by: purbeast0
Sure some illegals are lazy, but the majority of them are hard ass workers who will do the nitty gritty down and dirty work for enough money to just get them some food. I've been to a third world country and I have been in the rural areas. My girlfriend is from Nicaragua and I went there last year and I can tell you, the people who are leaving their country are leaving to escape the tough living conditions of their home country.

Their countries will never get any better if their solution is to just leave.
And the USA can't sustain it's own growth plus the influx of illegals indefinitely. What then?

 

[SparkyJJO]

Originally posted by: foghorn67

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
You know what really pisses me off is that we can't seem to enforce our own laws or borders without a bunch of damned militant fvcks protesting or flexing some political muscle. It's no wonder there is hatred...

I don't despise people for wanting to leave Mexico, hell, if I lived there I'd want to leave too, but to expect the US to grant them amnesty from our laws is ridiculous.

You want to know how to stop illegal immigration? Start enforcing our laws by prosecuting those who hire illegal aliens and pay them under the table. Then continue it by enforcing our borders.

:thumbsup:

:thumbsup::thumbsup:

 

[0roo0roo]

Originally posted by: Mo0o

Originally posted by: purbeast0

Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski

Originally posted by: mercanucaribe

Originally posted by: giantpinkbunnyhead
Honestly, nothing out of Florida surprises me anymore.

But still, it's a bunch of B.S. I will continue to call them illegal aliens, or illegals, or wetbacks, or whatever comes to mind. I owe them no courtesies and they deserve none.

That's a really disturbing attitude to take toward people who are trying to escape poverty in the only way possible, illegally.

I have a feeling most of you have no idea what legal immigration involves. It takes years to get a green card and during that time, you can't work with just a Visa and you can't leave the country. If you are one of the few who can "take advantage" of this process, you probably work illegally because otherwise you will starve. What do you think of those people?

It's disgusting how much hate there is for illegal immigrants, because they're illegal. You know what else is illegal? Piracy, and 90% of ATOT members are doing it at this very moment.

They are escaping poverty and moving into poverty??? I don't know many ILLEGAL ALIENS that moved in with their aunti and uncle in Bel Air. The problem is they are lazy and can do the same amount of work they were doing in Mexico, except here they can milk the system and get a lot more, like free health care and what are the consiquences if they are caught? They get deported just to come right back over the next night.
I say round them up and start randomly shooting some of them, that will make them think twice about coming back.

Dude you really are fvcking clueless.

You are calling illegal workers here lazy? When they will do work here in the states for a fraction of what an american citizen would get paid to do the same thing? You call them lazy because they are taking jobs that Americans are too lazy to do for the money offered? Get the fvck out of here ...

Sure some illegals are lazy, but the majority of them are hard ass workers who will do the nitty gritty down and dirty work for enough money to just get them some food. I've been to a third world country and I have been in the rural areas. My girlfriend is from Nicaragua and I went there last year and I can tell you, the people who are leaving their country are leaving to escape the tough living conditions of their home country.

Some of her cousins are teachers over there, and they make $1200/yr ... $1200/yr. Most people on this forum make more than that ... after taxes ... in one pay check. Sure they don't have as much mortgage or whatever to pay, but that kind of money is just enough to get by with. We constantly send them our old clothing and stuff so they don't have to buy more.

I just strongly disagree with you when you say illegals are "lazy" when in fact, they are probably harder workers than the majority of low income Americans. If it weren't for my girlfriend's mom coming over here illegally, I wouldn't even have met her. She came here with nothing and was abused/raped on the way over here, then after 4 years of hard working she had enough $$ to pay for her children to come over here.

Agreed. Most illegals work longer hours for lesser pay because they can't negotiate with employers. Plus many pay taxes and such but never draw frolm welfare or SS because they're afraid of being in the system

in other words they distort and devalue the labor market. of course americans won't do those jobs at those wages. its called a free market, but it should work within limits, after all we don't let children work for one. its not a race to the bottom. those jobs, the employers should have to bid up their wages until americans do the work, or find a legal means of importing workers. the current situation is nonsense, and won't get fixed until the stream of illegals is stopped and the pressure starts mounting.

as for taxes, all the taxes they pay into ss can't even pay for californias increased education budget from illegals. you dont get high taxes from low wages, they are still a net drain on the economy.

the supporters of illegals are mostly white liberals with jobs that aren't threatened at all by illegals, which is rather convenient. oddly enough they are also sh*tting on the people they claim to fight for, the poor by letting in unfair competition to drive their already pathetic wages down even further. great stuff.

 

[Fenixgoon]

Originally posted by: SparkyJJO

Originally posted by: foghorn67

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
You know what really pisses me off is that we can't seem to enforce our own laws or borders without a bunch of damned militant fvcks protesting or flexing some political muscle. It's no wonder there is hatred...

I don't despise people for wanting to leave Mexico, hell, if I lived there I'd want to leave too, but to expect the US to grant them amnesty from our laws is ridiculous.

You want to know how to stop illegal immigration? Start enforcing our laws by prosecuting those who hire illegal aliens and pay them under the table. Then continue it by enforcing our borders.

:thumbsup:

:thumbsup::thumbsup:

:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

 

[waggy]

the thing that amazes me is groups like the ACLU will sue the US goverment for attempting to secure the boarder. And the fact we can't use the US military to do it. It seems to me that would be part of the job the US military has.

 

[Jeff7]

Originally posted by: ElFenix
that guy doesn't know what the term alien means

The term truly is alien to him.


They immigrated here illegally. They are alien to this country.

Illegal alien, illegal immigrant, whatever. Say it that way to ensure that its meaning sticks. They are not here legally. They have broken our immigration laws, plain and simple. If they start paying taxes and come into our legal system the right way, they're welcome here. Immigrants are what made this country what it is today.

If illegals are going to get all this government protection, I'll renounce my citizenship, become a citizen of another country, and move back here illegally. No taxes, free government aid, politicians kissing up to me - sounds like a pretty good deal.